Can a Christian be possessed?
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Oh Really -----True Christians are called to help others if your physically sick all the time at home in bed how can you serve others -----apparently you don't believe Scripture ---so that is your choice and you will remain sick like you want to be -----
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Who forgives all your sins,
Who heals all your diseases;
Praise for the Lord’s Mercies.
A Psalm of David.
103 Bless and affectionately praise the Lord, O my soul,
And all that is [deep] within me, bless His holy name.
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Bless and affectionately praise the Lord, O my soul,
And do not forget any of His benefits;
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Who forgives all your sins,
Who heals all your diseases;
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Who forgives all your sins,
Who heals all your diseases;
Praise for the Lord’s Mercies.
A Psalm of David.
103 Bless and affectionately praise the Lord, O my soul,
And all that is [deep] within me, bless His holy name.
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Bless and affectionately praise the Lord, O my soul,
And do not forget any of His benefits;
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Who forgives all your sins,
Who heals all your diseases;
I use to years ago ----but I have not been sick in a very --very long time ---as I believed that Jesus did take all sickness and disease and I started putting my Faith into action and started laying hold to wellness and wholeness in my body ----actually I made a tape of all healing scriptures and started listening to it every night and started meditating on these healing Scriptures and did that for about 2 years and in that time when I did get a cold or flu I kept repeating that by His stripes I AM HEALED and I starting calling in health to my body -----and the last cold I had it lasted 3 days and I have never had any colds --flu ---sickness --disease ---or any other health problems from that day to this --I am in my 70's and I am as fit as a fiddle ---I haven't been to a Dr in probably 15 years ---I am on no meds ---I am living a Healthy ---wonderful ---beautiful life and have helped others as the Holy Spirit has directed me and and so Greatfull and Thankful for having God in my life --
This is a great scripture below that I really believed in and acted on it by calling out my Faith in Health -----
You see we are made in God's image----- and God created this world by speaking faith words ------He said then He saw what He said ---and so I decided that I would speak out my Faith of Healing -----that I would call what I didn't have yet as though I did ----Words are very powerful and they create -----Words are things -----
The Hebrew word Davar which is the word used in Genesis when God speaks this world into existence
Davar -----means "word," and it also means "thing." This fact reflects a deep facet of a Jewish world view. Words are the creative energy of the world. God spoke, and through words brought the universe into being.
So what i did worked for me -----but it didn't happen right away --I kept at it for 2 years and I finally has success ----
Romans 4
God's Promise Is Received through Faith
This is a great scripture below that I really believed in and acted on it by calling out my Faith in Health -----
You see we are made in God's image----- and God created this world by speaking faith words ------He said then He saw what He said ---and so I decided that I would speak out my Faith of Healing -----that I would call what I didn't have yet as though I did ----Words are very powerful and they create -----Words are things -----
The Hebrew word Davar which is the word used in Genesis when God speaks this world into existence
Davar -----means "word," and it also means "thing." This fact reflects a deep facet of a Jewish world view. Words are the creative energy of the world. God spoke, and through words brought the universe into being.
So what i did worked for me -----but it didn't happen right away --I kept at it for 2 years and I finally has success ----
Romans 4
God's Promise Is Received through Faith
It really is not that simple. Yes, we need to keep clean before God. But what about the demons that bind people before they are born again? I can assure you that they do not just flee. They must be driven out. Lord Jesus confronted demons and commanded them to go. They did not leave just because He was in their presence.
Many Christians become lazy and careless. We are warned to be sober and vigilant. Why? Because the devil seeks those he can devour. If Christians let down their guard, they can fall prey.
We are living in the age of ear ticklers when many Christians won't endure sound teaching. There is way too much emphasis on experiences. I've seen too much to doubt that demons are real and that even the elect can be overtaken. Experiences are like spiritual ice cream. Nice but of no nutritional value. Way too many Christians suffer spiritual malnutrition. They have neither the knowledge nor the strength to resist the devil.
Many Christians become lazy and careless. We are warned to be sober and vigilant. Why? Because the devil seeks those he can devour. If Christians let down their guard, they can fall prey.
