DANIEL CHAPTER ONE

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homwardbound

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- Check carefully!
- He came to a bad end too!
okay, God s a lover of the Soul not the flesh of anyone, but Son's for us on that cross to us
Who was/is the Son of David in the mysterious ways of God for us all to turn to God in our souls to see we are dead in flesh and be that way daily, at least this I see daily and not always remember it and that old man gets back in the way, yet standing in the grace to see and remain new in thanksgiving and praise, seeing by son all sin taken out of the way to have the relationship I now have wiht Father in love and mercy given me and all others too, that is to give to all, thank you
If I only love those that love me back, then I am a heathen as well am I not?
 

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- Then he takes bath-Sheba as his wife!

- Then David gets into big trouble for the rest of his life!
 

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okay, God s a lover of the Soul not the flesh of anyone, but Son's for us on that cross to us
Who was/is the Son of David in the mysterious ways of God for us all to turn to God in our souls to see we are dead in flesh and be that way daily, at least this I see daily and not always remember it and that old man gets back in the way, yet standing in the grace to see and remain new in thanksgiving and praise, seeing by son all sin taken out of the way to have the relationship I now have wiht Father in love and mercy given me and all others too, that is to give to all, thank you
If I only love those that love me back, then I am a heathen as well am I not?
- When you look at faithful servants of Yah.weh such as Job, Samuel, Daniel and others, they kept faithful all their lives!

- That's a big difference!

- And incredible examples for us!
 

homwardbound

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- In 2 Samuel 11, we are told about his adultery with Bath-Sheba!

- And he organizes the murder of her husband!

- Then he takes B
He repented once confronted, yes hid, then admitted and God chose to see him as a person after his own heart to turn from sin by admitting his sins. Hey I just went down the road and a car almost hit me, I got angry, and there be the possibility of me to sin in anger. will you, will I or you reading this here too? sin and kill or harm that other person?
Your choice, free choice, remembering God has free choice too
I choose to trust God for any correction God gives me not myself or others ever either anymore, God only Thank you
 

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- When you look at faithful servants of Yah.weh such as Job, Samuel, Daniel and others, they kept faithful all their lives!

- That's a big difference!

- And incredible examples for us!
Especially Jesus, "The Art of fighting without fighting" Then risen that made an open spectacle to those that got him killed. Col 1 and 2 thank you
What is done is done, this will not ever change it is done, he is risen where new life is given to those that will not deny God or do believe God, as in the book of job, your name in the place of job, y'all
Your choice, thanks
 

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He repented once confronted, yes hid, then admitted and God chose to see him as a person after his own heart to turn from sin by admitting his sins. Hey I just went down the road and a car almost hit me, I got angry, and there be the possibility of me to sin in anger. will you, will I or you reading this here too? sin and kill or harm that other person?
Your choice, free choice, remembering God has free choice too
I choose to trust God for any correction God gives me not myself or others ever either anymore, God only Thank you
- Yes, but he first commited adultery and second he killed a man to save his life and third he married the woman with whom he committed adultery!

- 2 Samuel 12 is clear about what David did and the consequences!

- Tamar was raped by Amnon!

- Amnon was killed by Absalom!

- Absalom revolted against David who had to flee for his own life!

- And he had relations with David's concubines!

- And he pursued David!

- Finally Joab killed Absalom!

- In 2 Samuel 24, David organized a census of Israel against Yah.weh's will!

- So Yah.weh gave him three options: seven years of famine, David would flee from his enemies for three months or three days of pestilence!

- David chose the pestilence and 70,000 Hebrews were killed!
 

homwardbound

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- Yes, but he first commited adultery and second he killed a man to save his life and third he married the woman with whom he committed adultery!

- 2 Samuel 12 is clear about what David did and the consequences!

- Tamar was raped by Amnon!

- Amnon was killed by Absalom!

- Absalom revolted against David who had to flee for his own life!

- And he had relations with David's concubines!

- And he pursued David!

- Finally Joab killed Absalom!

- In 2 Samuel 24, David organized a census of Israel against Yah.weh's will!

- So Yah.weh gave him three options: seven years of famine, David would flee from his enemies for three months or three days of pestilence!

