Estimated Dates of the Events of the 1 Year Great Tribulation of the Earth
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Wow... so I could die tomorrow and because I had one single dime in my pocket I am doomed.
Are there any others that follow your teaching?
Are there any others that follow your teaching?
Neither shall you bring an abomination into your house, or you will become accursed like it: but you shall utterly detest it, and you shall utterly abhor it; for it is accursed.
Deuteronomy 7:26
You can get rid of paper money and fiat currency whether by exchanging it for things you need, or burning it, that is your choice, and until you do that, along with obedience to all the other commands of the Torah, you are under the curse of the following words, "anyone who has the mark of the beast will be thrown into the lake of fire".
U
I am a loss for words... except to state I am so thankful this is not the revealed Truth of Christ Jesus ... perhaps go back and read the scripture through the lens of love and grace rather than condemnation.
May you be set free from this utter heresy which maligns the very nature of God.
May you be set free from this utter heresy which maligns the very nature of God.
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You bring condemnation upon your own self for refusing to believe the truth. And this is one reason why many are called, but few chosen, and how the entire world is caused to receive the mark of the beast, even most "believers", and great and small, and rich and poor, through money, by deception. And it is wise for God to have done this, to place money itself as a stumbling block to the entire world, and for it to be the definitive test of obedience to those who truly love God and keep and know his commandments. Soon enough you will see I was telling you the truth this whole time, and will regret not having believed me. Go back to your megachurch pastors that speak soothing lies to you people and readily collect tithes from you to fly in their private jets. Their time is also soon coming up.
U
Always with the mega church pastors, I do not have a mega church pastor..... there is always some underlying, je ne sais quoi, "thing" with you especially, special, super duper, self -appointed prophets.
I can agree the monetary system is messy .... and I am sure that I could live very happily without the World Bank, the IMF, the Federal Reserve and other problematic institutions, however I am pretty sure that present day "fiat" money is not the mark of the beast, solely because of it being "fiat" money.
I can agree the monetary system is messy .... and I am sure that I could live very happily without the World Bank, the IMF, the Federal Reserve and other problematic institutions, however I am pretty sure that present day "fiat" money is not the mark of the beast, solely because of it being "fiat" money.
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@gaviriachristian
If you want to believe what you are saying, go ahead. Your beliefs are between you and God. You can share them with us but, we get to choose to believe or not.
So, don't try forcing or shoving them on us. God doesn't even do that.
He let's us choose what we believe. If we seek God with all our heart, we will find Him and know the Truth.
It's not your responsibility to make sure we believe.
How did you get saved? What is your testimony?
If you want to believe what you are saying, go ahead. Your beliefs are between you and God. You can share them with us but, we get to choose to believe or not.
So, don't try forcing or shoving them on us. God doesn't even do that.
He let's us choose what we believe. If we seek God with all our heart, we will find Him and know the Truth.
It's not your responsibility to make sure we believe.
How did you get saved? What is your testimony?
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It is not that its simply "fiat", it's that its devalued. Paper money was originally certificates that represented gold, such as 4 British pounds, 21 Colombian pesos, and 21 American dollars, which was all weight in gold, which was represented by those certificates and those certificates redeemed back gold. And these particular measures of 4 British pounds, 21 Colombian pesos, and 21 American dollars were the equivalent of around 1 ozt of gold around the 1900s. But then, the banks began devaluing the certificates deliberately, to steal the gold that the people had deposited in their banks in exchange for these certificates, and then, with time, the backing of gold was removing from the certificates, which then became "paper money" and "fiat currency", and they continued printing and printing and devaluing and devaluing, to steal more, to cause the savings and incomes of the inhabitants of the world to lag behind the devaluation of the paper money and fiat currency, to then cause prices to go up, to then cause debt, to then cause interest on debt. It is a ponzi scheme, through something that has no intrinsic value, paper. Which is why currently 1,155 British pounds, 1,500 American dollars, and 164,000 Colombian pesos is now the cost of the same 1 ozt of gold, it's not because gold has gone up in value, its because paper money and fiat currency has been devalued to epic proportions. And this is why in Egypt what they earn in one day in minimum wage in their fiat currency is sufficient enough to buy food for 1 day in the US. They are utterly impoverished through this form of money, which fulfills another prophecy regarding, "a quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius". This is why it is evil, and an abomination to God, and why those who use it are as worthy to be punished as those who issue it, because this form of money also exists only by the mutual consent of the people who agree to use it daily. If everyone exchanged it for things they needed and gold and silver and got rid of it completely, it would no longer exist, and what we would have left are the things we need, and gold and silver. We would take back what is ours and remove this financial system from our backs. What keeps it going is the mutual consent of everyone. True money is gold and silver, as it has been for thousands of years, because its value is based on weight, and the same 1 ozt today is the same 1 ozt tomorrow, which is why it cannot be devalued. It is good money and acceptable to God in accordance to his Torah, which is why the Torah calls for righteous weights to use gold and silver accurately as money. But the money of today is an unrighteous quantity, and through it a great evil is done in the world, and that is why it is the fulfillment of the mark of the beast. Understand for the sake of your own and do not harden your heart to believing this truth.
