Critique On Why Catholics Are Hated
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Spoken like a true braindead antifa member. Don't you have a riot to go to?
It was the Catholics who liberated so many in the Americas from the satanic death cult known as the aztecs. Aztec were busy ripping people's hearts out and throwing them off of their pyramids. Catholics put a stop to it.
What have the protestants accomplished?
It was the Catholics who liberated so many in the Americas from the satanic death cult known as the aztecs. Aztec were busy ripping people's hearts out and throwing them off of their pyramids. Catholics put a stop to it.
What have the protestants accomplished?
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Pope Leo X in his bull of 1513 described the enslavement of Indians as an offense against the Christian religion and nature.
May 1537 Paul III followed the lead already given by Spanish crown and banned under pain of excommunication the enslavement of American Indians whom he now declared to be human beings
I believe it was the state government that legalized slavery in California.
May 1537 Paul III followed the lead already given by Spanish crown and banned under pain of excommunication the enslavement of American Indians whom he now declared to be human beings
I believe it was the state government that legalized slavery in California.
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Is it a competition surfer? I hope not. As known I was raised in a catholic enviroment and I love nuns. Catholics have done and are still doing great things for people who can not take care of themselves. My grandmother got old and died worthy in a monastary of nuns taking care of the elderly.
Not all Aztecs torn hearts out, but they submitted to a system that did rituals to achieve their goals. As does our system today where we are powerless against.
You may say the entire current western wealth is caused by the protestants. The catholics collaborated with the rich elite keeping the mass dumb while the rich elite kept them poor. After the reformation people could work for themselves not submitting to a hierarchie anymore keeping them dumb.
It was also very important that every christian could read while being a protestant. So they could behold the testament with their own eyes. The catholic church has windows resembling the life of Jesus for people that could not read. Catholic schools were for the rich elite while the poor children worked in factories.
The catholic church has done great works, but it also abused her position against the people. Even today they are still very worldly. In the past they have backstabbed many partners to get their throne in the Vatican. Think of the Templars and Cathars (not sure I read this in proper English lol)
If we would make it a true compitition, I’m afraid the protestants have done more in the end. Not that I’m into the figure like Martin Luther or Calvin, but the reformation was needed to get to our enlightenment. If we’d only remain catholic the west would have never become enlightenment and “equal” the way it is today.
Not all Aztecs torn hearts out, but they submitted to a system that did rituals to achieve their goals. As does our system today where we are powerless against.
You may say the entire current western wealth is caused by the protestants. The catholics collaborated with the rich elite keeping the mass dumb while the rich elite kept them poor. After the reformation people could work for themselves not submitting to a hierarchie anymore keeping them dumb.
It was also very important that every christian could read while being a protestant. So they could behold the testament with their own eyes. The catholic church has windows resembling the life of Jesus for people that could not read. Catholic schools were for the rich elite while the poor children worked in factories.
The catholic church has done great works, but it also abused her position against the people. Even today they are still very worldly. In the past they have backstabbed many partners to get their throne in the Vatican. Think of the Templars and Cathars (not sure I read this in proper English lol)
If we would make it a true compitition, I’m afraid the protestants have done more in the end. Not that I’m into the figure like Martin Luther or Calvin, but the reformation was needed to get to our enlightenment. If we’d only remain catholic the west would have never become enlightenment and “equal” the way it is today.
No. It is not. And maybe I shouldn't have worded it that way.
It's just that I think we've grown up in a society with a lot of anti-catholic bias. And I think that affects us all. And I think it's real easy to overlook a lot of the great things that the Catholics have given us.
They liberated Europe from the muslims.
They liberated the America's from the Aztecs.
They gave us hospitals.
They take care of poor people all over the world.
So why do you think it is that there is this overwhelming anti-Catholic bias out there? Who is telling us that? We know they lie to us about everything else, so why should we trust them when they're berating the only people to effectively fight against islamic invasion?? Doesn't that make alarm bells go off in the back of your mind?
It's just that I think we've grown up in a society with a lot of anti-catholic bias. And I think that affects us all. And I think it's real easy to overlook a lot of the great things that the Catholics have given us.
They liberated Europe from the muslims.
They liberated the America's from the Aztecs.
They gave us hospitals.
They take care of poor people all over the world.
So why do you think it is that there is this overwhelming anti-Catholic bias out there? Who is telling us that? We know they lie to us about everything else, so why should we trust them when they're berating the only people to effectively fight against islamic invasion?? Doesn't that make alarm bells go off in the back of your mind?
