Did you all know that there are three heavens

[pjharrison]

Since the principle of speaking about things we know are have seen, I won't comment other than to say suggest a couple passages that apparently you missed which as a result has you in enmity of.

• Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. Deut 4:35
• Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else. Deut 4:39

If Jesus called Peter, Satan then you saying Peter was the morning star?

Isaiah 14:12 12How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
He wasn't talking about Peter here.

 

[Zmouth]

I answered the question of the 2 men and the book! If you can't "see" that? Is not my fault, nor problem!

Well, I do realize that not answering a question is an answer. Which simply means a lack of substance for ones hope which is why the lack of response.

As for the "rest" of your "reply?"

You are nothing more then a pigeon playing chess! Knocking over all the pieces, shitting on the board, strutting around thinking and acting like, its won!

Meaning, as of this last response from you? I'd have to care about what you thought of me, to take offense! As it seems obvious, you are happy with whoever it is that's playing "ping pong" with your brain, in your unintelligible remarks. To the which, I have none interest in "playing" your game, or whoever's game it is you are playing!

I was hoping you weren't a scorner but apparently to my shame I was wrong.

 

[Zmouth]

Isaiah 14:12 12How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
He wasn't talking about Peter here.

Jesus was demonstrating that there was no supernatural being called Satan, but rather satan is simply the mindset of a person
that is contrary to the will of God.

 

[pjharrison]

Jesus was demonstrating that there was no supernatural being called Satan, but rather satan is simply the mindset of a person
that is contrary to the will of God.

There is definitely a Satan, that's a fact.

 

[posthuman]

Jesus was demonstrating that there was no supernatural being called Satan, but rather satan is simply the mindset of a person
that is contrary to the will of God.

what is Jesus doing in Matthew 4:1-11?
going insane?

 

[NayborBear]

The chapter of Isaiah 14: is about the king of Babylon, he is influenced by satan. It's speaking of how satan have laid low the nations. Babylon was on the earth way after creation.

In verse 4 of this same chapter of Isaiah 14, you will read that Isaiah is taking up this "proverb", AGAINST the "KING of CONFUSION" aka "BABYLON!" And, not a "flesh and blood actual King!"

It's actually a "story" concerning the ENDING of "beezelbub/lucifer/satan/anti-christ (aka Assyria)" reign on earth!

Which sounds "eerily familiar" to what Paul was writing to the Thessalonians. Where Paul was speaking of what many people "erroneously" consider the "rapture of the church." Where/when, the "man of sin" is exposed/revealed.

Same thing here, you posted concerning Ezekiel's taking up a lament in chapter 28 upon the "King of Tyre" aka "Tyrus", or "Rock!"...Yeah...The FALSE Rock!

11 The word of the Lord came to me: 12 “Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘You were the seal of perfection,
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald,
topaz, onyx and jasper,
lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.
Your settings and mountings[c] were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.
14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.
16 Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.
17 Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;

So? Why cannot both, or each, be a "proverb and a lament" taken to each "Flesh King" in your postings, and, an "Holy Witness" AGAINST the "synagogue of satan" that each of these "kings were, or were duped into participating in, and/or, building upon? "SIMULTANEOUSLY, At the Same time?"

Much like?
Matthew 10 (Jesus teaching)
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Just "connecting" some dots.

 

[NayborBear]

Well, I do realize that not answering a question is an answer. Which simply means a lack of substance for ones hope which is why the lack of response.



I was hoping you weren't a scorner but apparently to my shame I was wrong.

Always shall I "scorn" confusion, and the confuser, when it happens upon my door!

 

[Zmouth]

what is Jesus doing in Matthew 4:1-11?
going insane?

So who was Jesus talking to in these two verses? Man or a supernatural being?

• "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan" Luke 4:8
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• "...he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan:" Mark 8:33

Supernatural? But of course whosoever sins is of the devil so we know what they like to do right?

So you dismiss that what is written in the OT regarding the LORD being the God of heaven above and earth below; there being none else than the Spirit of truth. But it isn't what one reads that defiles a man it is the lies that the speak that defiles them.

So Satan told Jesus the following, then considering the following can you explain the verse in the spoiler

• And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Matt 4:9
• And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. Luke 4:6

Spoiler: Posthuman

All things are delivered to me of my Father: Luke 10:22

 

[NayborBear]

Jesus was demonstrating that there was no supernatural being called Satan, but rather satan is simply the mindset of a person
that is contrary to the will of God.

Oh MY! I see I have provoked "it", into exposing itself!

