Could the tribulation start this year?
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There are supposed to be Three feasts / festivals in a year.
Deu 16
There are supposed to be Three feasts / festivals in a year.
Deu 16
Three times a year all your men are to appear before the LORD your God in the place He will choose: at the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks, and the Feast of Tabernacles. No one should appear before the LORD empty-handed.
(This is why, on the day of pentecost, all Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven gathered at Jerusalem.)
hi blain i have my disserments for never getting involved in theese tpe of topics. its sutch a sketchy subject. my main diserment is the bible clearly tells us that only the father knows and that no man will know the hour or the day.. which makes me wonder are we rejecting the will of Jesus by trying to work out if we are close to that day..
I do believe like you that there will be a 7 years of tribulation for everyone in some way and that there will be signs and wonders..
I suppose you could say the world wide pandemic is for everyone,, but hasnt there allready been world wide pandemics and hasnt there been goverments scaming people for years and years ?
Can i just ask you what is the reason for your self in believing you have the authority to question when the hour or day will be based on this scripture
No One Knows the Day or Hour
mathew 24
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [a]heaven, but My Father only.
Personaly speaking i feals its a sin to question when this hour or day will be,
maybe you dont feal its a sin and i just wonder why you wouldnt feal its a sin.
I do believe like you that there will be a 7 years of tribulation for everyone in some way and that there will be signs and wonders..
I suppose you could say the world wide pandemic is for everyone,, but hasnt there allready been world wide pandemics and hasnt there been goverments scaming people for years and years ?
Can i just ask you what is the reason for your self in believing you have the authority to question when the hour or day will be based on this scripture
No One Knows the Day or Hour
mathew 24
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [a]heaven, but My Father only.
Personaly speaking i feals its a sin to question when this hour or day will be,
maybe you dont feal its a sin and i just wonder why you wouldnt feal its a sin.
Well, there is a catch. I only talk about the revival because I think you'll need it over there. I see the church to be dead now, and the truth is Earth is going to face a lot of turmoil in the next few years at most. Satan is out to kill you. Us all, but America is most in danger. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, then please seek the Lord about what is coming to the land. Destruction is insufficient to describe it.
I don't know how old you are, but you have to understand what globalists are doing and planning against the whole world, and through technology.
I don't know how old you are, but you have to understand what globalists are doing and planning against the whole world, and through technology.
Yes that is most common quote to use for being watchful but do you remember the rest of the verse?
The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
taking a single verse out of the whole message is cherry picking and makes it say something else entirely, he clearly warns to be watchful and you know had the magi not known the sign to look for the messiah to be born they would never had gone to him but they were watchful and knew the sign to look for so they were not unaware as Jesus says to not be so no it is not a sin it's being obedient
The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
taking a single verse out of the whole message is cherry picking and makes it say something else entirely, he clearly warns to be watchful and you know had the magi not known the sign to look for the messiah to be born they would never had gone to him but they were watchful and knew the sign to look for so they were not unaware as Jesus says to not be so no it is not a sin it's being obedient
And also I would like to add that I have authority in Christ not to question but to be watchful and look for his coming and for the season of the end just because I have the wisdom to be watcful doesn't mean I am going against God in fact I would dare say it is being disobedient to not be watchful
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Hi again blain i do understand why people want to know the hour and the day. I also feal that signs and wonders could make me think this is it, this is start of pretrib just like you here.. Personaly i dont think its me or you that are looking for signs. but the signs indicating we are close.
How ever bro ive seen so many predictions proved wrong since the year 2000.
Beaware of false profits the lord said. you know what i mean,, Jesus is with you allways there and theres no need to go looking for the return of our lord, i think is the message from mathew Psalm 27:14 14Wait for the LORD; be strong and take heart and wait for the LORD.
False prophesy of predicting the exact date of the lord is the concern for me not the signs or fealing like the time is close .. you would be misled to join in the predictions of the exact date of a pretrib brother.
How ever bro ive seen so many predictions proved wrong since the year 2000.
Beaware of false profits the lord said. you know what i mean,, Jesus is with you allways there and theres no need to go looking for the return of our lord, i think is the message from mathew Psalm 27:14 14Wait for the LORD; be strong and take heart and wait for the LORD.
False prophesy of predicting the exact date of the lord is the concern for me not the signs or fealing like the time is close .. you would be misled to join in the predictions of the exact date of a pretrib brother.
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First will Satan coming out as the fake 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ. Very short amount of time later, Real Jesus Christ comes.
1 Thessalonians 5:3-5
King James Version
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
1 Thessalonians 5:3-5
King James Version
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
Yes sadly many to thise day still try to predict the exact day but this was not the purpose of this thread it didn't even have to do with the rapture it had to do with the tribulation.
I do think it is possible that it could happen this year or maybe even next year and it was niave of me to try to keep this thread focused on that topic I should have known that it would always end up being about the rapture that was unavoidable I suppose but even so I still think we would be wise to pay attention and to study deeper because no matter our stance on the rapture and the tribulation God is showing us the signs but I worry that we have seen so many false teachers and prophets that we have hardened our hearts from seeing and knowing what is to come
More than anything this thread should bring us and provoke us to go deeper I have no interest in any more heated debates about who is right I created this thread to bring everyone closer and to hopefully find others who are just as passionate in the study of bible prophecy as me not to be right or to arm ourselves for debates but because our spirits can feel a tug to look closer
I do think it is possible that it could happen this year or maybe even next year and it was niave of me to try to keep this thread focused on that topic I should have known that it would always end up being about the rapture that was unavoidable I suppose but even so I still think we would be wise to pay attention and to study deeper because no matter our stance on the rapture and the tribulation God is showing us the signs but I worry that we have seen so many false teachers and prophets that we have hardened our hearts from seeing and knowing what is to come
More than anything this thread should bring us and provoke us to go deeper I have no interest in any more heated debates about who is right I created this thread to bring everyone closer and to hopefully find others who are just as passionate in the study of bible prophecy as me not to be right or to arm ourselves for debates but because our spirits can feel a tug to look closer
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Matthew 24:6-14
New King James Version
6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, [b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you (God's elect), and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Bible tells us God's elects will be jailed or killed.
