Biblical faith what can it really do?

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Blain

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Look at the first line of your signature. Just because you don't recognize them or 'personally' get to see and experience them, doesn't mean they aren't taking place.

John 4:46 So Jesus came again into Cana of Galilee, where he made the water wine. And there was a certain nobleman, whose son was sick at Capernaum. 47 When he heard that Jesus was come out of Judaea into Galilee, he went unto him, and besought him that he would come down, and heal his son: for he was at the point of death. 48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe. 49 The nobleman saith unto him, Sir, come down ere my child die. 50 Jesus saith unto him, Go thy way; thy son liveth. And the man believed the word that Jesus had spoken unto him, and he went his way. 51 And as he was now going down, his servants met him, and told him, saying, Thy son liveth. 52 Then enquired he of them the hour when he began to amend. And they said unto him, Yesterday at the seventh hour the fever left him. 53 So the father knew that it was at the same hour, in the which Jesus said unto him, Thy son liveth: and himself believed, and his whole house. 54 This is again the second miracle that Jesus did, when he was come out of Judaea into Galilee.

Had he not asked the question, would he have known for sure the miracle took place or would he have just ascribed it 'to life'?


Maybe in the asking of this question a little miracle in itself can be found. Maybe someone needed to be reminded of these verses so they were not deceived when they otherwise would have been. We don't know, we take it on faith

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even Him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Wow I will have to take my time reading this as my eyes are very strained at the moment but this post here is full of goodness I can tell you are strong in the spirit
 
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It seems you are sure v31 refers to the judgement at the last day and think any other view is to "spiritualize". I am convinced this was not about the last day, but the judgment at 70 AD on the Christ rejecting Jews as the temple was destroyed. I do not know reasons you have for thinking this is the last day; but, here are my reasons for thinking it refers to 70 AD and I interpret 'literally'.
If you were to start a thread about this I would join in the discussion to see if we could arrive at the truth of the matter
 
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Wow I will have to take my time reading this as my eyes are very strained at the moment but this post here is full of goodness I can tell you are strong in the spirit
God Bless and Good night
 

oyster67

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Biblical faith what can it really do?


It is the whole ball of yarn.

It does everything.

Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if [any man] draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

We are to come by faith and we are to continue in faith.
 

Blain

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Biblical faith what can it really do?


It is the whole ball of yarn.

It does everything.

Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if [any man] draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

We are to come by faith and we are to continue in faith.
Yes exactly this is why I have sought to know this walk, It is hard to explain in words but I feel inside a fire ggrowing a call to be a warrior of faith I believe in the impossible I feel the call to be a warrior of faith I just need help in doing so something that needs to be unlocked or let go I just don't know what it is that is holding me back
 

oyster67

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I too have wondered why we say we believe in the impossible and that we believe in miracles yet never see it.
By far the greatest healing miracles of all time are being seen and experienced every day! :D... PTL!!(y)

2 Kings 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

I know you seek bodily glorification, my friend. I know you have suffer long. It is coming. Soon and very soon. Just get ready and prepare for it. The waters are beginning to stir at this very moment.

John 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

Hebrews

10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
10:36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.

11:25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
11:26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

God bless you, my much beloved brother.
 

Blain

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By far the greatest healing miracles of all time are being seen and experienced every day! :D... PTL!!(y)

2 Kings 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

I know you seek bodily glorification, my friend. I know you have suffer long. It is coming. Soon and very soon. Just get ready and prepare for it. The waters are beginning to stir at this very moment.

John 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

Hebrews

10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
10:36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.

11:25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
11:26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

God bless you, my much beloved brother.
I am tearing up from this post the verses are so accurate to my situation and the timing of them is uncanny for I have received affirmation in my spirit not five minutes ago that I will be given new sight yet it was not confirmed whether it was physical or spiritual sight in fact it had an inkling of a new body entirely
 

oyster67

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Yes exactly this is why I have sought to know this walk, It is hard to explain in words but I feel inside a fire ggrowing a call to be a warrior of faith I believe in the impossible I feel the call to be a warrior of faith I just need help in doing so something that needs to be unlocked or let go I just don't know what it is that is holding me back
Complete death to self is no small hurdle.

1 Corinthians 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

Luke
9:23 And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.