- David chose the pestilence and 70,000 Hebrews were killed!
Therefore, are you saying David did not have a contrite heart, is that what you are saying between God and himself? if, You are saying by what he had done afterwards posted here by you, he can't be forgiven by God or have the contrite heart to want to do what is right in the midst of all the other people doing wrong without a care for it, just selfish. Are you stopped from ever sinning ever again? I have no right to condemn anyone. God chose not to condemn us through Son for us. To be new in this life here of ill repute on earth. Where people continue in war and arguing over things.

If So, in your view, then we all are dead, there is no chance for anyone. Yes all are as dead in the physical sense, that is why Son died for us to replace our physical death with his Spirit life to get given us from Father to see truth and do truth over all the errors of this world we are in, where all die. God desires to save our Souls over our deserved death of the flesh. Hope yours is saved by God. It cannot be saved by me or anyone else but God and Son as Won for you.

However, That be correct we all have sinned absolutely, Unfortunately, So maybe ask God for a change of mind set for you to not do others wrong, willingly learn not to, as can only happen to people with contrite hearts. those get born new in God's Spirit and Truth and stop those awful things of harming others for the self gain attitudes of the first born nature. Even if those awful things might be righteous, to you. We all have the free choice given us. God has free choice also
Therefore

Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

This I stand in reverence to the most high God. seeing


Psalm 82:1-7

King James Version

82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
 

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Therefore, are you saying David did not have a contrite heart, is that what you are saying between God and himself? if, You are saying by what he had done afterwards posted here by you, he can't be forgiven by God or have the contrite heart to want to do what is right in the midst of all the other people doing wrong without a care for it, just selfish. Are you stopped from ever sinning ever again? I have no right to condemn anyone. God chose not to condemn us through Son for us. To be new in this life here of ill repute on earth. Where people continue in war and arguing over things.

If So, in your view, then we all are dead, there is no chance for anyone. Yes all are as dead in the physical sense, that is why Son died for us to replace our physical death with his Spirit life to get given us from Father to see truth and do truth over all the errors of this world we are in, where all die. God desires to save our Souls over our deserved death of the flesh. Hope yours is saved by God. It cannot be saved by me or anyone else but God and Son as Won for you.

However, That be correct we all have sinned absolutely, Unfortunately, So maybe ask God for a change of mind set for you to not do others wrong, willingly learn not to, as can only happen to people with contrite hearts. those get born new in God's Spirit and Truth and stop those awful things of harming others for the self gain attitudes of the first born nature. Even if those awful things might be righteous, to you. We all have the free choice given us. God has free choice also
Therefore

Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

This I stand in reverence to the most high God. seeing


Psalm 82:1-7

King James Version

82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
- I just want to say that power corrupts!

- I just want to speak about a process!

- We are told about a faithful servant of Yah.weh!

- He couldn't even think about doing anything against Yah.weh!

- It was nonsense for him!

- Then he became king!

- Then corruption started to develop in his mind!

- We know he had many wives and concubines!

- Apparently it wasn't enough!

- He wanted more especially the wife of somebody else!

- So he sent for her!

- Then he had relations with her!

- Then he was afraid for his life!

- So he had her husband killed!

- But it wasn't enough!

- He also had a census of Israel against Yah.weh's will!

- Now think about Moses!

- Yah.weh chose him to lead Israel, a people who kept speaking against Yah.weh and Moses!

- Because of Moses, Yah.weh didn't destroy Israel!

- He never did anything against Yah.weh!

- He only made a mistake because he was fed up with Israel's attitude!

- And he couldn't get into the promised land!

- At the difference of human kings, Moses never let corruption get into his mind!

- And he was forbidden to get into the promised land!

- Now think about today!

- CORRUPTION IS EVERYWHERE!

- Maybe I should remind you of the words Yah.weh told David through Nathan!
 