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Have you ever questioned why people are growing anti catholic? And that they might be justified looking at it from perspective of victims? Have we even considered victims of the catholic church tried to speak about this for decades but got silenced up until they all started speaking out loud once grown up?
Where is our grace with the victims? I show more sympathy with individuals then a hierarchy.
It were the Templars who also participated on the crusades. But once they were used up the catholics persecuted them burning many alive. We must not look away from its political position in this world Surfer. And its evil and wicked ways and iniquities not serving the christian benefits in overall.
America had more then Aztecs.
I am telling you the anti catholic mindset comes from getting known with what has been playing below the surface. It has been surfaced today and then we can make a choice. We stand with what is right or what feels right.
Im sorry to say, but if we would base our opinions on that short list you pin out, you can start praising Hitler. We simply leave out the bad and address few good things and ask others why they critique Hitler. You see?
Where is our grace with the victims? I show more sympathy with individuals then a hierarchy.
It were the Templars who also participated on the crusades. But once they were used up the catholics persecuted them burning many alive. We must not look away from its political position in this world Surfer. And its evil and wicked ways and iniquities not serving the christian benefits in overall.
America had more then Aztecs.
I am telling you the anti catholic mindset comes from getting known with what has been playing below the surface. It has been surfaced today and then we can make a choice. We stand with what is right or what feels right.
Im sorry to say, but if we would base our opinions on that short list you pin out, you can start praising Hitler. We simply leave out the bad and address few good things and ask others why they critique Hitler. You see?
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Fair enough. I don't disagree.
I'm in no way defending pedo priests. I think there has been an infiltration into the Catholic church (just like there's been infiltration into everything else). I said earlier that Catholics should mercilessly crush pedos and pedo sympathizers within their ranks. They need to die. The rot is extensive. It's going to be difficult to excise all the cancer.
BTW, the only case of pedo I personally know of didn't happen in a Catholic church. It happened instead within a protestant church. And guess what - nothing happened to the guy other than he got fired.
Also, when I defend the Catholics, that doesn't mean that I approve of Pope Francis and his leftism or his bringing idols into the vatican. I think he's bad. Really bad.
I'm in no way defending pedo priests. I think there has been an infiltration into the Catholic church (just like there's been infiltration into everything else). I said earlier that Catholics should mercilessly crush pedos and pedo sympathizers within their ranks. They need to die. The rot is extensive. It's going to be difficult to excise all the cancer.
BTW, the only case of pedo I personally know of didn't happen in a Catholic church. It happened instead within a protestant church. And guess what - nothing happened to the guy other than he got fired.
Also, when I defend the Catholics, that doesn't mean that I approve of Pope Francis and his leftism or his bringing idols into the vatican. I think he's bad. Really bad.
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But even apart from all the scandals in the present day. It is a political institution serving wordly issues more then christian. Been so for centuries now. It’s like the serpent once was in the Egyptian empire, it later was in the Roman empire sneaking her way up to the Vatican. The evil one has invaded churches and these churches have grown away from the original doctrine fooling the masses.
Yes even so in protestant churches, but the catholic churches function as one body through the Vatican. What pope says is law. Yet you say protestants have done nothing while (what were protestents before reformation) were killed by the catholic church. OR what remained had to go underground. Even when the reformation happened the protestants have done great deals for society. Under the catholic church big companies florished, under the protestants society florished creating more equality. Even making it possible to express critique without enduring corporal punishment.
These idols were always in the Vatican. My grandmother had all these mini statues of staints and pictures of Jesus as a child in mother Mary her arms. Popes were always seen as the autority not questioning anything but being humble to the hierarchy. We have seen the outcome of that...
You name the good, but if you weighted it out with the bad during the last 1000 years, it gets more grimmy. There are also dark ages we know nothing about, but we can paint a quite clear picture of the inquisition. In the 14th century many christian communities were persecuted because they did not fit the political agenda. Simply killed and persecuted, vanished.
The Vatican may have launched the first crusades, but it were more then catholics alone that went on crusade. The Templars should not be forgotten in this and specially not their tragic fate because a French hostile take over in Europe.
Yes even so in protestant churches, but the catholic churches function as one body through the Vatican. What pope says is law. Yet you say protestants have done nothing while (what were protestents before reformation) were killed by the catholic church. OR what remained had to go underground. Even when the reformation happened the protestants have done great deals for society. Under the catholic church big companies florished, under the protestants society florished creating more equality. Even making it possible to express critique without enduring corporal punishment.
