Did mind–body dualism exist before original sin?

[pittsburghjoe]

This cesspool is a test. This is not what God wanted for us.

 

[oyster67]

The point of this thread is that Heaven has nothing to do with physicality. You can still look like a body ..you just won't have entropy. ..you will be waves.

Okey dokey then. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds for PBJ dude.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

What good is an infinite heaven with anything physical?

 

[oyster67]

This cesspool is a test. This is not what God wanted for us.

The Garden of Eden was not a cesspool until grandpa Adam dorked it all up with his disobedience.

 

[oyster67]

What good is an infinite heaven with anything physical?

What good is an infinite heaven without anything physical?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

What good is a present state to an infinite heaven?

A present state is docherence/physicality. It is the reason we are here in this fallen reality.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

*decoherence

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Greed and Lust won't be a thing anymore in Heaven ..right? Well, how is that possible if there are still physical objects?

This physical place is sin. That is why it is possible right now.

The fall put us in this physical place ..why would we have the original sin in Heaven? Why would the choice be right there when Jesus already dealt with it for us?

 

[Magenta]

Jesus needed to be physical while still here on Earth. Why would humans need it after the Earth is done?

Jesus bodily ascended to heaven...

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Yes, so? We are not Jesus.

 

[Magenta]

Yes, so? We are not Jesus.

Do you deny His physicality in heaven? Sure seems like you do.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

God can do whatever he wants. Us peasants will not be physical.

 

[Magenta]

God can do whatever he wants. Us peasants will not be physical.

Right. So stop talking like you know things you do not have any way of knowing.

And which have zero Biblical basis. Vain philosophies.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Does "For our sake he made him to be sin" mean Jesus was made in a way that could interact with this fallen reality?
2 Corinthians 5:21

 

[Magenta]

Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known.
But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as he is.

 

[Magenta]

Does "For our sake he made him to be sin" mean Jesus was made in a way that could interact with this fallen reality?
2 Corinthians 5:21

Jeepers. God has always been able to interact with our fallen reality.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Pretty sure God can make himself compatible to any scenario.

It's weird that you can't see what this would do to wake the masses. You would rather them burn than consider it.

 

[Magenta]

Pretty sure God can make himself compatible to any scenario.

It's weird that you can't see what this would do to wake the masses. You would rather them burn than consider it.

False accusation. And you are delusional.

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing from the Word of God.

Not your vain, useless philosophies.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You know how people with near death experiences can account for themselves in Heaven? Do you think they are physical when their body is temporarily dead on Earth?

 

[Magenta]

You know how people with near death experiences can account for themselves in Heaven?
Do you think they are physical when their body is temporarily dead on Earth?

“I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven.
Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. And I know
that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows—
was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.”

Paul is speaking of himself, and says, "No one is permitted to tell."