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2 Samuel 12:7:

Then Nathan
נָתָ֛ן (nā·ṯān)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 5416: Nathan -- the name of a number of Israelites

said
וַיֹּ֧אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

to
אֶל־ (’el-)
Preposition
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

David,
דָּוִ֖ד (dā·wiḏ)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 1732: David -- perhaps 'beloved one', a son of Jesse

“You
אַתָּ֣ה (’at·tāh)
Pronoun - second person masculine singular
Strong's 859: Thou and thee, ye and you

are that man!
הָאִ֑ישׁ (hā·’îš)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 376: A man as an individual, a male person

This is what
כֹּה־ (kōh-)
Adverb
Strong's 3541: Like this, thus, here, now

the LORD,
יְהוָ֜ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

the God
אֱלֹהֵ֣י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of Israel,
יִשְׂרָאֵ֗ל (yiś·rā·’êl)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3478: Israel -- 'God strives', another name of Jacob and his desc

says:
אָמַ֨ר (’ā·mar)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

‘I
אָנֹכִ֞י (’ā·nō·ḵî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 595: I

anointed
מְשַׁחְתִּ֤יךָֽ (mə·šaḥ·tî·ḵā)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - first person common singular | second person masculine singular
Strong's 4886: To rub with oil, to anoint, to consecrate, to paint

you king
לְמֶ֙לֶךְ֙ (lə·me·leḵ)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 4428: A king

over
עַל־ (‘al-)
Preposition
Strong's 5921: Above, over, upon, against

Israel,
יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל (yiś·rā·’êl)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3478: Israel -- 'God strives', another name of Jacob and his desc

and I
וְאָנֹכִ֥י (wə·’ā·nō·ḵî)
Conjunctive waw | Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 595: I

delivered you
הִצַּלְתִּ֖יךָ (hiṣ·ṣal·tî·ḵā)
Verb - Hifil - Perfect - first person common singular | second person masculine singular
Strong's 5337: To strip, plunder, deliver oneself, be delivered, snatch away, deliver

from the hand
מִיַּ֥ד (mî·yaḏ)
Preposition-m | Noun - feminine singular construct
Strong's 3027: A hand

of Saul.
שָׁאֽוּל׃ (šā·’ūl)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 7586: Saul -- first king of Israel, also an Edomite and two Israelites
 

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2 Samuel 12:8

I gave
וָאֶתְּנָ֨ה (wā·’et·tə·nāh)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - first person common singular | third person feminine singular
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

your master’s
אֲדֹנֶ֗יךָ (’ă·ḏō·ne·ḵā)
Noun - masculine plural construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 113: Sovereign, controller

house to you
בֵּ֣ית (bêṯ)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 1004: A house

and your master’s
אֲדֹנֶ֙יךָ֙ (’ă·ḏō·ne·ḵā)
Noun - masculine plural construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 113: Sovereign, controller

wives
נְשֵׁ֤י (nə·šê)
Noun - feminine plural construct
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female

into your arms.
בְּחֵיקֶ֔ךָ (bə·ḥê·qe·ḵā)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 2436: The bosom

I gave
וָאֶתְּנָ֣ה (wā·’et·tə·nāh)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - first person common singular | third person feminine singular
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

you
לְךָ֔ (lə·ḵā)
Preposition | second person masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew

the house
בֵּ֥ית (bêṯ)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 1004: A house

of Israel
יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל (yiś·rā·’êl)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3478: Israel -- 'God strives', another name of Jacob and his desc

and Judah,
וִֽיהוּדָ֑ה (wî·hū·ḏāh)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3063: Judah -- 'praised', a son of Jacob, also the southern kingdom, also four Israelites

and if
וְאִ֨ם־ (wə·’im-)
Conjunctive waw | Conjunction
Strong's 518: Lo!, whether?, if, although, Oh that!, when, not

that was not enough,
מְעָ֔ט (mə·‘āṭ)
Adjective - masculine singular
Strong's 4592: A little, fewness, a few

I would have given
וְאֹסִ֥פָה (wə·’ō·si·p̄āh)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Conjunctive imperfect Cohortative - first person common singular
Strong's 3254: To add, augment

you
לְּךָ֖ (lə·ḵā)
Preposition | second person masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew

even more.
כָּהֵ֥נָּה (kā·hên·nāh)
Preposition-k | Pronoun - third person feminine plural
Strong's 2007: Themselves
 

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2 Samuel 12:9

Why
מַדּ֜וּעַ (mad·dū·a‘)
Interrogative
Strong's 4069: Why? for what reason?