 

[pjharrison]

In verse 4 of this same chapter of Isaiah 14, you will read that Isaiah is taking up this "proverb", AGAINST the "KING of CONFUSION" aka "BABYLON!" And, not a "flesh and blood actual King!"

It's actually a "story" concerning the ENDING of "beezelbub/lucifer/satan/anti-christ (aka Assyria)" reign on earth!

Which sounds "eerily familiar" to what Paul was writing to the Thessalonians. Where Paul was speaking of what many people "erroneously" consider the "rapture of the church." Where/when, the "man of sin" is exposed/revealed.

Same thing here, you posted concerning Ezekiel's taking up a lament in chapter 28 upon the "King of Tyre" aka "Tyrus", or "Rock!"...Yeah...The FALSE Rock!

11 The word of the Lord came to me: 12 “Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘You were the seal of perfection,
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald,
topaz, onyx and jasper,
lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.
Your settings and mountings[c] were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.
14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.
16 Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.
17 Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;

So? Why cannot both, or each, be a "proverb and a lament" taken to each "Flesh King" in your postings, and, an "Holy Witness" AGAINST the "synagogue of satan" that each of these "kings were, or were duped into participating in, and/or, building upon? "SIMULTANEOUSLY, At the Same time?"

Much like?
Matthew 10 (Jesus teaching)
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Just "connecting" some dots.

Satan still rules the earth. In those verses it was talking about the king of Babylon, being lead by satan. He was the one who ruled over the nation. Satan was the one who was a cherub in the Garden of Eden, and who was thrown down to the earth. Satan was thrown down, before the king of Babylon brought down the nations.

 

[Zmouth]

There is definitely a Satan, that's a fact.

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. 1 John 3:7

And those who are of their father the devil were liars who abode not in the truth. Doesn't prove that Satan is real for fact, but it does tells us the real fact about those who believe in him.

 

[Zmouth]

Always shall I "scorn" confusion, and the confuser, when it happens upon my door!

You won't even answer a question, so scorn away.

 

[pjharrison]

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. 1 John 3:7

And those who are of their father the devil were liars who abode not in the truth. Doesn't prove that Satan is real for fact, but it does tells us the real fact about those who believe in him.

Luke 11:14
And He was casting out a demon, and it was mute; when the demon had gone out, the mute man spoke; and the crowds were amazed.
Their real.

 

[Zmouth]

Luke 11:14
And He was casting out a demon, and it was mute; when the demon had gone out, the mute man spoke; and the crowds were amazed.
Their real.

Sure it wasn't a dumb spirit? The truth can cast them out

 

[NayborBear]

Satan still rules the earth. In those verses it was talking about the king of Babylon, being lead by satan. He was the one who ruled over the nation. Satan was the one who was a cherub in the Garden of Eden, and who was thrown down to the earth. Satan was thrown down, before the king of Babylon brought down the nations.

You having said that. Means, satan, was on earth AFTER the "creation!"
But, how could this be? If there were not SOMETHING from SOMEWHERE, from SOME TIME PAST? For satan to be "kicked OUT OF?"

 

[NayborBear]

You won't even answer a question, so scorn away.

No one More DANGEROUS, then a "deceived man!"

 

[pjharrison]

You having said that. Means, satan, was on earth AFTER the "creation!"
But, how could this be? If there were not SOMETHING from SOMEWHERE, from SOME TIME PAST? For satan to be "kicked OUT OF?"

Yes he was in the garden. He deceived Eve. He was kicked out of heaven. He may have even been kicked out of heaven before he deceived Eve, because of his pride. Because when he deceived Eve he was a sepent

 

[NayborBear]

Yes he was in the garden. He deceived Eve. He was kicked out of heaven. He may have even been kicked out of heaven before he deceived Eve, because of his pride. Because when he deceived Eve he was a sepent

(sighs)

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheShepherdsChapel

 

[pjharrison]

You having said that. Means, satan, was on earth AFTER the "creation!"
But, how could this be? If there were not SOMETHING from SOMEWHERE, from SOME TIME PAST? For satan to be "kicked OUT OF?"

Yes he was in the garden. He deceived Eve. He was kicked out of heaven. He may have even been kicked out of heaven before he deceived Eve, because of his pride. Because when he deceived Eve he was a serpent. When he was created and in heaven he was a cherub and he was created to play music.

 

[pjharrison]

Yes he was in the garden. He deceived Eve. He was kicked out of heaven. He may have even been kicked out of heaven before he deceived Eve, because of his pride. Because when he deceived Eve he was a serpent. When he was created and in heaven he was a cherub and he was created to play music.

We're not going to agree so let's just agree to disagree. Because you have your interpretation and I have mine.