Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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Ephesians 1:5-6. As he has chosen us from the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before Him in love, Having predestinated us to adoption of sons by Jesus Christ to Himself...
Having predestinated is an aorist participle connected to the former clause, "he has chosen". Which means that the Election and predestination happened together before the foundation of the world, ie before time. Based on the foreknowledge of God as explained in Romans 8 and 2 Peter 1.
God doesn't plan things on the fly. Known unto God are all His works from the foundation of the world. Acts 15:18
Having predestinated is an aorist participle connected to the former clause, "he has chosen". Which means that the Election and predestination happened together before the foundation of the world, ie before time. Based on the foreknowledge of God as explained in Romans 8 and 2 Peter 1.
God doesn't plan things on the fly. Known unto God are all His works from the foundation of the world. Acts 15:18
God doesn't plan things on the fly. Known unto God are all His works from the foundation of the world. Acts 15:18
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called*, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
God knew He was going to adopt you, yes, you personally, before He made the world. EOREKNOWLEDGE. Because adopting you was one of His works, (actions)
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called*, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
God knew He was going to adopt you, yes, you personally, before He made the world. EOREKNOWLEDGE. Because adopting you was one of His works, (actions)
These are ' saints ' in Christ Jesus. There already saved and in him .
5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
God has predestined to the adoption OF children the guatenteed but yet future redemption of the body. We know this because we've already been told in Rom 8 .23 what and when the Adoption is for those in him . Who is the preexisting elect before the foundation of the world ( Jesus ) Remember we don't exist before the foundation of the world. We need to be born by a mother first then at some point in time ( God of course being outside time ) We hear the Gospel and believe, NOW !!!! we become a son and as sons ( just like in Jewish context) we recieve the adoption as full grown sons all the inheritance at the later time .
5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
God has predestined to the adoption OF children the guatenteed but yet future redemption of the body. We know this because we've already been told in Rom 8 .23 what and when the Adoption is for those in him . Who is the preexisting elect before the foundation of the world ( Jesus ) Remember we don't exist before the foundation of the world. We need to be born by a mother first then at some point in time ( God of course being outside time ) We hear the Gospel and believe, NOW !!!! we become a son and as sons ( just like in Jewish context) we recieve the adoption as full grown sons all the inheritance at the later time .
Thats what happens when your placed into Him , in to an eternal being. ( in him ) Notice Paul s use of in him , in Christ, In Christ Jesus, ect its all over Ephesians. We're never Chosen outside of him . Once in him , now we are chosen...to be ....
verse 5 is separate from " chosen "
Calvinsm blends ' election and Predestination together as if its the same . No its clear what we ( just like when we type in our pre - destination into our sat nav ) are in him we become sons ,through the new birth ( john 1.12 ) And only then are we Guranteed that future romans 8.23
verse 5 is separate from " chosen "
Calvinsm blends ' election and Predestination together as if its the same . No its clear what we ( just like when we type in our pre - destination into our sat nav ) are in him we become sons ,through the new birth ( john 1.12 ) And only then are we Guranteed that future romans 8.23
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13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise ,
14which is the earnest ( Guarantee) of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Notice how this mirrors Romans 8.23 .
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise ,
14which is the earnest ( Guarantee) of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Notice how this mirrors Romans 8.23 .