then have you despised
בָּזִ֣יתָ ׀ (bā·zî·ṯā)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 959: To disesteem

the command
דְּבַ֣ר (də·ḇar)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 1697: A word, a matter, thing, a cause

of the LORD
יְהוָ֗ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

by doing
לַעֲשׂ֣וֹת (la·‘ă·śō·wṯ)
Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct
Strong's 6213: To do, make

evil
הָרַע֮ (hā·ra‘)
Article | Adjective - masculine singular
Strong's 7451: Bad, evil

in His sight?
בְּעֵינַי֒ (bə·‘ê·nay)
Preposition-b | Noun - cdc | first person common singular
Strong's 5869: An eye, a fountain

You struck down
הִכִּ֣יתָ (hik·kî·ṯā)
Verb - Hifil - Perfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 5221: To strike

Uriah
אוּרִיָּ֤ה (’ū·rî·yāh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 223: Uriah -- 'flame of Yah', the name of a Hittite and of two Israelites

the Hittite
הַֽחִתִּי֙ (ha·ḥit·tî)
Article | Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 2850: Hittite -- a Chittite

with the sword
בַחֶ֔רֶב (ḇa·ḥe·reḇ)
Preposition-b, Article | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 2719: Drought, a cutting instrument, as a, knife, sword

and took
לָקַ֥חְתָּ (lā·qaḥ·tā)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 3947: To take

his wife
אִשְׁתּ֔וֹ (’iš·tōw)
Noun - feminine singular construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female

as your own,
לְאִשָּׁ֑ה (lə·’iš·šāh)
Preposition-l | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female

for you have slain him
הָרַ֔גְתָּ (hā·raḡ·tā)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 2026: To smite with deadly intent

with the sword
בְּחֶ֖רֶב (bə·ḥe·reḇ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular construct
Strong's 2719: Drought, a cutting instrument, as a, knife, sword

of the Ammonites.
בְּנֵ֥י (bə·nê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 1121: A son
 

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2 Samuel 12:10

Now, therefore,
וְעַתָּ֗ה (wə·‘at·tāh)
Conjunctive waw | Adverb
Strong's 6258: At this time

the sword
חֶ֛רֶב (ḥe·reḇ)
Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 2719: Drought, a cutting instrument, as a, knife, sword

will never
לֹא־ (lō-)
Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

depart
תָס֥וּר (ṯā·sūr)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person feminine singular
Strong's 5493: To turn aside

from your house,
מִבֵּיתְךָ֖ (mib·bê·ṯə·ḵā)
Preposition-m | Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 1004: A house

because
עֵ֚קֶב (‘ê·qeḇ)
Conjunction
Strong's 6118: A heel, the last of anything, result, compensation, on account of

you have despised Me
בְזִתָ֔נִי (ḇə·zi·ṯā·nî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - second person masculine singular | first person common singular
Strong's 959: To disesteem

and have taken
וַתִּקַּ֗ח (wat·tiq·qaḥ)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 3947: To take

the wife
אֵ֙שֶׁת֙ (’ê·šeṯ)
Noun - feminine singular construct
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female

of Uriah
אוּרִיָּ֣ה (’ū·rî·yāh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 223: Uriah -- 'flame of Yah', the name of a Hittite and of two Israelites

the Hittite
הַחִתִּ֔י (ha·ḥit·tî)
Article | Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 2850: Hittite -- a Chittite

to be
לִהְי֥וֹת (lih·yō·wṯ)
Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

your own.’
לְאִשָּֽׁה׃ (lə·’iš·šāh)
Preposition-l | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female
 

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2 Samuel 12:11

This is what
כֹּ֣ה ׀ (kōh)
Adverb
Strong's 3541: Like this, thus, here, now

the LORD
יְהוָ֗ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

says:
אָמַ֣ר (’ā·mar)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

‘I will raise up
מֵקִ֨ים (mê·qîm)
Verb - Hifil - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 6965: To arise, stand up, stand

adversity
רָעָה֙ (rā·‘āh)
Adjective - feminine singular
Strong's 7451: Bad, evil

against you
עָלֶ֤יךָ (‘ā·le·ḵā)
Preposition | second person masculine singular
Strong's 5921: Above, over, upon, against

from your own house.
מִבֵּיתֶ֔ךָ (mib·bê·ṯe·ḵā)
Preposition-m | Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 1004: A house

