Estimated Dates of the Events of the 1 Year Great Tribulation of the Earth

[PennEd]

By their fruits you will know them said the Messiah. A true believer of God will abound in good works. A false believer of God will have no good works, which is most of you if not all of you, because not only do you people discard the Torah that commands us to do good works, but you people think doing good works is optional and not mandatory. So the only imposters of the truth are actually you.

This is where you have fallen. Works are not fruit. Works happen as a RESULT of fruit.
This is the fruit we have, and it's the Spirit that prunes and trims and works in us to bring this fruit out.
NOT US!
Galatians 5:22-23 New International Version (NIV)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

 

[gaviriachristian]

prepaid meaning you "paid for it in advance with the wicked money"?

Scroll up to where I explain all this, or not.

 

[jb]

I predict the Pittsburgh Steelers will be victorious tonight against the Miami Dolphins.

I didn't know they played tiddlywinks!

 

[wolfwint]

What wickedness? My wickedness of handing out sandwiches to the poor? My wickedness of refusing to use currency that I know is evil and impoverishes the world? So dumb.

I know hindus and moslems which doing moraly good deeds to the poor. Will this deeds save him? You are following a believe system Paul was fighting again. How you can proclaim this as truth? As Jew you have to follow the thorah in deed. But not as follower of Christ.

 

[gaviriachristian]

I know hindus and moslems which doing moraly good deeds to the poor. Will this deeds save him? You are following a believe system Paul was fighting again. How you can proclaim this as truth? As Jew you have to follow the thorah in deed. But not as follower of Christ.

No, because they lack belief in Yeshuah. Belief in Yeshuah and good works are required.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Have you read the article I posted some time back, called...

"The Hebrew Calendar: What year is it, and does it really matter?" by Dr David R Reagan

https://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-jewish-calendar/

In the article, he shows how the Hebrew calendar is [likely] "off" by as much as "256 years!" (meaning, it would be 256 years later than what shows to be, on the current Hebrew calendars).

This means that the current "Hebrew year" is not as "Hebcal" (and other similar Hebrew calendar sites) show/shows, but would be more like the year "6036" presently, instead. (I'm not even going to go into the idea of how the time-prophecies related to Israel seem to be factored using the 360-day year, such as the "2520-yrs FROM 537bc TO 1948; and 2520-yrs FROM 518bc TO 1967"... that'd be the subject for a different thread, but just to show for example )


[oh cool! I just noticed you have exactly "256 posts" as of the time of this writing, LOL!]

 

[UnderGrace]

prepaid meaning you "paid for it in advance with the wicked money"?

Good point... everything one owns is based on wicked money.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

By their fruits you will know them said the Messiah. A true believer of God will abound in good works. A false believer of God will have no good works, which is most of you if not all of you, because not only do you people discard the Torah that commands us to do good works, but you people think doing good works is optional and not mandatory. So the only imposters of the truth are actually you.

Atheists do charitable works, so do pagans, some of the worst criminals in history were known for charitable works. So their fruit must be some thing different than charitable deeds. Not that charitable deeds are bad, they just aren't the measure of a Christ follower.
How dare you pass judgement on the people of this forum. You have no idea of what good deeds they do. They just know that the good they do is not the measure of their Christianity.
They profess the true Gospel. That Jesus, the son of God, came to earth fulfilled the law, became the atonement for sin, via his death, burial, and resurrection and will come to gather his people to himself. And this has become their reason for doing good.

 

[Lightskin]

Belief in Yeshuah and good works are required.

By stating you need to perform good works to be saved you’re slapping Jesus in the face every single day you walk this Earth.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Atheists do charitable works, so do pagans, some of the worst criminals in history were known for charitable works. So their fruit must be some thing different than charitable deeds. Not that charitable deeds are bad, they just aren't the measure of a Christ follower.
How dare you pass judgement on the people of this forum. You have no idea of what good deeds they do. They just know that the good they do is not the measure of their Christianity.
They profess the true Gospel. That Jesus, the son of God, came to earth fulfilled the law, became the atonement for sin, via his death, burial, and resurrection and will come to gather his people to himself. And this has become their reason for doing good.

They do not have belief in Yeshuah. Belief and good works are required. As well as obedience to the commands of the Torah. If you have all of these, now you are truly set apart. But if you have mere belief, without good works and no obedience to the Torah, your belief is as good as demons who also believe.

 

[gaviriachristian]

By stating you need to perform good works to be saved you’re slapping Jesus in the face every single day you walk this Earth.

Is that so? The Messiah commanded that we do good works. So the one slapping the Messiah in the face is you by speaking contrary to what he commanded. That is why he said, "why do you call me Lord, Lord, and do not do what I say?"

 

[Lightskin]

Is that so? The Messiah commanded that we do good works. So the one slapping the Messiah in the face is you by speaking contrary to what he commanded. That is why he said, "why do you call me Lord, Lord, and do not do what I say?"

You preach that we need to do good works in order to be saved. That’s absolute heresy.

 

[gaviriachristian]

You preach that we need to do good works in order to be saved. That’s absolute heresy.

Because that is what is written, "belief without works is dead" and "any tree that does not bear good fruit will but cut down" and "YOU SHALL open your hand wide to the poor", which implies, good works are mandatory. It is you who believes and teaches a false gospel that says we are not obligated to feed our neighbor who is hungry or clothe our neighbor who is naked. It is precisely because of despicable believers like yourself that the other day I was walking on the streets of Medellín and encountered a homeless man who was walking almost naked on the streets and barefoot and only had some tiny shorts to cover his private parts. There were many people around him, and many different Christian and Catholic churches all around, and no one stopped to offer than man a sweater and some shoes. I had to do it. And it angers me, because of people like you is why this happens. The very reason the Torah commands that we share with our neighbor is so that the basic needs of everyone in a society are met, food, clothes, and shelter. And this is one of the most profound things the Messiah taught us, to give, which is how we should love, through actions. You do not understand nor know the gospel of the Messiah.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

your belief is as good as demons who also believe.