We are living in the age of ear ticklers when many Christians won't endure sound teaching. There is way too much emphasis on experiences. I've seen too much to doubt that demons are real and that even the elect can be overtaken. Experiences are like spiritual ice cream. Nice but of no nutritional value. Way too many Christians suffer spiritual malnutrition. They have neither the knowledge nor the strength to resist the devil.
No one is born to deal with demons,We can only learn how to deal with the devil through continuous learning and growth.Of course, it's not to learn what the world looks like, but to learn God's word,If you think the devil is your enemy, learn to love your enemy first. Of course, how you love your enemy depends on your understanding of love.
For example, the devil wants to harm you. What the Bible teaches us is forgiveness.
There are just a few tricks of the devil, which make you angry, make you despair and give you all his lies.The devil's logical way of thinking is based on lies, so the devil's tricks are lies, which is easy to distinguish.
No matter what kind of situation you encounter, learn to forgive the devil's prank.
For example, the devil wants to harm you. What the Bible teaches us is forgiveness.
There are just a few tricks of the devil, which make you angry, make you despair and give you all his lies.The devil's logical way of thinking is based on lies, so the devil's tricks are lies, which is easy to distinguish.
No matter what kind of situation you encounter, learn to forgive the devil's prank.
hi silver XP I just would like to say you know, that I value Christians on this website. I do believe that this is a topic that we should not fall out over or decide who is Christian and who is not in this matter you know for many reasons because of how deceptive these creatures can be. And how they can make a person feel or deceive a person's thoughts, as well deceive feelings and emotion.
I don't know what your views are personally in this master But would you agree to say that a true Christian cannot be possessed by a demon is a bit harsh on those people who think that they may be possessed.
The reason why I say this is because this could have everlasting harm on a person their whole life to believe that they will never be a Christian they will never be a child of God and that' because they cannot get rid of a demon that is attacking them then therefore you know they are not accepted by God, or they may be a child from the devil, I mean this is mental abuse at the highest level. Also you know the person that might not understand completely oppression or depression may go on to feel that they're on the way to hell because they can't be a true Christian.
I guess it's easy to stress a person a true Christian person cannot be possessed by a demon, through what's written in scripture I guess. and for those people who you know worship the lord every day and follow a Christian lifestyle everyday, you know and reap the rewards of course, you know and have a good life with the lord and all that, you know they feel and cannot understand why a Christian may say that they are perhaps being possessed.
But then you know we have to look at some other scriptures perhaps where there is a warning, that being one of the 12 disciples Judas you know, there was Judas you know and one day the devil enters him, scripture does say this that the devil entered Judas and in my thought judas then betrayed Jesus after the devil entered him,
I would also advise forgiving the devil, does not work. I'll explain why, scripture seems to indicate to me that's these evil spirits like to put Christians to the test and seeing whether a Christian passes the forgiveness test once is not enough for these evil spirits, they will keep testing a Christian everyday until he forgets how to forgive one day, and then the evil spirit then feels it then has the right to punish the Christian, it's a game that evil spirits play everyday trying to cause fault in the Christian and then play God and punish the Christian.
Well why may that happen you might say well this is because this is the behavioral pattern of a demon, these are the daily games that they play, always looking to deceive a person everyday.
Scripture also seems to indicate that's evil spirits will curse people their whole life, scripture also seems to indicate that evil spirits will provoke people to anger, to then go and curse that person for that anger the rest of their life. On the basis that they must not be a true Christian because they have failed the test. Of course you may find this line of thinking weird but of course we're dealing with the mind of an evil spirit that believes it has the authority of God,
Now on the other hand if you forgive a real person for a wrongdoing, and that person has Christian love then he may be forgiving back, but however we cannot expect that same response from an evil spirit.
To drive out the demon one must practice self-esteem I believe as it is written in the Bible. Scripture seems to indicate that practicing endurance and strength and standing firm in your faith is is a type of self-esteem, that perhaps drives the demon out of the person, that stops the person from being devoured.
Scripture also indicates the demon can come back, but I feel to take the opinion that the demon will only come back because your house may be not in order could place another curse on a person being oppressed, Without realizing that perhaps.
I believe possession follows oppression. I believe it is oppression that lowers the person's self-esteem so much that the person becomes open to possession. Just practicing forgiveness to cast out your demon is not going to work in my belief, because a person can become upset because, they're still being attacked after forgiving.
