Earth Age

[Dino246]

We all know Gid created everything, but I also know God did it over billions of years our time, that's why the Dinos who all died off provided the oil.

You don't "know" anything of the sort; you weren't there. You may have accepted the assumption-ridden "science" that has come up with such conclusions. Consider the foundation of science: the subject must be observable, testable, repeatable, and falsifiable. The origins of the earth are outside all of these categories.

The Fourth Day is THE SEASONS, not the sun being created again, it came from the earth and Moon crashing into each other and thus God gave us a satellite to control our seasons at that time.

That's more farfetched than a flat earth. Further, the moon doesn't "control" our seasons; the tilt of the earth and its path around the sun control them.

 

[JohnBiycs]

What do you say to people who say the earth is 4.6 billion years old?

I believe it to be that old. I'm into science and think its a matter of reading the scriptures in context. Since not much is stated on the geology of the earth itself we can go but so far. But there is enough information when rightly divided that directs us were with science to look. Geology, biology or whatever else involves the questions about the makeup of the planet.

Genesis 1:1 is the answer if its read plainly. The earth is already present at the beginning and nothing more is given on the age. So naturally we look to science to answer what the Bible is silent on.

 

[Dino246]

I believe it to be that old. I'm into science and think its a matter of reading the scriptures in context. Since not much is stated on the geology of the earth itself we can go but so far. But there is enough information when rightly divided that directs us were with science to look. Geology, biology or whatever else involves the questions about the makeup of the planet.

Genesis 1:1 is the answer if its read plainly. The earth is already present at the beginning and nothing more is given on the age. So naturally we look to science to answer what the Bible is silent on.

Welcome to CC...

Let me encourage you to read Genesis 1:1 more closely. It doesn't say, "In the beginning, earth..." but rather, "In the beginning, God created...".

 

[JohnBiycs]

Welcome to CC...

Let me encourage you to read Genesis 1:1 more closely. It doesn't say, "In the beginning, earth..." but rather, "In the beginning, God created...".

Its a paraphrase. The meaning is the same. The beginning is the keyword here.
But I wont debate this further. I study the science enough to know the age of the earth. And scripture enough to know it does not state a number of its age. So we must look at the nature itself. Scientific methods is just a more precise way to study Gods nature.

 

[Dino246]

Its a paraphrase. The meaning is the same. The beginning is the keyword here.
But I wont debate this further. I study the science enough to know the age of the earth. And scripture enough to know it does not state a number of its age. So we must look at the nature itself. Scientific methods is just a more precise way to study Gods nature.

Do you treat science with the same degree of paraphrase, as to corrupt its meaning entirely?

 

[cv5]

What do you say to people who say the earth is 4.6 billion years old?

Understand the Plasma/Electric universe theory. And discover that the solar system is formed practically instantaneously.
Jettison the absurd and erroneous gravitational theories. They don't even understand that gravity is likewise magnetism of a different sort. Gravity is actually non-point source dielectric acceleration. And the acceleration is to a NULL POINT....not to the respective bodies themselves.

Great work by Barry Setterfield. I do not agree with every point....but in principle he is correct.

 

[cv5]

Its a paraphrase. The meaning is the same. The beginning is the keyword here.
But I wont debate this further. I study the science enough to know the age of the earth. And scripture enough to know it does not state a number of its age. So we must look at the nature itself. Scientific methods is just a more precise way to study Gods nature.

If you actually believe the dates of the secular scientists......you are deceived IMO. They are undoubtedly wrong.

The world is NOT 6000 years old, as per the Masoretic. This a biblical misconception. The LXX is correct. But it is definitely not billions of years old either. READ ON.....

http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/genesis_genealogies.html

http://genevaninstitute.org/syllabu...rimeval-chronology-by-dr-william-henry-green/

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And this has absolutely nothing to do with the TIMING we were speaking of above my friend. No one is arguing that God didn't design everything, you just insist He did ot in 6 days and I understand God did his design over 13.7 billion years our time. Do you even understand Space-Time is curved? You can actually send a child in space and he could come back 1000s of years later having barely aged. Einstein had to prove his theory of relativity via a test where he proved space-time was curved or warped. He could only do it during an eclipse, go read about it. So, our time is not God's time, why try to subject God to our TIMING?

