Does the Bible support the idea of a spinning ball earth flying through space, or is that a Satanic, Masonic lie?

[tourist]

https://salinachristaria.medium.com/9-knowers-who-know-the-earth-is-flat-772e500c3c6c

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Are you a NASA worshiper too?

 

[Fundaamental]

Are you a NASA worshiper too?

lol the heart speaks what it's fond of, he has been going on a lot about NASA.

 

[NotmebutHim]

N A S A, it's fun to talk about the N A S A.................

 

[Cameron143]

N A S A, it's fun to talk about the N A S A.................

Did you write that using a Paulie Shore accent?

 

[Fundaamental]

What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts

 

[Moses_Young]

So you're willing to quote NASA when it suits you, but when it suits the ball-Earth paradigm, it's all satanic conspiracy? That's rank hypocrisy.

It's called the use of a hostile witness, and it's a common and useful debating tactic. Of course, for someone who won't accept the fundamentals of logic, science, the infallibility of scripture and now debating - still impossible to convince.

 

[Fundaamental]

It's called the use of a hostile witness, and it's a common and useful debating tactic. Of course, for someone who won't accept the fundamentals of logic, science, the infallibility of scripture and now debating - still impossible to convince.

using a hostile witness to prove a point is complete madness friend.

Science proves things sometimes but a lot of the time science is used to base theories upon for experimental purposes.

Your also disagreeing with someone who has sailed around the world friend 😊

 

[Moses_Young]

using a hostile witness to prove a point is complete madness friend.

Science proves things sometimes but a lot of the time science is used to base theories upon for experimental purposes.

Your also disagreeing with someone who has sailed around the world friend 😊

Luke 20:1 - 8
And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon him with the elders,
And spake unto him, saying, Tell us, by what authority doest thou these things? or who is he that gave thee this authority
And he answered and said unto them, I will also ask you one thing; and answer me:
The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men?
And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then believed ye him not?
But and if we say, Of men; all the people will stone us: for they be persuaded that John was a prophet.
And they answered, that they could not tell whence it was.
And Jesus said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.

 

[Fundaamental]

Luke 20:1 - 8
And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon him with the elders,
And spake unto him, saying, Tell us, by what authority doest thou these things? or who is he that gave thee this authority
And he answered and said unto them, I will also ask you one thing; and answer me:
The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men?
And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then believed ye him not?
But and if we say, Of men; all the people will stone us: for they be persuaded that John was a prophet.
And they answered, that they could not tell whence it was.
And Jesus said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.

So Jesus was a hostile witness ?, On the same level as NASA

 

[tourist]

N A S A, it's fun to talk about the N A S A.................

"It's fun to stay at the N.A.S.A."
Oh, that's wrong....
"It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A"
Sorry, my bad per usual.

 

[Sojourner414]

 

[JTB]

You are trying to contradict how pilots fly airplanes; what I have posted is common knowledge. We are the enlightened ones because we don't contradict common knowledge and reality.

Are you a pilot? I am. And what you say is patently absurd.

 

[JTB]

Maybe not quite the right picture for here, but the sentiment is the same...

 

[Beckie]

It's called the use of a hostile witness, and it's a common and useful debating tactic. Of course, for someone who won't accept the fundamentals of logic, science, the infallibility of scripture and now debating - still impossible to convince.

I believe the Scripture to infallible , our understanding is different. How does a disk have 4 corners ? As in Isa_11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
In The Revelation Rev_7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Was this a vision or a land and sea earth?

 

[JTB]

I believe the Scripture to infallible , our understanding is different. How does a disk have 4 corners ? As in Isa_11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
In The Revelation Rev_7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Was this a vision or a land and sea earth?

So the world is not only flat, it's also square

 

[Beckie]

So the world is not only flat, it's also square

I am asking what flat earther believe?

 

[Moses_Young]

I believe the Scripture to infallible , our understanding is different. How does a disk have 4 corners ? As in Isa_11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
In The Revelation Rev_7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Was this a vision or a land and sea earth?

I think "four corners" is likely a figure of speech, much like the rising and setting of the sun (afterall, the outcasts of Israel are not literally at each of the four corners of the Earth, even if these do exist). Although it could be the land part of the Earth is round, and the seas are rectangular - or vice versa. Of course, ball-Earthers have the same problem to explain as balls don't have corners. The four winds could be figurative also, or they could be literal.

 

[Beckie]

I think "four corners" is likely a figure of speech, much like the rising and setting of the sun (afterall, the outcasts of Israel are not literally at each of the four corners of the Earth, even if these do exist). Although it could be the land part of the Earth is round, and the seas are rectangular - or vice versa. Of course, ball-Earthers have the same problem to explain as balls don't have corners. The four winds could be figurative also, or they could be literal.

No it is not the same . Some flat earthers use the 'four corners' as a Biblical proof to flat earth.

 

[Moses_Young]

No it is not the same . Some flat earthers use the 'four corners' as a Biblical proof to flat earth.

I think the "circle of the Earth" mentioned in Isaiah is a better proof scripture. The word used is for a circle (2D), not a ball (3D). Sure, it could be talking about appearances, but other scriptures start adding up. In Genesis, the Earth is created first (the sun and moon only on day 4). So what was the Earth orbiting for days 1 - 3, if Heliocentricity is true? And why no mention of when God put Earth into orbit, if He did it on day 4? How did the starlight get to Earth so quickly, if the stars are millions of light years away (i.e. as required in Heliocentricity)? In Joshua, it was the sun and moon that scripture says stood still - not the Earth. The heliocentric theory creates a lot of inconsistencies with scripture, when scripture doesn't really even support it. If there is no scientific justification for heliocentricity (and there isn't), why not presume the Earth is Flat, which is also consistent with scripture?

 

[Beckie]

I think the "circle of the Earth" mentioned in Isaiah is a better proof scripture. The word used is for a circle (2D), not a ball (3D). Sure, it could be talking about appearances, but other scriptures start adding up. In Genesis, the Earth is created first (the sun and moon only on day 4). So what was the Earth orbiting for days 1 - 3, if Heliocentricity is true? And why no mention of when God put Earth into orbit, if He did it on day 4? How did the starlight get to Earth so quickly, if the stars are millions of light years away (i.e. as required in Heliocentricity)? In Joshua, it was the sun and moon that scripture says stood still - not the Earth. The heliocentric theory creates a lot of inconsistencies with scripture, when scripture doesn't really even support it. If there is no scientific justification for heliocentricity (and there isn't), why not presume the Earth is Flat, which is also consistent with scripture?

I do not agree with your understanding of Scripture on this topic. I kinda see the Genesis account as a outline sorta.. Not total detail of the creation.
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
EX: verse 21 says we have whales it does not say octopus or shark. It says every winged fowl it does not list them all. I dont expect details in Genesis .
For the record i believe in the 6 day creation.