Do you observe the Sabbath?
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You're only under grace if you're continually walking in the Spirit. If you stop walking in the Spirit you're under the law and, therefore, not under grace. So you have to actually do something. Grace isn't unmerited or undeserved favor. It's quid pro quo and depends on your choices from day to day and sometimes from second to second.
Galatians 5
16So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
So, like I said, there are things you have to do to stay in that grace. Obedience and a striving to be righteous are required. Here's another example of falling from grace due to not being led by the Spirit.
Hebrews 12
14Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. 15See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. 16See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. 17Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected. Even though he sought the blessing with tears, he could not change what he had done.
Galatians 5
16So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
So, like I said, there are things you have to do to stay in that grace. Obedience and a striving to be righteous are required. Here's another example of falling from grace due to not being led by the Spirit.
Hebrews 12
14Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. 15See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. 16See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. 17Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected. Even though he sought the blessing with tears, he could not change what he had done.
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It's more like making a practice of sin. Think of any habitual sin people may do that they aren't even trying to resist anymore. That isn't walking in the Spirit.
1 John 3
9Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this the children of God are distinguished from the children of the devil: Anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is anyone who does not love his brother.
1 John 3
9Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this the children of God are distinguished from the children of the devil: Anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is anyone who does not love his brother.
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Hebrews 12:14 - Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. (NASB). To be sanctified is to be "set apart/made holy." Without justification, there is no sanctification.
Those who are sanctified have been "set apart" or "made holy" in standing before God positionally in Christ. 1 Corinthians 6:11 - Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. These people will see the Lord.
In the very next verse (Hebrews 12:15) we read - See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God.. (NASB) The ESV reads - ..fails to obtain the grace of God. That puts things into perspective here.
Those who are sanctified have been "set apart" or "made holy" in standing before God positionally in Christ. 1 Corinthians 6:11 - Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. These people will see the Lord.
In the very next verse (Hebrews 12:15) we read - See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God.. (NASB) The ESV reads - ..fails to obtain the grace of God. That puts things into perspective here.
That's correct but sadly your self or personal righteousness, can never reach the required mark.
A divine sacrifice was needed for our atonement, reconciliation.
Only the sacrifice that Jesus rendered, the perfect sacrifice, accomplished that atonement for us.
Everything good thing comes from above, unless of course you think that you have a part to play, in that divine reconciliation?
A divine sacrifice was needed for our atonement, reconciliation.
Only the sacrifice that Jesus rendered, the perfect sacrifice, accomplished that atonement for us.
Everything good thing comes from above, unless of course you think that you have a part to play, in that divine reconciliation?
You're only under grace if you're continually walking in the Spirit. If you stop walking in the Spirit you're under the law and, therefore, not under grace. So you have to actually do something. Grace isn't unmerited or undeserved favor. It's quid pro quo and depends on your choices from day to day and sometimes from second to second.
there are things you have to do to stay in that grace. Obedience and a striving to be righteous are required. Here's another example of falling from grace due to not being led by the Spirit.
Hebrews 12
14Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. 15See to it that no one falls short of the grace of Godand that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. 16See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. 17Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected.Even though he sought the blessing with tears, he could not change what he had done.
there are things you have to do to stay in that grace. Obedience and a striving to be righteous are required. Here's another example of falling from grace due to not being led by the Spirit.
Hebrews 12
14Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. 15See to it that no one falls short of the grace of Godand that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. 16See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. 17Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected.Even though he sought the blessing with tears, he could not change what he had done.
I haven’t even changed my position. You have to do something and if you don’t do it you fall from grace. If we agree about then suddenly then I’m good and got nothing else to say. 
Whether or not you walk the walk, is not the primary doctrine.
Christ's death and resurrection is the primary cause of your salvation.
Of course, you can trash the gift of salvation given to you. I never said you can't.
If you do not live and walk in that gift of grace, then that is a failure to not believe in Jesus in the first instance.
All sin arises from that unbelief.
Yet salvation is given to those that believe.
You had no part to play in your reconciliation to God, none whatsoever.
The glory belongs only to Jesus Christ!!!!
You do not believe in salvation by grace through faith. Your interpretation is salvation by grace with the addition of the sabbath and as a very strict requirement.
In other words, Jesus plus the works of the law.
If Jesus fulfilled the entire law, then the entire law has been annulled. You can't have a partial legal system. It's all or nothing.
In other words, Jesus plus the works of the law.
If Jesus fulfilled the entire law, then the entire law has been annulled. You can't have a partial legal system. It's all or nothing.
Okay, then we don’t agree about anything. That’s what I thought.
I’ll just stick with the plain words of the Bible that say you’re not under God’s law if you walk in the Spirit, you’re under grace if you walk in the Spirit, and if you don’t then you’re under the law and therefore not saved by grace because grace is conditional.
Your error is you’re supposing it’s impossible to lose your salvation, something the Bible doesn’t say. Amazingly, the exact oppose is stated throughout the Bible.
The bottom line for this is who’s side are you really on? I’m saying don’t sin, do good works, walk in the Spirit, don’t walk in the flesh. You’re trying to rebuttal all of this. Not happening.
With the Bible discussions can become circular because we’re confined to the box of what the Bible says. When we have gone through it all we just start reiterating the same points again and again. Let’s agree to disgaree.
The Sabbath is required.
I’ll just stick with the plain words of the Bible that say you’re not under God’s law if you walk in the Spirit, you’re under grace if you walk in the Spirit, and if you don’t then you’re under the law and therefore not saved by grace because grace is conditional.
Your error is you’re supposing it’s impossible to lose your salvation, something the Bible doesn’t say. Amazingly, the exact oppose is stated throughout the Bible.
The bottom line for this is who’s side are you really on? I’m saying don’t sin, do good works, walk in the Spirit, don’t walk in the flesh. You’re trying to rebuttal all of this. Not happening.
With the Bible discussions can become circular because we’re confined to the box of what the Bible says. When we have gone through it all we just start reiterating the same points again and again. Let’s agree to disgaree.
The Sabbath is required.