The the evil spirits intention is to turn the person's forgiveness into unforgiveness, by continuously provoking a Christian into anger, by continuously attacking the Christian all a person who is not a a Christian,
The evil spirits intention is also to control the person's thoughts and ideas, the thought that you should forgive an evil spirit may not have come from yourself,
I believe if you are having these thoughts then you are being oppressed.
The way to beat this kind of oppression is to take back control of your thoughts like keeping your mind occupied with say perhaps reading a book. Or going for a walk, I'm going outside into the light.
I don't know what your views are personally in this master But would you agree to say that a true Christian cannot be possessed by a demon is a bit harsh on those people who think that they may be possessed.
The reason why I say this is because this could have everlasting harm on a person their whole life to believe that they will never be a Christian they will never be a child of God and that' because they cannot get rid of a demon that is attacking them then therefore you know they are not accepted by God, or they may be a child from the devil, I mean this is mental abuse at the highest level. Also you know the person that might not understand completely oppression or depression may go on to feel that they're on the way to hell because they can't be a true Christian.
I guess it's easy to stress a person a true Christian person cannot be possessed by a demon, through what's written in scripture I guess. and for those people who you know worship the lord every day and follow a Christian lifestyle everyday, you know and reap the rewards of course, you know and have a good life with the lord and all that, you know they feel and cannot understand why a Christian may say that they are perhaps being possessed.
But then you know we have to look at some other scriptures perhaps where there is a warning, that being one of the 12 disciples Judas you know, there was Judas you know and one day the devil enters him, scripture does say this that the devil entered Judas and in my thought judas then betrayed Jesus after the devil entered him,
I would also advise forgiving the devil, does not work. I'll explain why, scripture seems to indicate to me that's these evil spirits like to put Christians to the test and seeing whether a Christian passes the forgiveness test once is not enough for these evil spirits, they will keep testing a Christian everyday until he forgets how to forgive one day, and then the evil spirit then feels it then has the right to punish the Christian, it's a game that evil spirits play everyday trying to cause fault in the Christian and then play God and punish the Christian.
Well why may that happen you might say well this is because this is the behavioral pattern of a demon, these are the daily games that they play, always looking to deceive a person everyday.
Scripture also seems to indicate that's evil spirits will curse people their whole life, scripture also seems to indicate that evil spirits will provoke people to anger, to then go and curse that person for that anger the rest of their life. On the basis that they must not be a true Christian because they have failed the test. Of course you may find this line of thinking weird but of course we're dealing with the mind of an evil spirit that believes it has the authority of God,
Now on the other hand if you forgive a real person for a wrongdoing, and that person has Christian love then he may be forgiving back, but however we cannot expect that same response from an evil spirit.
To drive out the demon one must practice self-esteem I believe as it is written in the Bible. Scripture seems to indicate that practicing endurance and strength and standing firm in your faith is is a type of self-esteem, that perhaps drives the demon out of the person, that stops the person from being devoured.
Scripture also indicates the demon can come back, but I feel to take the opinion that the demon will only come back because your house may be not in order could place another curse on a person being oppressed, Without realizing that perhaps.
I believe possession follows oppression. I believe it is oppression that lowers the person's self-esteem so much that the person becomes open to possession. Just practicing forgiveness to cast out your demon is not going to work in my belief, because a person can become upset because, they're still being attacked after forgiving.
The the evil spirits intention is to turn the person's forgiveness into unforgiveness, by continuously provoking a Christian into anger, by continuously attacking the Christian all a person who is not a a Christian,
The evil spirits intention is also to control the person's thoughts and ideas, the thought that you should forgive an evil spirit may not have come from yourself,
I believe if you are having these thoughts then you are being oppressed.
The way to beat this kind of oppression is to take back control of your thoughts like keeping your mind occupied with say perhaps reading a book. Or going for a walk, I'm going outside into the light.
I agree with you, but I really want a devil to be oppressed to me,I really want to know these demons,I don't think it's a shame, or because I'm possessed by the devil, I can't be a Christian,Why do I think so?Because I found that the devil's temptation to me will only strengthen my faith,I hope my faith can become stronger and stronger.A comfortable life will make me slacken my faith.
