Do we know how Yeshua lived his life?

[Stan_the_Man]

Let me ask you this, can you fit your understanding of Luke 16:16 in context with mat. 5:17-18? I would love to see how. Oh and keep in mind to pick just one word from Mat. to build your thesis doesn't work.

Jesus specifically stated that the Gospel of the Kingdom was taught starting with John the Baptist.

So, I'm going with Jesus NOT being a liar and knowing what He's talking about.

If we read all of Mark 2 we find that there is a vary real possibility, Yeshua was in Levies house.
As for John 1 there is no mention of a house at all. However as is made clear through out the gospels He was always on the move.
As to your idea that He had to keep working in Joseph's business, please show any Biblical text that backs this idea. Beside it doesn't really matter if He had a house or not, that holds no barring on His teachings, or faith.

Mark 2:15, and John 1:38,39 said He had a house.

He lived by faith all His life without sin, so if anybody ever deserved to be blessed in ALL areas of their lives including financially, it was Jesus Christ.

Up until He went in to ministry we know He worked as the Bible tells us if one doesn't work they shouldn't eat (2 Thessalonians 3:10) so you can figure out if He as the first born son took over His father's business which is customary with the descendants of Abraham or if He worked some place else

None the less, everything He put His hand to prospered because He was more blessed of God than any other man that ever walked on this earth.

 

[Obedience]

This topic is completely beside the point.So what exactly have you learned from the life of Jesus?

 

[MarcoftheTruth]

True it does. In fact last night I was convicted in my heart for the way I was trying to do things. More or less reminded that I not in a class room, and the same manner of teachings simply doesn't apply here. So you will see a change in how I conduct my self here. Though I will not change the fact that I will call out anyone that wishes to twist what a person said into something it never was. Just as I will make it clear if anyone says one thing, then turns around to say the opposite.
I am not sure who has asked HaShem to open my eyes to how I conduct my self, yet I do thank them, and pray a blessing on them.

It is written in the prophets: 'And they will all be taught of God.' Everyone having heard from the Father and having learned, comes to Me John 6:45

I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. Matthew 10:16

 

[Rainrider]

Jesus specifically stated that the Gospel of the Kingdom was taught starting with John the Baptist.

So, I'm going with Jesus NOT being a liar and knowing what He's talking about.







Mark 2:15, and John 1:38,39 said He had a house.

He lived by faith all His life without sin, so if anybody ever deserved to be blessed in ALL areas of their lives including financially, it was Jesus Christ.

Up until He went in to ministry we know He worked as the Bible tells us if one doesn't work they shouldn't eat (2 Thessalonians 3:10) so you can figure out if He as the first born son took over His father's business which is customary with the descendants of Abraham or if He worked some place else

None the less, everything He put His hand to prospered because He was more blessed of God than any other man that ever walked on this earth.

Nice dodge.

 

[The_old_guy]

Is it now. In all my threads I find one thing to hold true. That being that the people that post in them hold almost no understanding of Him. More often than not, they wish to use Paul to argue against the Teachings of Yeshua. I think a study on the man is something that has been neglected by too many. After all was it not life and teachings not intended to show us how to live?

We come to know him in the gospels by his own actions and teachings and by those in the whole Bible.

 

[Stan_the_Man]

Nice dodge.

I do not drive Chrysler products.

 

[Inquisitor]

As you have given all non-answers to my direct question I really think you are trying to bate me into an argument. Yet I am will to play along.
Lets look at this New covenant from a Biblical view.

Jer 31:31¶Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

We find the same wording in Heb. 8:8-10. There is nothing here to say the Law was removed, just written in a different place, so that everyone knows it.
Did you know that the Abrahamic covenant is a blood covenant? One thing most people over look is that Abraham walked in the covenant that was pasted down to all his descendants. As a blood covenant it can't be removed. Doing so would make any hope of salvation impossible. How? For us to be given salvation it must come from haShem, and if He lied He sinned. As we know sin can only be forgiven in a spiritual manner from one that is without sin. As we should know HaShem is Holy, as His words are Holy.
One other thing that must be considered is Mat.5:17-18. Any time we wish to teach the Word, the first thing we MUST do is keep all scripture in agreement. If we look at one passage and it seems to nullify any other then the one useing said passage in said manner is wrong.

Perhaps you did not read my previous post?

Of course the answer is yes

If the old covenant (Exodus 24) was replaced by the new covenant, then of course, the book of the law is void.

The old covenant was based on the book of the law (Exodus 24).

Jesus fulfilled the promise of the Abrahamic Covenant, all nations were blessed through Abraham's seed.

May I ask whether you believe that Jesus has fulfilled the old covenant?

