Daniel Chapter two

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Ten kingdom nation? I don't understand! You have a succession of nations or world powers and after that you get God's kingdom?
I should have used ten kings; ( also known as 10 horns and the ten toes made of iron and clay ), instead of ten nations but each king will rule a land mass. The prophet Daniel sets the stage for understanding this kingdom.

Dan. 2:40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever

Daniel continues in Chapter 7:

24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. 25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Antichrist is the little horn that arises among the ten Dan 11

Dan 11:43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites.

Dan 7:8 “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it.

Rev 17:12 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.

I just wanted to show a progression of ten kings, toes, horns--There are other scriptures but these are the ones that came to mind
 
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Wanted to add--the little horn becomes the eighth king after conquering 3 of the kings from the ten--Egypt, Libya and Cush

Rev 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
 
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So what about 1 Thessalonians 5:1-4:

« But of the times and the seasons, brethen, ye have no need that I write unto you. »
« For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. »
« For when they shall say, Peace and safety ; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child ; and they shall not escape. »
« But ye, brethen, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. »
Israel shall escape the turmoil and devastation the world will endure during the first 1260 days of the tribulation when more than 4 billion of the world's population are killed due to wars, famine , plagues, ect.

More than anything Israel wants peace and security and the antichrist will fulfill that role. When the day of the Lord comes this ends the peace and security. He will be very christlike and because of his protection and deeds they will be looking at him as the messiah. He will even bring home the jews living abroad and it will be like the days of Noah and Lot, building, planting, marriage, ect. Imagine someone like him allowing the temple to be rebuilt, which will I believe part of the covenant he brings forth. For the temple must be rebuilt for the antichrist to take his seat in temple of God.
 
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Ten kingdom nation? I don't understand! You have a succession of nations or world powers and after that you get God's kingdom?
He ten toes are ten kings. Ten kingdoms.

Out of this ten will arise one. That one will be the antichrist. He is the ruler of the people who is to come who will place an abomination of desolation in the holy place of a temple in jerusalem, and declair himself to be the messiah. And go to war with the saints.

it is him who will be destroyed personally by Christ at his return.
 
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He ten toes are ten kings. Ten kingdoms.

Out of this ten will arise one. That one will be the antichrist. He is the ruler of the people who is to come who will place an abomination of desolation in the holy place of a temple in jerusalem, and declair himself to be the messiah. And go to war with the saints.

it is him who will be destroyed personally by Christ at his return.
Ok, You want to know about the Kingdom of God, not the kingdom of the antichrist. Well before the day is over you will have me stoned-lol and on my birthday too!!!

1 Thess 5;2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

Ok, first notice the day of the lord and the thief in the night when nobody sees the Lord. This is far different than his coming as everyone sees the Lord at the end of the tribulation when He doesnt come as a thief in the night.

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Now there is no resurrection at the end of the tribulation, but the sheep/goat judgement in which is determined who enters the Kingdom of God in flesh and blood. Those at the sheep/goat judgement are all unrighteous.

16 Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.
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The Day of the Lord is where we who believe by faith are taken, both dead and alive, both jew and gentile. From this day forward everyone is unrighteous. I also said this will happen at the 1335th day of the Tribulation during which time the 10 kings are mentioned which the antichrist will rule.

Now for the real shocker, you were shown from Daniel the Kingdom of God would come during the time of these 10 kings, and in Rev. 11 the Kingdom of God had come during the blowing of the 7th Trump, before the bowl judgements.

The Day of the Lord is the beginning of the 1000 year reign of christ, not at the end of the Tribulation. The timetable set forth in scriptures for the antichrist is not the same as the Lord has set for himself. Why the bowl judgements are so awful, the antichrist is reigning inside the reign of the kingdom of God. I am going to stop here to see if you can grasp what I am saying. I am telling you something new, never heard before, but what I have said is why most cannot understand the scriptures.
 

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Would it be possible for you to recapitulate in a chronological order? it would be great:
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So everybody can follow properly and check it!
 
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Would it be possible for you to recapitulate in a chronological order? it would be great:
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So many pieces, dont think I can do it on a chat site
 

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You could try piece by piece, some elements at a time, it would been even easier for everybody! I do do the same, chapter after chapter!
 
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Would it be possible for you to recapitulate in a chronological order? it would be great:
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I would maybe suggest you pick a topic from our discussion and tell each other what we see such as Day of the Lord or Sheep/goat judgement and go deep as to why there as no grace in this judgement and why the sheep were saved by works.
 