We all know Gid created everything, but I also know God did it over billions of years our time, that's why the Dinos who all died off provided the oil. The Fourth Day is THE SEASONS, not the sun being created again, it came from the earth and Moon crashing into each other and thus God gave us a satellite to control our seasons at that time.

I hear it all, I hear fat Earthers, and it's all I can do to not laugh them out of the room. One is my brother. Satan is a great liar. I will tell you whose teaching that stuff, its some liberal who doesn't believe it, but he's trying to discredit Christians unto our youth, and the CIA/FBI/NSA are all part of this propaganda machine, they use all this stuff to discredit Christians as ignorant hillbilies.

What I know. Is when God created it, He said it was good.

He created the starts for a purpose.

And the DAY he created them. They were doing what they were created to do ON THAT DAY.

God did not need thousands of years.. He is GOD

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You don't "know" anything of the sort; you weren't there. You may have accepted the assumption-ridden "science" that has come up with such conclusions. Consider the foundation of science: the subject must be observable, testable, repeatable, and falsifiable. The origins of the earth are outside all of these categories.


That's more farfetched than a flat earth. Further, the moon doesn't "control" our seasons; the tilt of the earth and its path around the sun control them.

lol. I guess all we have to do is let them talk. they will hurt their own argument eventually.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I believe it to be that old. I'm into science and think its a matter of reading the scriptures in context. Since not much is stated on the geology of the earth itself we can go but so far. But there is enough information when rightly divided that directs us were with science to look. Geology, biology or whatever else involves the questions about the makeup of the planet.

Genesis 1:1 is the answer if its read plainly. The earth is already present at the beginning and nothing more is given on the age. So naturally we look to science to answer what the Bible is silent on.

I think the bible speaks loudly

Gen 1:1 is creation at its inception

The rest of Gen 1 s a detailed explanation of creation as it happens.

Then the next part is a more detailed of the creation of man

Its all there.

If we want explanation of the rest we see today. Look to the flood. We can find most of the answers there.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Its a paraphrase. The meaning is the same. The beginning is the keyword here.
But I wont debate this further. I study the science enough to know the age of the earth. And scripture enough to know it does not state a number of its age. So we must look at the nature itself. Scientific methods is just a more precise way to study Gods nature.

Only if things which occurred in the begining are as they are today.

If this is not the case. Then science is only accurate to a point. Then can not be trusted past that point

Peter left us a warning about the last days

2 Peter 3: 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and [b]perdition of ungodly men.

Peter. also in his word. tells us that they forget the flood.

Science needs to look to the flood. Then they will find their answers to most we see today. No one was here before the flood but Noah and his family. And they did not tell us scientifically how things were back then. All we can do is assume

 

[cv5]

And this has absolutely nothing to do with the TIMING we were speaking of above my friend. No one is arguing that God didn't design everything, you just insist He did ot in 6 days and I understand God did his design over 13.7 billion years our time. Do you even understand Space-Time is curved? You can actually send a child in space and he could come back 1000s of years later having barely aged. Einstein had to prove his theory of relativity via a test where he proved space-time was curved or warped. He could only do it during an eclipse, go read about it. So, our time is not God's time, why try to subject God to our TIMING?

We all know Gid created everything, but I also know God did it over billions of years our time, that's why the Dinos who all died off provided the oil. The Fourth Day is THE SEASONS, not the sun being created again, it came from the earth and Moon crashing into each other and thus God gave us a satellite to control our seasons at that time.

I hear it all, I hear fat Earthers, and it's all I can do to not laugh them out of the room. One is my brother. Satan is a great liar. I will tell you whose teaching that stuff, its some liberal who doesn't believe it, but he's trying to discredit Christians unto our youth, and the CIA/FBI/NSA are all part of this propaganda machine, they use all this stuff to discredit Christians as ignorant hillbilies.

<<<but I also know God did it over billions of years our time >>>

I would prayerfully reconsider your brash statements made in utter ignorance.....

Job 38:4
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.

 

[cv5]

I believe it to be that old. I'm into science and think its a matter of reading the scriptures in context. Since not much is stated on the geology of the earth itself we can go but so far. But there is enough information when rightly divided that directs us were with science to look. Geology, biology or whatever else involves the questions about the makeup of the planet.

