CESSATIONISM AND HEALING

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Don't be stiff-necked to deny healing through faith in Christ's atonement. Repent.
....and yet you deny that Christian's recieve miracles of healing.

Your doctrine somehow does not allow for Christian's to be healed.
 
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My brother garee, Yes the gospel is about everlasting salvation. Not temporary salvation from sick but eternal salvation from hell. But some time Jesus heal the sick Aswell
Do a study on the healing verses.
Your statement implies Jesus rarely healed.

What other miracles did he do more than healing?
Wind calming...one time
Fig tree withered...one time
Wind ceasing...one time
Coin from fish...one time
Water to wine...one time

Healing....over 50 times.

Jesus was the healer. Still alive today. Still healing people big time
 

Jackson123

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Do a study on the healing verses.
Your statement implies Jesus rarely healed.

What other miracles did he do more than healing?
Wind calming...one time
Fig tree withered...one time
Wind ceasing...one time
Coin from fish...one time
Water to wine...one time

Healing....over 50 times.

Jesus was the healer. Still alive today. Still healing people big time
And Jesus raised Lazarus from the death

But Jesus focus oN spiritual healing

Matthew 5:29

“And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.”

He talking about your healthy eye, not sick eye.
Make It blind is opposit of heal the blind for the seek of eternal life
In other word, is better sick and go to heaven than healthy but go to hell.

Yes, Jesus do miracle, Jesus able to heal or raise the death. But Jesus focus oN salvation more than physical blessing

Luke 12
17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

Jesus not focus oN physical blessing
 
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Only as a last resort.
In america,they see the doctor first. Jesus,the real physician is a last resort or no resort.
Covid 19 has been sent by God to break the trust in medical doctors and glorify Christ's atonement.
 
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Show me where Christian's do not recieve miracles.

Jesus words do not need modification.
Christians seek miracles for healing due to ignorance about faith in Christ's atonement which heals.
 
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And Jesus raised Lazarus from the death

But Jesus focus oN spiritual healing

Matthew 5:29

“And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.”

He talking about your healthy eye, not sick eye.
Make It blind is opposit of heal the blind for the seek of eternal life
In other word, is better sick and go to heaven than healthy but go to hell.

Yes, Jesus do miracle, Jesus able to heal or raise the death. But Jesus focus oN salvation more than physical blessing

Luke 12
17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

Jesus not focus oN physical blessing
Rubbish. Christ's atonement includes physical healing also according to Isaiah 53:4.
 
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....and yet you deny that Christian's recieve miracles of healing.

Your doctrine somehow does not allow for Christian's to be healed.
Nonsense. Your doctrine somehow does not allow for Christian's to grow and be healed by faith in Christ's atonement.

You want christians to remain as spiritual babies depending on miracle workers for healing.
 

wolfwint

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There is no answer to stupid questions.
I learned,that there are no stupide questions, but stupid answers.
It was a simple question. Why you asking for opinions, if you only accept your own View?
 

miknik5

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Covid 19 has been sent by God to break the trust in medical doctors and glorify Christ's atonement.
GOD doesn´t do this sir...you are confusing this work with another father...

You are NOW implying that GOD sends sicknesses?

You are charging to GOD what should not be charged to GOD.
Further, you add to the confusion of those who will blame/curse GOD for their illnesses...just as written in Revelation
 

miknik5

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Letś be clear...GOD does NOT send illnesses, or diseases, or death...

Thereś someone else responsible for that....
 

miknik5

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Men and women reading this, please believe that there is a spiritual battle for the souls of men...

Please understand that GOD allows what HE allows...but as 2 Thesselonians 2...there will come a time when HE who holds all things back (so we are never totally consumed) will no longer hold all these things back...but HE is NOT the CAUSE of EVIL, or ILLNESS....

HEś the ONE who holds these things back so that we are never totally consumed.

One day, HE will remove the hedge, just as written in Job...and many of these ¨labor pains¨ and sufferings will come...

BUt, is HE the cause of it?

No, just as it should have been clear in Job...

Please do call out to HIM...in Romans 10, there is something that you should do.....and keep doing...
 

miknik5

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Covid 19 has been sent by God to break the trust in medical doctors and glorify Christ's atonement.
Many things in the last day will happen to show man that all those natural things that they have long held as truths, will no longer hold true...man will either call on GOD, or will accuse GOD...

You sir, are implying to people that HE is not a good father, that HE is behind these evil things which will begin to happen...
HE isn´t...HE just let go...temporarily....

Men wlll either come to the understanding that ALL ALONG IT WAS HIS GRACE upon all men...whether believer or unbeliever...

Or he will curse/blame/attribute to GOD (what should not be attributed to GOD) and will be cast into utter darkness...

Isaiah mentions this to, as does Job, as does Revelation...
 
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Jesus healed both unbelievers (signs) & believers (faith). Christians don't need sign healings but healings by faith in Isaiah 53:4.
Yes. . .Isaiah 53:4 Our father in heaven working with the Son to both will and do the good pleasure of God.

Can't heal the dead flesh. . and like Jesus said of his flesh. . . . it profits for zero. Its dead carrying out the letter of the law death . (you shall surely die.)

Christ's goal was not to heal the corrupted flesh over and over but rather the power to give a eternal gift the spirit of confidence assuring us that if Christ has began the good work in us he will finish it leaving us a living hope of a new incorruptible body.

The devil "the antichrist's mouth piece" makes it about dead flesh and blood .As a lying spirit he has no form(flesh and blood) .He has no power to draw men away from God without the feet of mankind, as false apostles'.

In that way we let the dead bury the dead. Those who beleive hear the living word that does work in us, as the Spirit defines the us, and those who went out and stayed out from us.
 
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I learned,that there are no stupide questions, but stupid answers.
It was a simple question. Why you asking for opinions, if you only accept your own View?
When I ask for opinion there must be an answer not stupid questions. lol.