Does entering into Jesus' rest mean we're to give up the Sabbath day? Is the 4th commandment part of the moral law of God?
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You know of scripture to support the fast day set aside connected with the weekly sabbath? I am under the assumption that all the observered times of the year were connected.
I was simply making a point to some poster who mentions Jesus honoring the sabbath and indeed He did and as well honored the Passover meal every year He went to Jerusalem for the event and there was a lamb scarfice and He ate it as per requirements of the commandments.
As well I’m going to point out the fact that some speak about wanting to take off work at Sun down on Friday til sun up on Saturday as if some revered act of obedience they have not t done and yet fail to honor any else that Jesus as well honored. I almost fell out of my seat laughing at some of those prideful claims they never honored in the first place. I call them frauds speaking of mighty acts they didn’t do.
and no it wasn’t you that made such a claim.
I was simply making a point to some poster who mentions Jesus honoring the sabbath and indeed He did and as well honored the Passover meal every year He went to Jerusalem for the event and there was a lamb scarfice and He ate it as per requirements of the commandments.
As well I’m going to point out the fact that some speak about wanting to take off work at Sun down on Friday til sun up on Saturday as if some revered act of obedience they have not t done and yet fail to honor any else that Jesus as well honored. I almost fell out of my seat laughing at some of those prideful claims they never honored in the first place. I call them frauds speaking of mighty acts they didn’t do.
and no it wasn’t you that made such a claim.
The 10 commandments are not the Old covenant.
The Old Covenant had some poor promises in it, where as the New Covenant, we are told, "was established upon better promises." Heb 8:6. Is there any poor promises in the Ten Commandments? No, on the contrary, Paul declares that they were very good.
In verse 7 the Bible says the Old Covenant was faulty. "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second." Hebrews 8:7. Can you find a fault or a flaw in the handwriting of God? The psalmist declared, "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul." Psalm 19:7. Paul wrote, "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." Romans 7:12. No law could be perfect and faulty at the same time. It becomes more and more apparent that the Old Covenant could not have been the Ten Commandments.
In Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away." The Old Covenant was to be abolished, vanish away! So did the great Moral law of Ten Commandments vanish away? Anyone who has read the New Testament must answer, Absolutely not. Paul affirms the exact opposite about the law. He asked, "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31.
Does the Bible contradict itself?
The Old Covenant had some poor promises in it, where as the New Covenant, we are told, "was established upon better promises." Heb 8:6. Is there any poor promises in the Ten Commandments? No, on the contrary, Paul declares that they were very good.
In verse 7 the Bible says the Old Covenant was faulty. "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second." Hebrews 8:7. Can you find a fault or a flaw in the handwriting of God? The psalmist declared, "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul." Psalm 19:7. Paul wrote, "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." Romans 7:12. No law could be perfect and faulty at the same time. It becomes more and more apparent that the Old Covenant could not have been the Ten Commandments.
In Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away." The Old Covenant was to be abolished, vanish away! So did the great Moral law of Ten Commandments vanish away? Anyone who has read the New Testament must answer, Absolutely not. Paul affirms the exact opposite about the law. He asked, "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31.
Does the Bible contradict itself?
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Jesus is my Lamb.
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Heb 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Heb 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
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I am going off topic a little here, but it is because of the topic in the OP that I am doing this....
My husband and I have been married for over four years and in that time he has never really seen me cry. His wife that passed away cried frequently and had every right to do that as she was in terrible pain all of the time and so she cried a lot. I think I have made my husband wonder at times why I don't cry... and maybe he has wondered if I am a cold uncaring person. He knows I'm sure that I am not cold and uncaring.
Recently I did cry not long but a friends daughter has been going through a terrible situation and has ended up homeless and is a single mother I wanted to help her and there are circumstances in addition, but I prayed about it and as I was praying I was also praying about this site knowing that there are lots of people truly seeking for truth real Bible truth as many of you and I also am always wanting the Holy Spirit to help me in seeking and understanding God's truth.
What made me cry is partly my friends daughters situation but more so the Bible stating that satan has a way of putting blinders on people and keeping them from the truth. I don't want to be one of those people and it just hit my heart really hard that there are so many people who refuse to see the truth that is plainly written in God's word. I cried for all of us seeking the truth and the truth being hidden at times by satan and his lies that are spread.
All I know is that when a believer asks for God's guidance that His Spirit will lead us to the truth and the blinders will come off and satan is not able to keep the truth from us so my prayer for all reading this is that you truly seek to know the truth with God's Holy Spirit to clear the path to that truth. God bless anyone brave enough to read through this long entry...
I said to my husband... see I can cry....
My husband and I have been married for over four years and in that time he has never really seen me cry. His wife that passed away cried frequently and had every right to do that as she was in terrible pain all of the time and so she cried a lot. I think I have made my husband wonder at times why I don't cry... and maybe he has wondered if I am a cold uncaring person. He knows I'm sure that I am not cold and uncaring.
Recently I did cry not long but a friends daughter has been going through a terrible situation and has ended up homeless and is a single mother I wanted to help her and there are circumstances in addition, but I prayed about it and as I was praying I was also praying about this site knowing that there are lots of people truly seeking for truth real Bible truth as many of you and I also am always wanting the Holy Spirit to help me in seeking and understanding God's truth.
What made me cry is partly my friends daughters situation but more so the Bible stating that satan has a way of putting blinders on people and keeping them from the truth. I don't want to be one of those people and it just hit my heart really hard that there are so many people who refuse to see the truth that is plainly written in God's word. I cried for all of us seeking the truth and the truth being hidden at times by satan and his lies that are spread.
All I know is that when a believer asks for God's guidance that His Spirit will lead us to the truth and the blinders will come off and satan is not able to keep the truth from us so my prayer for all reading this is that you truly seek to know the truth with God's Holy Spirit to clear the path to that truth. God bless anyone brave enough to read through this long entry...
I said to my husband... see I can cry....
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