Before your very eyes
לְעֵינֶ֔יךָ (lə·‘ê·ne·ḵā)
Preposition-l | Noun - cdc | second person masculine singular
Strong's 5869: An eye, a fountain

I will take
וְלָקַחְתִּ֤י (wə·lā·qaḥ·tî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 3947: To take

your wives
נָשֶׁ֙יךָ֙ (nā·še·ḵā)
Noun - feminine plural construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female

and give
וְנָתַתִּ֖י (wə·nā·ṯat·tî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

them to another,
לְרֵעֶ֑יךָ (lə·rê·‘e·ḵā)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 7453: Friend, companion, fellow

and he will lie
וְשָׁכַב֙ (wə·šā·ḵaḇ)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 7901: To lie down

with them
עִם־ (‘im-)
Preposition
Strong's 5973: With, equally with

in broad daylight.
נָשֶׁ֔יךָ (nā·še·ḵā)
Noun - feminine plural construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female
 

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2 Samuel 12:12

You
אַתָּ֖ה (’at·tāh)
Pronoun - second person masculine singular
Strong's 859: Thou and thee, ye and you

have acted
עָשִׂ֣יתָ (‘ā·śî·ṯā)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 6213: To do, make

in secret,
בַסָּ֑תֶר (ḇas·sā·ṯer)
Preposition-b, Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 5643: A covering, hiding place, secrecy

but I
וַאֲנִ֗י (wa·’ă·nî)
Conjunctive waw | Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

will do
אֶעֱשֶׂה֙ (’e·‘ĕ·śeh)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - first person common singular
Strong's 6213: To do, make

this thing
הַזֶּ֔ה (haz·zeh)
Article | Pronoun - masculine singular
Strong's 2088: This, that

in broad daylight
הַשָּֽׁמֶשׁ׃ (haš·šā·meš)
Article | Noun - common singular
Strong's 8121: The sun, the east, a ray, a notched battlement

before
נֶ֥גֶד (ne·ḡeḏ)
Preposition
Strong's 5048: A front, part opposite, a counterpart, mate, over against, before

all
כָּל־ (kāl-)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3605: The whole, all, any, every

Israel.’”
יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל (yiś·rā·’êl)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3478: Israel -- 'God strives', another name of Jacob and his desc
 

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2 Samuel 12:13

Then David
דָּוִד֙ (dā·wiḏ)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 1732: David -- perhaps 'beloved one', a son of Jesse

said
וַיֹּ֤אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

to
אֶל־ (’el-)
Preposition
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

Nathan,
נָתָ֔ן (nā·ṯān)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 5416: Nathan -- the name of a number of Israelites

“I have sinned
חָטָ֖אתִי (ḥā·ṭā·ṯî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 2398: To miss, to sin, to forfeit, lack, expiate, repent, lead astray, condemn

against the LORD.”
לַֽיהוָ֑ה (Yah·weh)
Preposition-l | Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

“The LORD
יְהוָ֛ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

has taken away
הֶעֱבִ֥יר (he·‘ĕ·ḇîr)
Verb - Hifil - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 5674: To pass over, through, or by, pass on

your sin,”
חַטָּאתְךָ֖ (ḥaṭ·ṭā·ṯə·ḵā)
Noun - feminine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 2403: An offence, its penalty, occasion, sacrifice, expiation, an offender

Nathan
נָתָ֜ן (nā·ṯān)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 5416: Nathan -- the name of a number of Israelites

replied.
וַיֹּ֨אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

“You will not
לֹ֥א (lō)
Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

die.
תָמֽוּת׃ (ṯā·mūṯ)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 4191: To die, to kill
 

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- I just want to say that power corrupts!

- I just want to speak about a process!

- We are told about a faithful servant of Yah.weh!

- He couldn't even think about doing anything against Yah.weh!

- It was nonsense for him!

- Then he became king!

- Then corruption started to develop in his mind!

- We know he had many wives and concubines!

- Apparently it wasn't enough!

- He wanted more especially the wife of somebody else!

- So he sent for her!

- Then he had relations with her!

- Then he was afraid for his life!

- So he had her husband killed!

- But it wasn't enough!

- He also had a census of Israel against Yah.weh's will!

- Now think about Moses!

- Yah.weh chose him to lead Israel, a people who kept speaking against Yah.weh and Moses!