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Well, you started the subject, i have quite a lot to do with mine and i will have more to do!
 

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The European Union? But it has no army! It isn't a world power! What about England in the past with the biggest empire of all history and coming from it America: The USA are today's military world power? it has military bases all around the world!
Why do you think Biden and the liberals were allowed by God to Steal the Election? It is The Anti-Christs TIME NOW.

Germany, 4 EU states launch military reaction force initiative
https://www.dw.com › germany-4-eu-states-launch-mili...
Oct 21, 2021 — Germany and four members of the European Union have launched an initiative to establish a bloc-wide rapid reaction force for future military

EU seeks rapid response military force, two decades after first try
https://www.reuters.com › world › europe › eu-seeks-rapi...
May 5, 2021 — Fourteen European Union countries including Germany and France have proposed a rapid military response force that could intervene early in

Proposals for an EU army re-emerge after Afghan pullout
https://www.france24.com › France 24 › Europe
Sep 2, 2021 — European dismay over President Joe Biden's precipitous withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan has renewed calls for an EU military force.
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This is why ole CRA CRA is in the White House, Satan controls his Marxist minions who really run the White House, this man will never be reelected, but Satan needs this done NOW his tie is at hand NOW all he needs to set things in motion is 4 years, bring INFLATION, and bring the E.U. to the point where they see that they need a Standing Army. Biden's job is to bring down the world economies, to force the E.U. to gather an Army because of his being incompetent.

Thus the USA has to be diminished NOW. This is why all these strange things are happening in our nation, it is a spiritual battle. The E.U. will also get two other KEY BOOSTS by God who is allowing all this. The Gog and Magog war just before or just after the Rapture will see Russa, Iran, and Turkey's Armies destroyed by God which does what? Makes the E.U. AntiChrist path to Dominion much easier, of course. AND the Rev. 8 Mountain that is cast into the Sea (the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact) will destroy 1/3 of the world, and God is not going to destroy anything close to Israel where Jesus will set up his 1000 year reign, so where is this 1/3 going to be at? Just off the California Coastline, clear around the other side of the world, of course, the Apophis Asteroid will indeed hot on April 13, 2029, we can see everything going on points to this hitting the earth NOW.

So, when this Asteroid strikes, the whole Pacific Realm will be in chaos because it will cause tsunamis in the whole region, not just California. It will destroy 1/3 of the trees, 1/3 of the ships, 1/3 of the fresh waters via Nuclear Fallout from the Impact, and guess what, the 1/3 is telling us WHERE this Impact will take place, I actually thought about those and checked it, and was ASTONISHED tat the Pacific Ocean has exactly 1/3 of all the water on planet earth, AND North and South America combined (God didn't name them North and South, to Him they are ONE Landmass) are EXACTLY 1/3 of all the Landmass on this earth, so the 1/3 is God telling us where this Mountain/Asteroid is going to strike at. Thus the USA will be no more, and after the Rapture it won't be much anyway, IMHO, a bunch of athe9ist weirdos and some who missed the Rapture and repeat, but if 70 Million Christians leave the USA it will be in bad shape already, then after 3.5 years, when this Asteroid strikes, it will be no more as it was, and guess who knows this? Satan, and guess who hears Satan's voice? The Anti-Christ hears DARK SENTENCES (Riddles) as Dan. 8:23 says.

So, God will put a hook in Russia and her partner's mouths, then destroy their armies, God will ten devastate 1/3 of the world via His Judgment/Wrath, and Satan is whispering to the Anti-Chrst/E.U. leader/President WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT for the Day of the Lord, then GO FORTH amidst the chaos, (there will be no Russia, Turkish or Iranian Armies by that time AND the whole Pacific Realm will be in chaos) and Conquer Israel and THE MANY (as seen in Dan. 11:40-43) who are Lebanon, Jordan (all except the Petra/Bozrah region), Syria, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya, and Algeria. He conquers those he has AGREEMENTS with, he doesn't need t to conquer the whole world because 1/3 of the world is nigh uninhabitable according to God's Judgments. He conquers the "WHOLE WORLD" and all the PEOPLE just like Nebuchadnezzar and Alexander the Great did.............LOOK AT THIS FOR CONTEXT............

Daniel interprets the dream of God for Nebuchadnezzar and tells him he will rule over ALL MEN ON EARTH !!

