Discussion on the End Times
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The Church Present On Earth Won't Be Deceived, Nor (Forced) As You Falsely Claim.
(He Causeth All)?
The Holy Bible clearly describes the word (Causeth) as deceiving those who receive the mark and worshipping the image, no force is used as you (Falsely) claim
(Deception Not Force)
Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Revelation 13:16KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
(He Causeth All)?
The Holy Bible clearly describes the word (Causeth) as deceiving those who receive the mark and worshipping the image, no force is used as you (Falsely) claim
(Deception Not Force)
Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Revelation 13:16KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Your claims of a pre-trib rapture seen the 7th/last Trump 1 Corinthians 15:52-54, 1 Thess 4:14-17?
Your claim is nothing more than the second coming, last day resurrection, when death is swallowed up in victory,(The End)
The Trumpet Guy Is Right, Your Claim Is Destroyed, You Cant Bait And Switch, My Eyes Are Open To Your Sleight Of Hand
Your claim is nothing more than the second coming, last day resurrection, when death is swallowed up in victory,(The End)
The Trumpet Guy Is Right, Your Claim Is Destroyed, You Cant Bait And Switch, My Eyes Are Open To Your Sleight Of Hand
Hopeless confusion on this thread.
I believe that soon we will all know the truth of God's plans for our future. Some will be very embarrassed when their false teachings are shown to be so wrong.
My suggestion to all, is to be ready for dramatic changes coming and hold fast to your faith whatever happens.
I believe that soon we will all know the truth of God's plans for our future. Some will be very embarrassed when their false teachings are shown to be so wrong.
My suggestion to all, is to be ready for dramatic changes coming and hold fast to your faith whatever happens.
Your claims of a pre-trib rapture seen the 7th/last Trump 1 Corinthians 15:52-54, 1 Thess 4:14-17?
Your claim is nothing more than the second coming, last day resurrection, when death is swallowed up in victory,(The End)
The Trumpet Guy Is Right, Your Claim Is Destroyed, You Cant Bait And Switch, My Eyes Are Open To Your Sleight Of Hand
Your claim is nothing more than the second coming, last day resurrection, when death is swallowed up in victory,(The End)
The Trumpet Guy Is Right, Your Claim Is Destroyed, You Cant Bait And Switch, My Eyes Are Open To Your Sleight Of Hand
Your assertion is that when we see a "pool", a "lamb " or a "boat" it can only be the same item you want it to be.
The last trump is blown every year at the feast of trumpets.
As seen below, Noah entered the ark, the world population was destroyed by water.
Lot left Sodom and it rained Fire and (Destroyed Them All)
The Holy Bible (Clearly) teaches that when Jesus Returns/Reveals the church is raptured/removed as Lot was, as the entire world population left is destroyed by fire.
You don't believe (Destroyed Them All) at the revealing of Jesus Christ, you believe mortal life continues in a Millennium on this earth,(False)
(Destroyed Them All)
Luke 17:26-30KJV
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
Lot left Sodom and it rained Fire and (Destroyed Them All)
The Holy Bible (Clearly) teaches that when Jesus Returns/Reveals the church is raptured/removed as Lot was, as the entire world population left is destroyed by fire.
You don't believe (Destroyed Them All) at the revealing of Jesus Christ, you believe mortal life continues in a Millennium on this earth,(False)
(Destroyed Them All)
Luke 17:26-30KJV
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
Lol
We both agree Jesus returns after the 7 yr trib.
The debate is the rapture.
YOU NEED JESUS depicting a post judgement removal
You have no such dynamic.
Jesus framed noah and that dynamic "before the flood"
Try again.
We both agree Jesuscreturns with the saints
You know,kinda like noah returning BACK TO EARTH....AFTER.... the flood.
Vivid vivid pretrib rapture picture painted by Jesus.
We both agree Jesus returns after the 7 yr trib.
The debate is the rapture.
YOU NEED JESUS depicting a post judgement removal
You have no such dynamic.
Jesus framed noah and that dynamic "before the flood"
Try again.
We both agree Jesuscreturns with the saints
You know,kinda like noah returning BACK TO EARTH....AFTER.... the flood.
Vivid vivid pretrib rapture picture painted by Jesus.
Look at the 7th trump.
Scene in heaven,rewards are given to the saints and patriarchs.
In heaven....DURING THE 7 YR TRIB.
Bema seat depicted. In heaven
I never really noticed that before.
Thanks.
The more we study,the more it is revealed that the rapture is pretrib.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Scene in heaven,rewards are given to the saints and patriarchs.
In heaven....DURING THE 7 YR TRIB.
Bema seat depicted. In heaven
I never really noticed that before.
Thanks.
The more we study,the more it is revealed that the rapture is pretrib.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Nothing below Shows a pre-trib rapture as you Falsely claim
At the 7th Angel/Last Trump, the eternal begins, (He Shall Reign For Ever And Ever) who you trying to kid, (Yourself)
Revelation 11:12-15KJV
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
At the 7th Angel/Last Trump, the eternal begins, (He Shall Reign For Ever And Ever) who you trying to kid, (Yourself)
Revelation 11:12-15KJV
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.