But I did experience things where the devil wanted to be possessed to me,Those are evil spirits trying to enter my body from my back,I can feel some thoughts of those evil spirits,The emotions of these evil spirits are out of control, with anger, abuse and some tendency to violence,My feeling was that if they entered my body, I would become another myself,I didn't want to be dominated by the emotions of these evil spirits,I can feel the evil spirit hitting my back like hitting on a door,I was just thinking that I didn't want them to came in,Then the evil spirit failed and disappeared,I did not say that in the name of Jesus Christ, leave me. could be the Holy Spirit helped me at that time.
I really want to challenge and try what it would be like to spend some time with the devil(To clarify，I have this idea after the possessed by the devil),But the truth is impossible, because the devil can't be possessed to me.I even envy those who can be possessed by the devil.
The idea of forgiving the devil comes not from myself, but from the word of God, my understanding of the Word of God.
My understanding is that if I can't forgive the devil for what he did to me, how can I forgive others? If the Bible teaching us Learning to forgiving.
I really want to break the mystery of the devil,Know what the devil really thinks.Why does the devil obey God's word and resist God's word at the same time.Maybe we're as the devil sometimes.
But I did experience things where the devil wanted to be possessed to me,Those are evil spirits trying to enter my body from my back,I can feel some thoughts of those evil spirits,The emotions of these evil spirits are out of control, with anger, abuse and some tendency to violence,My feeling was that if they entered my body, I would become another myself,I didn't want to be dominated by the emotions of these evil spirits,I can feel the evil spirit hitting my back like hitting on a door,I was just thinking that I didn't want them to came in,Then the evil spirit failed and disappeared,I did not say that in the name of Jesus Christ, leave me. could be the Holy Spirit helped me at that time.
I really want to challenge and try what it would be like to spend some time with the devil(To clarify，I have this idea after the possessed by the devil),But the truth is impossible, because the devil can't be possessed to me.I even envy those who can be possessed by the devil.
The idea of forgiving the devil comes not from myself, but from the word of God, my understanding of the Word of God.
My understanding is that if I can't forgive the devil for what he did to me, how can I forgive others? If the Bible teaching us Learning to forgiving.
I really want to break the mystery of the devil,Know what the devil really thinks.Why does the devil obey God's word and resist God's word at the same time.Maybe we're as the devil sometimes.
Disagree. There is no salvation for Satan or his evil host. Hell was created for the devil and the angels that sinned. Jesus did not die for Satan so there is no forgiveness. Satan can only work through people. We for sure need to forgive the people that Satan controls and manipulates.
If it was so easy to know Satan's tricks, no one would get deceived. Satan is much smarter than you think. He's had thousands of years to work out how to lead people astray. Anyone who thinks he stands, beware lest he fall. That's in the Bible too.
If it was so easy to know Satan's tricks, no one would get deceived. Satan is much smarter than you think. He's had thousands of years to work out how to lead people astray. Anyone who thinks he stands, beware lest he fall. That's in the Bible too.
Christ is the way to good health and to not allowing demons to affect out spiritual health. If we follow Christ it affects all we do from what we eat to how our days are spent. A Christian eats the food that is not processed but left as God meant it to be, and treats his body as the temple of God. A Christian watches the food he feed his mind and spirit even closer than what he feeds his body. A Christian prays daily for God to not lead him to temptation but deliver him from evil, and a Christian watches to stay away from evil. These things lead to good health is all ways, spiritual and physical. When evil creeps in, we are forgiven. Paul had a thorn in his side, the Lord helped him cope with it.