Dan. 2:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.

And Daniel also says the 3rd Kingdom will conquer ALL THE EARTH ALSO !!

39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

And he even says Rome will subdue ALL THINGS !!

Dan. 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

But we know Nebuchadnezzar did not rule over ALL MEN on this earth, we know that Alexander the Great did not Conquer and rule overALL THE EARTH, and we know Rome did not subdue ALL THINGS........UNLESS......The Land/Earth being spoken of is the Mediterranean Sea Region, and no pretensions is ever made that the dreams are about the WHOLE WORLD, the Stature represents four kingdoms with one regenerating at the end times, and as Daniel 7 shows us, these Kingdoms all are in and around the Mediterranean Sea Region, thus they all arise out of the Great Sea (Mediterranean Sea). So, when Nebuchadnezzarconquers RULES OVER ALL THE PEOPLE it is about the Region being spoken of and when Alexander the Great Conquers ALL THE EARTH it's about the Land in the Mediterranean Sea Region, and when Rome likewise subdues the others and is the Grandest Beast in scale it is because Rome Conquers every square inch of the Mediteranean Coastline, unlike all the others. And the Anti-Chrst will do the same, as Dan. 11:40-43 shows us, ADD the E.U. and all of the rest of Mediterranean Sea Coastline, which Dan. 11:40-43 shows him conquering, andyou this have a HEAD that is HEALED from its Mortal Wound.
 

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Well, I will take time to have a careful look at what you have just written! But The EU will never be a military power like America, no chance, they disagree all the time! They will never be a political power, no chance, they disagree all the time! America is one nation , the EU will never be one nation!
 
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Well, I will take time to have a careful look at what you have just written! But The EU will never be a military power like America, no chance, they disagree all the time! They will never be a political power, no chance, they disagree all the time! America is one nation , the EU will never be one nation!
America has no or little role in end time events. This nation will be devastated IMO early in the seal judgements
 

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Maybe, but for the moment it's the political and military leader of this world!
 
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Maybe, but for the moment it's the political and military leader of this world!
Yep, Yep, Yep--Seems like the world getting ready for war
 

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So once again what about 1 Thessalonians 5:1-4 :
« But of the times and the seasons, brethen, ye have no need that i write unto you. »
« For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. »
« For when they shall say, Peace and safety ; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child ; and they shall not escape. »
« But ye, brethen, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. »
 
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So once again what about 1 Thessalonians 5:1-4 :
« But of the times and the seasons, brethen, ye have no need that i write unto you. »
« For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. »
« For when they shall say, Peace and safety ; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child ; and they shall not escape. »
« But ye, brethen, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. »
Reposted from #23

Israel shall escape the turmoil and devastation the world will endure during the first 1260 days of the tribulation when more than 4 billion of the world's population are killed due to wars, famine , plagues, ect.

More than anything Israel wants peace and security and the antichrist will fulfill that role the first 1260 days.. When the day of the Lord comes this ends the peace and security. He will be very christlike and because of his protection and deeds they will be looking at him as the messiah. He will even bring home the jews living abroad and it will be like the days of Noah and Lot, building, planting, marriage, ect. Imagine someone like him allowing the temple to be rebuilt, which will I believe part of the covenant he brings forth. For the temple must be rebuilt for the antichrist to take his seat in temple of God.

Adding--We should know the day
As I said before the thief in the night is speaking of the resurrection but at the end of the tribulation everyone will see him coming--Matthew 24:30 when he doesnt come as a thief
 

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Nebuchadnezzar has a dream and he wants the priests and the magicians and all those who have such a capacity to tell about his dream and the interpretation. Otherwide all of them will die. It is as simple as that ! They can’t trick the king ! So they answer the king saying that no one has such a capacity. So the king becomes angry and orders all the wise men of his kingdom to be killed. It means that Daniel and his companions are going to be killed. Learning that, daniel asks the king for time so he can interpret the king’s dream. Then he asks his three companions to pray God to get the dream and the interpretation. Finally Daniel goes to the king and tells him that God told him the dream and its interpretation. So Daniel becomes an important man in Babylon.
So everything seems to be ok for Daniel and his companions and they escape death !
Hi JLG,

Good topic. Now it seems to me that some people can`t count. There are 5, five, number FIVE Body parts to the Great Image.

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You are right it's important to be precise! The Facts indeed! Good