Sharing my beliefs through an internet forum is not "forcing" anyone to do anything. Now if I went into your house and burned all your paper money, now I would be forcing you to do something, which clearly I am not doing. I have been a believer since I was a child, and have now established a ministry in Medellin, Colombia teaching the Torah through belief in Yeshuah and doing good works to the poor.
It's nice that your nannies told you about Him but, have you encountered Yeshua/Jesus for yourself?
I, too was told as a child but, as an adult I began my own search for Him and found Him! Such a difference between somebody telling us about Him and us actually interacting with Him for ourselves.
Have you found Yeshua/Jesus Christ for yourself?
I, too was told as a child but, as an adult I began my own search for Him and found Him! Such a difference between somebody telling us about Him and us actually interacting with Him for ourselves.
Have you found Yeshua/Jesus Christ for yourself?
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It's not that they never tried repenting, its that angels and demons are not granted forgiveness of sins as we are granted forgiveness of sins. The fall of man happened because of a lie, the lie of the serpent, and man was caused to sin as a result of a deception, Eve was deceived and sinned then Adam sinned for the sake of his wife, whereas certain angels who had knowledge of good and evil willfully chose to sin, so that is why we are granted forgiveness, but they on the other hand never have forgiveness, for they have committed aeonal sins. Which is another reason to fear God and obey him, for just as he chooses to forgive, he can choose not to forgive, if it is his prerogative to not do so, for he is God, and while you parade around thinking that your mere belief will grant you forgiveness, these words of Paul do indeed hold true, "if we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of truth there no longer remains sacrifice for sins", meaning there is no longer any forgiveness.
I have never seen Yeshuah with my own eyes, but I believe without seeing. I see how he fulfilled many prophecies written in the prophets, and also how he fulfilled the appointed times of the Torah. There are too many parallels between what he did and what is written to not be true, so I believe that he is the true anointed one of God, the "Messiah", on account of what was foretold about him. I have researched this matter thoroughly and consider it intelligent and wise to believe in him, and beautiful, because he was a good man, he healed the sick, and more importantly, he died not deserving to death so that we may live, if we just believe and obey him. In him I see the fullness of what God is, love, and mercy, and forgiveness, but also righteousness and judgment soon to be revealed in his second coming. So yes, I am a strong believer in Yeshuah. I love him, and it is because of that love I have for him that I am here, to share the truth regarding him.
UG,
hub and I commend you for your patience and grace, even though we know that you have been
challenged in these things.
just a thought for 'gc',
has anyone wondered HOW he 'pays' for his internet-provider'???
we do get where he is coming from as far as 'getting rid of the connection to $$$',
we gave it up at one time in our lives and even 'burned some of it and also worked on the Barter-System for a while -
it definitely taught us some never before thought of connections to our own lives and our dependence upon
the 'world's monetary system' - God taught us the lessons, and we are READY, when necessary, to live without
IT and to TOTALLY live without and put ALL of our TRUST in HIM...
these DAYS are DEFINATELY in our immediate FUTURE, - we as Christians, have to be prepared to do the
'right thing at the right TIME', according to God's Will - the 'signs' are here,
as it is written;
REV. 18:4.
And I heard another Voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, My people, that you be not partakers of her sins,
and that you receive not of her plagues.
hub and I commend you for your patience and grace, even though we know that you have been
challenged in these things.
just a thought for 'gc',
has anyone wondered HOW he 'pays' for his internet-provider'???
we do get where he is coming from as far as 'getting rid of the connection to $$$',
we gave it up at one time in our lives and even 'burned some of it and also worked on the Barter-System for a while -
it definitely taught us some never before thought of connections to our own lives and our dependence upon
the 'world's monetary system' - God taught us the lessons, and we are READY, when necessary, to live without
IT and to TOTALLY live without and put ALL of our TRUST in HIM...
these DAYS are DEFINATELY in our immediate FUTURE, - we as Christians, have to be prepared to do the
'right thing at the right TIME', according to God's Will - the 'signs' are here,
as it is written;
REV. 18:4.
And I heard another Voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, My people, that you be not partakers of her sins,
and that you receive not of her plagues.
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