These idols were always in the Vatican. My grandmother had all these mini statues of staints and pictures of Jesus as a child in mother Mary her arms. Popes were always seen as the autority not questioning anything but being humble to the hierarchy. We have seen the outcome of that...
You name the good, but if you weighted it out with the bad during the last 1000 years, it gets more grimmy. There are also dark ages we know nothing about, but we can paint a quite clear picture of the inquisition. In the 14th century many christian communities were persecuted because they did not fit the political agenda. Simply killed and persecuted, vanished.
The Vatican may have launched the first crusades, but it were more then catholics alone that went on crusade. The Templars should not be forgotten in this and specially not their tragic fate because a French hostile take over in Europe.
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Does that include the Cadaver trial of Pope Formosus ? How would a person believe they are forgiven? What's the the born again assurance? Wondering?
If Mary is is the only one who received the fulness of the grace of God. Everyone else gets a unknow remnant . How long is the sufferings at purgatory before a person sin is not accounted for against them ? One day short of eternity?
The trial was conducted by Pope Stephen VI, the successor to Formosus' successor, Pope Boniface VI. Stephen had Formosus' corpse exhumed and brought to the papal court for judgment. He accused Formosus of perjury .And passed a finger bone around the circuit to be venerated? What was that all about the power of forgiveness?
If Mary is is the only one who received the fulness of the grace of God. Everyone else gets a unknow remnant . How long is the sufferings at purgatory before a person sin is not accounted for against them ? One day short of eternity?
The trial was conducted by Pope Stephen VI, the successor to Formosus' successor, Pope Boniface VI. Stephen had Formosus' corpse exhumed and brought to the papal court for judgment. He accused Formosus of perjury .And passed a finger bone around the circuit to be venerated? What was that all about the power of forgiveness?
Why the change in doctrine, all male priests? Peter was married and Catholic priests were until it got to costly to support their children .What changed seeing nothing changes nothing? A new law, new insight ?
Follow the money trail I would think. Cost plenty money to put on a venerable Latin show worth watching . Someone has to keep the dead archaic language around. Museum can become costly.
Follow the money trail I would think. Cost plenty money to put on a venerable Latin show worth watching . Someone has to keep the dead archaic language around. Museum can become costly.
Garee Grace isn't something rationed or depleted. Jesus isn't finite. Also, to be favored that way means there will be sufferings that will require such Grace because anything less would render the recipient unable to accomplish what God intends.
Can you enter heaven if people are suffering the consequences of your sin? How many generations will be negatively effected by things you did? How long will it be before there is no one suffers some lack of good because of Hitler? My sins as a father will be repeated by my descendants. Until what I have damaged is repaired is how long. My soul is purged by knowing the damage done and it is complete when the reparation is complete
This isn't what a Catholic must believe. It's what I as a Catholic believes.
Can you enter heaven if people are suffering the consequences of your sin? How many generations will be negatively effected by things you did? How long will it be before there is no one suffers some lack of good because of Hitler? My sins as a father will be repeated by my descendants. Until what I have damaged is repaired is how long. My soul is purged by knowing the damage done and it is complete when the reparation is complete
This isn't what a Catholic must believe. It's what I as a Catholic believes.
You are wrong on so many levels. As an unsaved man you cannot understand what Jesus is teaching in this context. Compare Matthew 18:15-22 with your interpretation of this verse in John 20:23. Catholics have built an empire and gotten wealthy because of the way they have interpreted this verse.
Matthew 18 clearly establishes the limits on the authority of men in the church and it clearly does not extend into the Spiritual realm of eternity.
How did you get saved? Edict of the pope or the parish priest? Except your righteousness exceed theirs you will also perish.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Matthew 18 clearly establishes the limits on the authority of men in the church and it clearly does not extend into the Spiritual realm of eternity.
How did you get saved? Edict of the pope or the parish priest? Except your righteousness exceed theirs you will also perish.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Who said anything about entering heaven without all of our sins atoned for? The wage is death . Thou shall surely die. not some idea of purgatory after one stops breathing. The wondering doctrine of Catholiscim no end as faith.... the salvation of ones soul
Born again grace is the reward of Christ's labor of love that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure. Not of ourselves.
Mary alone according to Catholiscim is said to have the fullness of grace . Everyone else a unknown remnant to wonder after as a lying wonder. .It never comes to fruition. No time period or end to the sufferings and therefore remains a lying wonder. We walk by faith the unseen things of God .Not by wondering sufferings , wondering sufferings with no end in sight
It can be seen in the words a Catholic must say when worshipping a the familiar disembodied spirit some have named Mary . The faithless Jews having a different name for the same worker with a familiar spirit.
