can people in hell repent and turn to God

[VickyK]

So we are free to shoes for some, and some reactions outside our will

and you claim it proves no free will? This does not make sense

I don't understand what you're saying.

 

[VickyK]

Why not

if we are fighting, are we not chosing to resist?

we can just chose to let the flesh run rampant and stop fighting

If the flesh is running 'rampant' it is against our will. I do not choose to be hungry, for example.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't understand what you're saying.

Sorry spell check got me

Let’s take a bunch of situation which affects us

half of them we chose what we want to do

half of them we act based on our reaction, without choosing

does the fact 50 % not still show free will?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If the flesh is running 'rampant' it is against our will. I do not choose to be hungry, for example.

Yes

but did you chose what to eat?

 

[ewq1938]

They were created perfect

Obviously they weren't else they wouldn't have screwed up so badly.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Obviously they weren't else they wouldn't have screwed up so badly.

I mean their bodies

god does not create flawed things

they sinned because God gave them free will, you can not receive love unless you are able to reject it.

 

[ewq1938]

I mean their bodies

Their bodies weren't perfect either.

god does not create flawed things

Yes he does.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Their bodies weren't perfect either.



Yes he does.

Oh?

lol,, sorry bro my God makes perfect things, he is bot flawed

death and sickness came as a result of sin.nit ad a result of a flawed creator

 

[ewq1938]

Oh?

lol,, sorry bro my God makes perfect things, he is bot flawed

death and sickness came as a result of sin.nit ad a result of a flawed creator

A flawed creation sinned. God made nothing in this world perfect but the next one will be.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A flawed creation sinned. God made nothing in this world perfect but the next one will be.

No,

a perfect creation, given free will so have the capacity to recieve Gods love and give it back, made a decision to reject Gods authority, and because of it, death, suffering and all we see today was the result

 

[Shandy]

But God looked at His creation and said it was good.

 

[justahumanbeing]

do they still have free will

It's in the stubbornness of the soul that the soul goes to hell. It's basically the life that the person leads. A life where people forsake God in the world is how it will be after that as well. Separation from the Creator. That's the punishment for those who leave God's path and do what is wrong to the bitter end. It's a scary thought. Once the soul goes to hell, there's no redemption. We have to take up God's promise to save us and work towards salvation everyday. We've been blessed by God with the knowledge Jesus is there for us and we must be grateful for that everyday.

Luke 16:19-31 - Jesus explains about hell in one of His stories to the people. Lazarus and the rich man

 

[VickyK]

Sorry spell check got me

Let’s take a bunch of situation which affects us

half of them we chose what we want to do

half of them we act based on our reaction, without choosing

does the fact 50 % not still show free will?

No.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No.

So 50 % chose out of free will and that is not free will..please explain

 

[TMS]

To not have free will is to be a robot. No choice means we are programmed and do things without choosing. I know i have free will because i can choose to write this sentence or i can choose to walk away. I'm not a robot. Robots can not love. They can be programmed to show aspects of love but true love is a choice that we make based on principles not based on a pre determined program.