Well you can think what you like ---I am telling you what I did and that is the truth ---you don't have to believe it ---as far as taking 2 years ---I had to first find out what would block my healing and work on that ---for instance ----Doubt world creep in when I didn't see the healing right away ---Satan is very crafty and can get you off truth very quickly ---so I had to work on keeping my focus on God and His word and belief ------so there were things I had to overcome before I could get the healing -------
God is not a magician ----Grace provides the healing --we have to do the work to bring it in to us -----
There is a lot to learn ----just like there is protocol for answered prayer ----there is protocol for healing and you have to work on those things first -----it is not an easy-easy task ----it took much work and stamina for me to accomplish this ------You need to re read the Parable of the Sower that tells you basically what you have to do ---you have to plant he seed of healing and then work to getting it to root so that you are not knocked off by the enemy who can come and steal your seed -------
This Parable is how God's Kingdom Works ----it works under the farming system ------you plant the seed in soil but if the soil is not good then your harvest is very much in jeopardy-----Pay attention to the Parable -----the enemy is right there all the time to steal your seed ------toy need to plant the healing seed in good soil ----so it gets good roots to withstand all that comes against it ------Hard work staying the course ---I wanted my healing and worked my but off to get it by doing what the word said ---I followed the Word which inbirths the right faith and believed Jesus was my healer ----
Not asking anyone to believe my way to receive the healing ---what I did worked for me ---I don't care whop believes me and who doesn't ----that matters not to me -----everyone has to believe as they want to--- God gave us free will to do just that ------
But here is the thing ---you in your post show doubt big time ---and until you try and reign in the Healing that is already in place for you ---your doubt will work against you receiving what God has promised ----Satan has you hooked in your doubting ------
People need to do put the Word into practice and do it ---this Scripture takes much practice and stamina to conquer ----not easy peasy stuff to master takes much practice and work on our part -----
James 4:7
Amplified Bible
So submit to [the authority of] God. Resist the devil [stand firm against him] and he will flee from you.
God is not a magician ----Grace provides the healing --we have to do the work to bring it in to us -----
There is a lot to learn ----just like there is protocol for answered prayer ----there is protocol for healing and you have to work on those things first -----it is not an easy-easy task ----it took much work and stamina for me to accomplish this ------You need to re read the Parable of the Sower that tells you basically what you have to do ---you have to plant he seed of healing and then work to getting it to root so that you are not knocked off by the enemy who can come and steal your seed -------
This Parable is how God's Kingdom Works ----it works under the farming system ------you plant the seed in soil but if the soil is not good then your harvest is very much in jeopardy-----Pay attention to the Parable -----the enemy is right there all the time to steal your seed ------toy need to plant the healing seed in good soil ----so it gets good roots to withstand all that comes against it ------Hard work staying the course ---I wanted my healing and worked my but off to get it by doing what the word said ---I followed the Word which inbirths the right faith and believed Jesus was my healer ----
Not asking anyone to believe my way to receive the healing ---what I did worked for me ---I don't care whop believes me and who doesn't ----that matters not to me -----everyone has to believe as they want to--- God gave us free will to do just that ------
But here is the thing ---you in your post show doubt big time ---and until you try and reign in the Healing that is already in place for you ---your doubt will work against you receiving what God has promised ----Satan has you hooked in your doubting ------
People need to do put the Word into practice and do it ---this Scripture takes much practice and stamina to conquer ----not easy peasy stuff to master takes much practice and work on our part -----
James 4:7
Amplified Bible
So submit to [the authority of] God. Resist the devil [stand firm against him] and he will flee from you.
People need to get this ----Jesus defeated Satan on the Cross from having full reign over us -----but we have to stay focus on God to keep Satan and His tribe away from getting into our thought life -----
All demons can do is put thoughts in our mind People ----we have to cast out the though and replace it with God's thought -----that is our job ------God has given them permission to try and knock us off our Faith In Him ------Satan is after your Faith in God ----who will win you today in your thoughts ---Satan or God ------
All demons can do is put thoughts in our mind People ----we have to cast out the though and replace it with God's thought -----that is our job ------God has given them permission to try and knock us off our Faith In Him ------Satan is after your Faith in God ----who will win you today in your thoughts ---Satan or God ------
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I can fully comprehend what your saying here. I will give a more in-depth reply soon to this, but please challenge the thought that you will accept an oppression from God. That may be a deceiving thought to entice you into a religious argument. Also when you suspect a demon is there , the demon will come up with a good reason for it on the bases of its a test or something or even make you think your being punished.
I'll reply further soon. Just keep up your hope. And stay sober xp my friend 😂 and silver XP to lol
I'll reply further soon. Just keep up your hope. And stay sober xp my friend 😂 and silver XP to lol
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