Hail Mary, full of grace. She is said to be the queen mother of patron saints. The legion of workers with familiar spirits. The foundation of necromancy passed on to Catholiscim by a law of the fathers, taken from the Pharisees with Sadaucesss. Men lording it over the beliefs of others. (pew sitters) The same one father that Catholiscim has usurped with a legion of fathers on earth that they call apostolical succession of sinful men following after other sinful men. And in doing so destroy the meaning of the word apostle adding new meaning to the word . as a authority that rises above all things written in the law and the prophets .(sola scriptura0 Again making it to no effect so that they can serve a law of men . . Therefore Violating the law of our one Holy Father in heaven not seen to call no man on earth Holy Father. Holy Papa (a few names a pew catholic can use to usurp the a real authority (sola scriptura) of our One Holy Father in heaven
We do not add our sufferings to his as a unknown . Born again Christian are given the faith that comes from hearing God Again they do not usurp his unseen authroity and give it to corrupted flesh and blood.
We suffer because he finished all the work necessary. The arrows of the evil one, our persecution is directed at Christ. We do not wrestle against flesh and blood . A Catholic idea. Kill the misperceived competition . Out of sight out of mind just as the Pharisees same kind of law of the fathers in Acts 22..
Acts22:3-5 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished.
The grace of Christ was sufficient for a us to enter in .Catholics do despite to the grace of God.
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Bulls and bans are one thing: the reality is quite another.
NOTE: I have yet to discover a passage in the Bible that either forbids or
condemns slavery. What I have discovered is much about the treatment of
slaves; and in that respect, California's mission padres have a lot to answer
for.
BTW: Speaking of Pope Leo X, his Bull of Exurge Domine, in the year 1520,
stated, along with some other things, that death is the termination not of
nature but of sin, and this inability to sin makes [purgatorial souls] secure of
final happiness.
In other words: according to Leo X's Bull, the occupants of purgatory are
unable to sin; subsequently, they are sinless and won't commit new sins
while undergoing purgatorial discipline and purification.
I'm sure you can see right off just how essential it would be for souls in a
purgatory to be incapable of sinning, because if they weren't, then Rome’s
promise in CCC.1030, of an assured eternal salvation for purgatorians,
would be a tenuous guarantee indeed since each new sin committed while
interred in a purgatory would add time to the penitent’s original sentence;
with the very real possibility of potentially snow-balling to the point where
they would never be released.
In a nutshell; Leo X's Bull was basically an expedient to allay the fears of
Rome's followers that purgatory could very possibly become their permanent
abode. But as I said: Bulls are one thing, the reality is quite another.
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Bulls and bans are one thing: the reality is quite another.
NOTE: I have yet to discover a passage in the Bible that either forbids or
condemns slavery. What I have discovered is much about the treatment of
slaves; and in that respect, California's mission padres have a lot to answer
for.
BTW: Speaking of Pope Leo X, his Bull of Exurge Domine, in the year 1520,
stated, along with some other things, that death is the termination not of
nature but of sin, and this inability to sin makes [purgatorial souls] secure of
final happiness.
In other words: according to Leo X's Bull, the occupants of purgatory are
unable to sin; subsequently, they are sinless and won't commit new sins
while undergoing purgatorial discipline and purification.
I'm sure you can see right off just how essential it would be for souls in a
purgatory to be incapable of sinning, because if they weren't, then Rome’s
promise in CCC.1030, of an assured eternal salvation for purgatorians,
would be a tenuous guarantee indeed since each new sin committed while
interred in a purgatory would add time to the penitent’s original sentence;
with the very real possibility of potentially snow-balling to the point where
they would never be released.
In a nutshell; Leo X's Bull was basically an expedient to allay the fears of
Rome's followers that purgatory could very possibly become their permanent
abode. But as I said: Bulls are one thing, the reality is quite another.
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You do know that all binding and loosing are not the same thing? Matthew 18 is about excommunication not forgiveness of sins. What's that about understanding context?
Saved unsaved is a non issue. Why be concerned about something that isn't revealed? Those rejected at the judgement thought they were saved. Those that were saved didn't know they were. I'll leave it at that because it is a non issue.
Saved unsaved is a non issue. Why be concerned about something that isn't revealed? Those rejected at the judgement thought they were saved. Those that were saved didn't know they were. I'll leave it at that because it is a non issue.