Genesis 1:1 is the answer if its read plainly. The earth is already present at the beginning and nothing more is given on the age. So naturally we look to science to answer what the Bible is silent on.

You had better do more research. A lot more....
The garbage in secular science tomes are so useless you might as well ignore it altogether. Sure they have some things rights....but even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Here you go buddy. Some stupendous catastrophism events you will NEVER read about in the obsolete volumes you adore.
Get a grip on reality while you are at it...

 

[cv5]

I believe it to be that old. I'm into science and think its a matter of reading the scriptures in context. Since not much is stated on the geology of the earth itself we can go but so far. But there is enough information when rightly divided that directs us were with science to look. Geology, biology or whatever else involves the questions about the makeup of the planet.

Genesis 1:1 is the answer if its read plainly. The earth is already present at the beginning and nothing more is given on the age. So naturally we look to science to answer what the Bible is silent on.

Lets put an END to this heresy of billions of years.....
For pity's sake man EDUCATE YOURSELF.

 

[ResidentAlien]

What do you say to people who say the earth is 4.6 billion years old?

People who say the earth is this old do so because they believe in evolution. If evolution is a fact, as they surmise, it would take great periods of time for things to evolve. That's why they need 4.6 billion years or better.

I just point to the fallacies of evolution. If evolution is a lie, then the earth could theoretically be much younger. I don't know how old the earth is, but I know evolution is nonsense.

 

[cv5]

People who say the earth is this old do so because they believe in evolution. If evolution is a fact, as they surmise, it would take great periods of time for things to evolve. That's why they need 4.6 billion years or better.

I just point to the fallacies of evolution. If evolution is a lie, then the earth could theoretically be much younger. I don't know how old the earth is, but I know evolution is nonsense.

Life and living creatures as we know them are so inherently NON-EVOLUTIONARY by nature that it is just ridiculous to say otherwise.

DNA is three out of four ERROR CORRECTING CODE. And deviates to the mean.

The truth is that living species have an inherent drive to ELIMINATE deviations in their gene pool. For example, many birds will never mate if their plumage is not utterly species specific to a flawless degree. Animals are always seeking mates that exemplify genetic continuity and fitness....not the contrary.

 

[cv5]

I believe it to be that old. I'm into science and think its a matter of reading the scriptures in context. Since not much is stated on the geology of the earth itself we can go but so far. But there is enough information when rightly divided that directs us were with science to look. Geology, biology or whatever else involves the questions about the makeup of the planet.

Genesis 1:1 is the answer if its read plainly. The earth is already present at the beginning and nothing more is given on the age. So naturally we look to science to answer what the Bible is silent on.

Pity the poor coelacanth.....supposedly 410 MILLION years old and hasn't changed one iota. What happened....they missed the evolutionary bus?

 

[Webers.Home]

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Lets put an END to this heresy of billions of years..... For pity's sake man
EDUCATE YOURSELF.

Beware believing yourself infallible and immune to deception lest the hapless
day arrives when it's discovered that you your own self were a heretic all along
and didn't know it.

NOTE: I live in the USA. There was a time when second opinions were not
only respectable in my country, but earnestly sought after. These days, people
with a second opinion are canceled; they're branded as extremists and
accused of misinformation. That's the real pity that I see going on.
_

 

[eternally-gratefull]

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Beware believing yourself infallible and immune to deception lest the hapless
day arrives when it's discovered that you your own self were a heretic all along
and didn't know it.

NOTE: I live in the USA. There was a time when second opinions were not
only respectable in my country, but earnestly sought after. These days, people
with a second opinion are canceled; they're branded as extremists and
accused of misinformation. That's the real pity that I see going on.
_

Its part of the division

We can't find middle ground

 

[cv5]

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Beware believing yourself infallible and immune to deception lest the hapless
day arrives when it's discovered that you your own self were a heretic all along
and didn't know it.

NOTE: I live in the USA. There was a time when second opinions were not
only respectable in my country, but earnestly sought after. These days, people
with a second opinion are canceled; they're branded as extremists and
accused of misinformation. That's the real pity that I see going on.
_

So what are you saying? That the earth is billions of years old?

A yes or no answer will suffice.

Awaiting your honest reply.