- Because of Moses, Yah.weh didn't destroy Israel!

- He never did anything against Yah.weh!

- He only made a mistake because he was fed up with Israel's attitude!

- And he couldn't get into the promised land!

- At the difference of human kings, Moses never let corruption get into his mind!

- And he was forbidden to get into the promised land!

- Now think about today!

- CORRUPTION IS EVERYWHERE!

- Maybe I should remind you of the words Yah.weh told David through Nathan!
No need, it shows me, this truth

No flesh but Son's perfect flesh could ever please Yahweh ever. Now, today in Son, not just saying that one believes with our lips and our hearts not being in it, wanting to be selfish in self gain is not good for us the people. As God has continued to tell us all, this truth of the first born flesh, we each and all are first born in. to turn from the first born flesh and be willing to God, to be dead to the first born self and ask to be born again from God. Then one will, become new as one continues in being willing to see truth from God for them too. Then the next one and the next as a domino effect. 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 continues to equal one in Father and Son as won for us to be one with them as Won for us, in thanksgiving and praise never taking it for granted, standing in humility over it
At least this in being born new by God, not me or anyone else, I see to do no harm to anyone, since God by Son chose to do no harm to me. Even though people will do harm to me and have done harm and might again. I am beginning to grow up in God's maturity Hebrews 5:12- Chapter 6 Standing in Thanksgiving and praise to God (Psalms 100:4, 103:12) Trusting it is done to be given new as in Col. 1:21-23, now given it by belief it is done for me to have, unless my reason to have is amiss, wanting to have to spend it on my own pleasure. Then I or others that have the wrong motive, will not receive it, as many have not yet, because of wrong motives.
God has been merciful to us all from day one in the fall of the first Adam. So glad you are aware of this. Hoping you holding yourself accountable as one of those people, I am holding me, accountable, inspire of God forgiving me. I see to remain humble in this gift given.
As Paul reveals this to me in Phil 3 about self righteousness of us the people, that do and have done and excuse ourselves, while condemning everyone else.
God, "I" need you
 

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- I just want to speak about a process!
okay the process
First birth, no flesh can or will please God Father ever, but Son's that did it for us to do it now by belief to its done for us to be new in .love and mercy sas given us by Son
First birth, as dead, yet are alive, yet are dead to God, but not the self or others of the flesh birth think as this as so

The full Gospel. God raised Son who went willingly to death first for us to be reconciled as 100% forgiven forever in this done work. Then offered/offers new life to be given to all that will ask and believe God in Son as risen for them to live new in God's Spirit and truth as Jesus did in his flesh walk here on earth first
Harmed no one. Not even the Pharisees, they tried to harm him, denounce him. When he responded, he only told truth, their sin and they were not perfect. They refused, wanted the lead as most people want that too, to even this day, being first born of flesh and blood, not born again yet by God, not until one is willing to be born new by God for them, one, no one will be as said in John 3
Process
Believe God
Receive from God and be new in God for you in humility too. thank you
 

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No need, it shows me, this truth

No flesh but Son's perfect flesh could ever please Yahweh ever. Now, today in Son, not just saying that one believes with our lips and our hearts not being in it, wanting to be selfish in self gain is not good for us the people. As God has continued to tell us all, this truth of the first born flesh, we each and all are first born in. to turn from the first born flesh and be willing to God, to be dead to the first born self and ask to be born again from God. Then one will, become new as one continues in being willing to see truth from God for them too. Then the next one and the next as a domino effect. 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 continues to equal one in Father and Son as won for us to be one with them as Won for us, in thanksgiving and praise never taking it for granted, standing in humility over it
At least this in being born new by God, not me or anyone else, I see to do no harm to anyone, since God by Son chose to do no harm to me. Even though people will do harm to me and have done harm and might again. I am beginning to grow up in God's maturity Hebrews 5:12- Chapter 6 Standing in Thanksgiving and praise to God (Psalms 100:4, 103:12) Trusting it is done to be given new as in Col. 1:21-23, now given it by belief it is done for me to have, unless my reason to have is amiss, wanting to have to spend it on my own pleasure. Then I or others that have the wrong motive, will not receive it, as many have not yet, because of wrong motives.
God has been merciful to us all from day one in the fall of the first Adam. So glad you are aware of this. Hoping you holding yourself accountable as one of those people, I am holding me, accountable, inspire of God forgiving me. I see to remain humble in this gift given.
As Paul reveals this to me in Phil 3 about self righteousness of us the people, that do and have done and excuse ourselves, while condemning everyone else.
God, "I" need you
- Self righteousness leads nowhere!