There are a lot of religions that believe "God is one"... they just completely disregard or denigrate JESUS CHRIST (and His finished work on the cross).

"You believe that God is one. You are doing well! Even the demons believe that, and shudder!" James 2:19


This isn't saying "belief/trust in Jesus Christ and His finished work" is what was true of the "demons"... just that they believe "God is one"... many religious people believe that, but this does not make them "saved" persons.


1 John 5:9-12 -

9 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater. For this is the testimony of God that He has testified concerning His Son. 10 The one believing in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one not believing God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning His Son.
11 And this is the testimony: that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 The one having the Son has life; the one not having the Son of God does not have life.

 

[Lightskin]

Because that is what is written, "belief without works is dead" and "any tree that does not bear good fruit will but cut down" and "YOU SHALL open your hand wide to the poor", which implies, good works are mandatory. It is you who believes and teaches a false gospel that says we are not obligated to feed our neighbor who is hungry or clothe our neighbor who is naked. It is precisely because of despicable believers like yourself that the other day I was walking on the streets of Medellín and encountered a homeless man who was walking almost naked on the streets and barefoot and only had some tiny shorts to cover his private parts. There were many people around him, and many different Christian and Catholic churches all around, and no one stopped to offer than man a sweater and some shoes. I had to do it. And it angers me, because of people like you is why this happens. The very reason the Torah commands that we share with our neighbor is so that the basic needs of everyone in a society are met, food, clothes, and shelter. And this is one of the most profound things the Messiah taught us, to give, which is how we should love, through actions. You do not understand nor know the gospel of the Messiah.

You see, that’s where you get things twisted, like all other legalistic worker bee salvationists.

I never said we don’t need to love thy neighbor or take care of them. I said we are saved by grace through faith.

Loving our neighbors and taking care of them is a fruit that comes forth by the indwelling of God’s love within us when we know we are saved.

You do works which never did save and never will save. I bear fruit because I am saved. Monumental difference!

 

[wolfwint]

No, because they lack belief in Yeshuah. Belief in Yeshuah and good works are required.

You are in the wrong movie. Judaism is what teaches a false gospel! Since pentecost!

 

[gaviriachristian]

You see, that’s where you get things twisted, like all other legalistic worker bee salvationists.

I never said we don’t need to love thy neighbor or take care of them. I said we are saved by grace through faith.

Loving our neighbors and taking care of them is a fruit that comes forth by the indwelling of God’s love within us when we know we are saved.

You do works which never did save and never will save. I bear fruit because I am saved. Monumental difference!

I agree that we are saved by favor through belief. But then as a result of that favor and belief, we are obligated to do good works, otherwise our belief is null, and a null belief means we will not inherit the kingdom of God, because we are not doing what we are obligated to do, which is sin. Your problem is that you think good works are optional, and not obligatory, which is a monumental difference. If everyone here in town knew that good works were mandatory, and not obligatory, someone would've already covered up that poor man and also given him some shoes. But because believers like yourself walk around thinking they are not obligated to do good works, then people are left out on the streets with no one to feed or clothe them. This was the sin of Sodom, not only homosexuality, but that they were overfed and disregarded the poor around them. Good works are of extreme importance if we profess our belief in Yeshuah, and are our light to the world and our salt on the earth and our good fruit. Without good works, you might as well be an atheist, because your belief is as useless as their disbelief, because it yields no good works and demonstrations of love towards your neighbor.

 

[Lightskin]

I agree that we are saved by favor through belief. But then as a result of that favor and belief, we are obligated to do good works, otherwise our belief is null, and a null belief means we will not inherit the kingdom of God, because we are not doing what we are obligated to do, which is sin. Your problem is that you think good works are optional, and not obligatory, which is a monumental difference. If everyone here in town knew that good works were mandatory, and not obligatory, someone would've already covered up that poor man and also given him some shoes. But because believers like yourself walk around thinking they are not obligated to do good works, then people are left out on the streets with no one to feed or clothe them. This was the sin of Sodom, not only homosexuality, but that they were overfed and disregarded the poor around them. Good works are of extreme importance if we profess our belief in Yeshuah, and are our light to the world and our salt on the earth and our good fruit. Without good works, you might as well be an atheist, because your belief is as useless as their disbelief, because it yields no good works and demonstrations of love towards your neighbor.

If you’re meeting the needs of the poor, sick and disenfranchised for your own personal gain, then your works are but filthy rags in the eyes of God.

On the other hand it pleases God when we meet the needs of the poor, sick and disenfranchised out of genuine love for God and them. Again, monumental difference.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

He is not only a false prophet but also a judaizer as described in Galatians 3.

 

[gaviriachristian]

If you’re meeting the needs of the poor, sick and disenfranchised for your own personal gain, then your works are but filthy rags in the eyes of God.

On the other hand it pleases God when we meet the needs of the poor, sick and disenfranchised out of genuine love for God and them. Again, monumental difference.

Who stands to gain from receiving a sandwich, the poor man or me who gave it to him? You are just blurting out nonsense associating giving to the poor with personal gain, because ultimately you do not want to do good works. When we give something to another it costs us something, which is the opposite of "gaining" something. Be intelligent and not dumb.