 

[Obedience]

This topic is completely beside the point.So what exactly have you learned from the life of Jesus?
Guys, meaningless arguments have no knowledge.The most of debate comes from arrogance.
So what exactly did you learn from Jesus?

 

[Stan_the_Man]

So what exactly have you learned from the life of Jesus?

I learned I should own my own home!

 

[Obedience]

I learned I should own my own home!

You will have it.

The Gospel of John
14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
14:4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

 

[Stan_the_Man]

I learned I should own my own home, now in this life!

God meets my needs according to His riches in glory, not according to this mess down here.

 

[Obedience]

I learned I should own my own home, now in this life!

God meets my needs according to His riches in glory, not according to this mess down here.

Why do you think is not this life?
Where do you think Jesus is?Isn't it in you?

 

[Stan_the_Man]

Why do you think is not this life?
Where do you think Jesus is?Isn't it in you?

That's all jumbled up.

Can you type out your thoughts more coherently?

 

[Obedience]

That's all jumbled up.

Can you type out your thoughts more coherently?

Of course.
Jesus is God.We are the temple of God.God living in us.
that where I am, there ye may be also.

 

[vassal]

The only reference to Yeshua's teaching is when He was answering the questions put to Him by the Scribes and Pharisees. His youth is mostly unknew to us. There are some theories out there though I wouldn't place a lot of credence in them.
However they do come from people that know way more about life back then than I hold. If you like I will place it here, and you can decide from there.
It is thought that from the list of given that Yeshua was teaching about the Law. As that was the top subject in the temple. However the exact nature, and topic are not know. This came from a friend of mine that is a member of the Sanhedrin. He spent his life in study of the sages, as well parts of the N.T. Though he wouldn't want that to get out. I know this doesn't help with what your asking, sorry. I am just not one to speculate with so little to go on.

thank you , it does help. I have noticed that in the gospels Jesus mentions the commandments mostly, he was teaching them as we can read and I think it is a major part of his gospel as it reads "Repent for the Kingdom he heaven is at hand". To repent, one must know what is sin, the 10 commandments or the moral law served that purpose. To me from scripture the commandments ate set apart, they were put inside the ark of the covenant, they will never pass.

Blessings.

 

[vassal]

What does it mean to believe in Jesus? Is just knowing who he is sufficient? here is what Jesus says to his true believers, those of us who truly love him will do so;

Build Your House on the Rock
Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Luk 6:47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
Luk 6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
Luk 6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

Blessings

 

[Rainrider]

Jesus specifically stated that the Gospel of the Kingdom was taught starting with John the Baptist.

So, I'm going with Jesus NOT being a liar and knowing what He's talking about.







Mark 2:15, and John 1:38,39 said He had a house.

He lived by faith all His life without sin, so if anybody ever deserved to be blessed in ALL areas of their lives including financially, it was Jesus Christ.

Up until He went in to ministry we know He worked as the Bible tells us if one doesn't work they shouldn't eat (2 Thessalonians 3:10) so you can figure out if He as the first born son took over His father's business which is customary with the descendants of Abraham or if He worked some place else

None the less, everything He put His hand to prospered because He was more blessed of God than any other man that ever walked on this earth.

Good to know you understand that Yeshua isn't a liar. So with that in mind, when He tells us the Law will not pass until heaven and earth are done away,

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

From this passage one has to admit that He is saying the Law still stands. Just as the passage before hand is clear on that. So let me brake it down for you.

Mat 5:17¶Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

To many times I have see that people look at this passage, and the only thing is see is the word FULFIL. That word seem to erase the rest of the passage. Now if we were to look at the full passage here is what we find.
The following is not intended to replace TRUE SCRIPTURE.

Don't go thinking that I am here to repel the Law, or remove any prophecy. That isn't why I came. I came to give you a better understanding of them, and to fulfil them in there rightful time.
As we know not all propfecy has been fulfilled to date. Though we are in a time when we see prophecy being fulfilled at an astounding rate.
When we see that Yeshua felt the need to follow this up with 18, so that we may see that they will stand until the end of this earth,. It should become clear that they still hold the same purpose today as they did the day they were given. In fact when one talks of sin they are talking of violations of the Law. This is backed by

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
And
1Jo 3:4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

[Stan_the_Man]

So with that in mind, when He tells us the Law will not pass until heaven and earth are done away,

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 

[Rainrider]

It is written in the prophets: 'And they will all be taught of God.' Everyone having heard from the Father and having learned, comes to Me John 6:45

I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. Matthew 10:16

LOL We have a running jock on this. Never go into wolf country unarmed.

 

[Rainrider]

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

I am going to comite what some say is the greatest blaspheme of all. We are looking at Yeshua, His life and teaching, I don't care what Paul may have to say, unless it is seen in light of Yeshua's teachings. When you try to use one passage to remove the teachings of another, you loss the true meaning of both.