- When the flood came, only Noah and his family were saved!

- About the entrance into the promised land, only Joshua and Caleb got into it!

- All the rest died!

- During the two destructions of Jerusalem, how many people died, how many people survived?

- It has always been so, it is not going to change!

- Self righteousness for the majority, humility for a minority!
 

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okay the process
First birth, no flesh can or will please God Father ever, but Son's that did it for us to do it now by belief to its done for us to be new in .love and mercy sas given us by Son
First birth, as dead, yet are alive, yet are dead to God, but not the self or others of the flesh birth think as this as so

The full Gospel. God raised Son who went willingly to death first for us to be reconciled as 100% forgiven forever in this done work. Then offered/offers new life to be given to all that will ask and believe God in Son as risen for them to live new in God's Spirit and truth as Jesus did in his flesh walk here on earth first
Harmed no one. Not even the Pharisees, they tried to harm him, denounce him. When he responded, he only told truth, their sin and they were not perfect. They refused, wanted the lead as most people want that too, to even this day, being first born of flesh and blood, not born again yet by God, not until one is willing to be born new by God for them, one, no one will be as said in John 3
Process
Believe God
Receive from God and be new in God for you in humility too. thank you
- But when Jesus comes back, it will be as a warrior for war with mankind!
 

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Do I have to remember you Revelation 19 starting from verse 11:

Then
Καὶ (Kai)
Conjunction
Strong's 2532: And, even, also, namely.

I saw
εἶδον (eidon)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 1st Person Singular
Strong's 3708: Properly, to stare at, i.e. to discern clearly; by extension, to attend to; by Hebraism, to experience; passively, to appear.

heaven
οὐρανὸν (ouranon)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3772: Perhaps from the same as oros; the sky; by extension, heaven; by implication, happiness, power, eternity; specially, the Gospel.

standing open,
ἠνεῳγμένον (ēneōgmenon)
Verb - Perfect Participle Middle or Passive - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 455: To open. From ana and oigo; to open up.

and
καὶ (kai)
Conjunction
Strong's 2532: And, even, also, namely.

there before me was
ἰδοὺ (idou)
Verb - Aorist Imperative Active - 2nd Person Singular
Strong's 2400: See! Lo! Behold! Look! Second person singular imperative middle voice of eido; used as imperative lo!

a white
λευκός (leukos)
Adjective - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3022: White, bright, brilliant. From luke; white.

horse.
ἵππος (hippos)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 2462: A horse. Of uncertain affinity; a horse.

And
καὶ (kai)
Conjunction
Strong's 2532: And, even, also, namely.

its rider
ὁ (ho)
Article - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

is called
καλούμενος (kaloumenos)
Verb - Present Participle Middle or Passive - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 2564: (a) I call, summon, invite, (b) I call, name. Akin to the base of keleuo; to 'call'.

Faithful
Πιστὸς (Pistos)
Adjective - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4103: Trustworthy, faithful, believing. From peitho; objectively, trustworthy; subjectively, trustful.

and
καὶ (kai)
Conjunction
Strong's 2532: And, even, also, namely.

True.
Ἀληθινός (Alēthinos)
Adjective - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 228: True (lit: made of truth), real, genuine. From alethes; truthful.

With
ἐν (en)
Preposition
Strong's 1722: In, on, among. A primary preposition denoting position, and instrumentality, i.e. A relation of rest; 'in, ' at, on, by, etc.

righteousness
δικαιοσύνῃ (dikaiosynē)
Noun - Dative Feminine Singular
Strong's 1343: From dikaios; equity; specially justification.

He judges
κρίνει (krinei)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 2919: Properly, to distinguish, i.e. Decide; by implication, to try, condemn, punish.

and
καὶ (kai)
Conjunction
Strong's 2532: And, even, also, namely.

wages war.
πολεμεῖ (polemei)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 4170: To make war, contend, fight, battle. From polemos; to be in warfare, i.e. To battle: -fight, war.