All our fear profits us nothing. We must live under the protective and comforting umbrella He has prepared for us. This is childlike faith. Let yourself fall completely into the arms of you loving Father.

Also remember that the path that He hath chosen for us may be that of a humble and unseen servant. Both Jeremiah and Jesus lived lives filled with rejection. I know it hurts, but we must carry on. Let us walk the rest of the way together.

Luke
24:13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem [about] threescore furlongs.
24:14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
24:15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed [together] and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
 

G00WZ

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I don't really know how to put this but lately God has been placing on my heart the aspect of faith something more than simply believing something more than doctrine I feel; it inside and it moves in my heart. Where is he leading me where is he guiding me? What exactly is this faith he is wanting me to go in? what is stirring inide me? I feel it buyt cannot describe it I get a glimpse of it but cannot see it, how easy it seems it the yoke appears so light yet I cannot perceive it
How I long it top understand how I long to take it as a child does yet I overcomplicate it but I feel the stiring I sense the working inside yet something blocks me something withholds me I don't know ehat it is but something keeps me at bay

Even so as weary as I may be I keep fast to what I know is true and that is that he is God and he will somehow bring to me the teacher I need it may be a simple post online or perhaps a person I will encounter on the way but I can feel a stirring I just don't know the way. I feel a warrior a strenghtemer a life giver inside me yet I cannot bring it out I cannot summon the one I sense inside.

I feel it in my bones I feel it in my soul but who can teache me who can show me the way who has he called to help others like me who sense the call but cannot find it on thier own? I write only to speak my heart and if I should speak my heart then let the ones who were called to teach and build other like me be the ones whom would be willing to speak for I am a stranger in this land and wish not to be lost in the way I should go. Let those who would know of the fire I speak of speak and not be silent so that I in turn may be one who guides those lost in a foreign land such as this for I to feel the calling yet do not know the way
That is Christ in you is what you are looking for my dude, your real identity in Christ, what is blocking you is you. .. Only reason how im able to state that is because i did the exact thing in my journey. I can teach you what i know, practice and have learned and how to get activated.
 

Blain

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That is Christ in you is what you are looking for my dude, your real identity in Christ, what is blocking you is you. .. Only reason how im able to state that is because i did the exact thing in my journey. I can teach you what i know, practice and have learned and how to get activated.
Oh yes I would love for you to teach me any help at all would be fantastic
 

Pilgrimshope

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So I was asked by someone in church about faith and why we don't see miracles anymore and two other people were with us one answered that it isn't for today the other answered it's because of lack of faith. To be honest I didn't have a real answer and it made me think more on the matter. if we go by scripture alone the case for lack of faith makes sense as there is lot of scripture of what happens when one has faith and what happens because of lack thereof but the only thing I can think of for the case of it being because it isn't for today is the verse
1 Corinthians 13:8-10
King James Version

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. but the stances on this verse rely heavily on two different sides of the word completeness.
I too have wondered why we say we believe in the impossible and that we believe in miracles yet never see it. There does seem to be a famine in these things and if I am being honest God has several times been leadding me to this subject and I wish I knew someone to watch a sermon on or knew how to work in this way to learn more but I don't.
See I have a theory I think just how the devil copies and corrupts everything God does he does the same with faith. The prosperity gospel is one I greatly despise and was the main reason I stayed far away from this subject it is self centered and acts like a steering wheel with our will vs God;s mainly enacting self centered things like money sucess and personal prosperity.

But there is a part of me that can't help but feel that solid faith and miracles seeing God's hand move in amazing ways... there is just an itch I cannot scratch something I need to dig deeper and see for myself. Not for things like money or self centered things but actual faith not just saying we believe in the impossible but seeing it in action simply because we had the faith to believe to see the hand of God move in ways we thought were gone which in essence is what faith is supposed to be yet few actually seem to see them relating them to pentecostal or the propserity gospel or just saying it just wasn't his will but what if it was we just didn't give him the faith required?
What do you all think? and if anyone can help me in this area I would greatly appreciate it









8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
if it’s biblical faith that means it can do what the Bible says

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We have to hear first Jesus word and then accept it and believe

“And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭17:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

our natural minds reject that so we find reasons it’s not true but that’s because we aren’t able to yet believe it we are conditioned to believe what the world says is possible

we need to hear and believe the gospel