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My point friend is this....if you are convicted and stead fast on not celebrating that's fine with me and I think I speak for others here that feel the same way.
But to go so far as to wag your finger and call us liars, ignorant, and suggest we have no clue to the history of this event is what we all are speaking to.
No way am I saying your wrong in your conviction, but you are wrong in your approach.
There is no way I would tell anyone Jesus was born on dec 25th and this is the time we should celebrate.
Now consider this...this date is known all over the world as a Christian holiday. It is celebrated as such.
It has been a tradition for years.
How great is it that we could steal a pagan holiday and do a make over to get the message out?
Daniel didn't stop praying because he was in a pagan nation.
God sent Jonah to a pagan country.
Abraham first covenant was a pagan ritual.
It's the heart of the people that God is concerned about....ask David.
If it be possible I'd steal Halloween, I'd steal back the rainbow. I'd bring back Pentecost rather than Easter.
As Joseph said in the old testament....you ment it for evil God ment it for good. I may be grasping at straws here in this defence but only trying to show the heart.
Peace be with you and yours.
But to go so far as to wag your finger and call us liars, ignorant, and suggest we have no clue to the history of this event is what we all are speaking to.
No way am I saying your wrong in your conviction, but you are wrong in your approach.
There is no way I would tell anyone Jesus was born on dec 25th and this is the time we should celebrate.
Now consider this...this date is known all over the world as a Christian holiday. It is celebrated as such.
It has been a tradition for years.
How great is it that we could steal a pagan holiday and do a make over to get the message out?
Daniel didn't stop praying because he was in a pagan nation.
God sent Jonah to a pagan country.
Abraham first covenant was a pagan ritual.
It's the heart of the people that God is concerned about....ask David.
If it be possible I'd steal Halloween, I'd steal back the rainbow. I'd bring back Pentecost rather than Easter.
As Joseph said in the old testament....you ment it for evil God ment it for good. I may be grasping at straws here in this defence but only trying to show the heart.
Peace be with you and yours.
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See? You did it again. As far as the liars part is concerned, you already admitted that you don't believe that Jesus was born on December 25th, yet you behave before the world as if he was. What would you call someone who does the opposite of what he or she believes in? A liar? A hypocrite? A compromiser? A man-pleaser? Anyhow, you just lied in this post. When did I ever call any of you ignorant or suggest that you have no clue to the history of this event? Go ahead, and quote me. Ironically, you are the one who has claimed that others are ignorant or basically clueless in relation to the history of this event. Here. I will quote you.
There are millions of people in this world who recognize that the origins of Christmas are pagan, and you are the one who has claimed otherwise, or you are the one who is truly guilty of that which you are now falsely accusing me of.
And yet, as a living epistle who is known and read of all men (2 Cor. 3:2), that is precisely what you are telling them through your actions.
Anyhow, save your projections for somebody else. I am not the least bit interested in any of them, and if they persist, then I will simply put you on ignore.
See? You did it again. As far as the liars part is concerned, you already admitted that you don't believe that Jesus was born on December 25th, yet you behave before the world as if he was. What would you call someone who does the opposite of what he or she believes in? A liar? A hypocrite? A compromiser? A man-pleaser? Anyhow, you just lied in this post. When did I ever call any of you ignorant or suggest that you have no clue to the history of this event? Go ahead, and quote me. Ironically, you are the one who has claimed that others are ignorant or basically clueless in relation to the history of this event. Here. I will quote you.
There are millions of people in this world who recognize that the origins of Christmas are pagan, and you are the one who has claimed otherwise, or you are the one who is truly guilty of that which you are now falsely accusing me of.
And yet, as a living epistle who is known and read of all men (2 Cor. 3:2), that is precisely what you are telling them through your actions.
Anyhow, save your projections for somebody else. I am not the least bit interested in any of them, and if they persist, then I will simply put you on ignore.