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Well, children will bounce off walls in their exuberance you know. 
Paul must have felt the same way. Without children you can't get adults. Some just take longer to grow up.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I don't at all get the impression that only 12 spoke in tongues...I get the impression that they all did.
But I guess we can't know for sure.
Some don't ever speak in tongues so...perhaps not they all did. Don't know.
Shrume will have to eat his dinner and then tell us how he arrives at being sure it was only 12. I hope he doesn't have any dessert or we'll be waiting longer.
But I guess we can't know for sure.
Some don't ever speak in tongues so...perhaps not they all did. Don't know.
Shrume will have to eat his dinner and then tell us how he arrives at being sure it was only 12. I hope he doesn't have any dessert or we'll be waiting longer.
well the Book of Acts says acts 1:15
Niv : 15" In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) "
NASB 15: "At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty [r]persons was there together), and said,
KJV: 15 " And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Now are we move into Chapter twone " they were all with one accord in one place.
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
there in more contextual understanding of about 120 as Acts 1 states then there is just the 12 speaking. And spoke in more than 12 languges recorded in Acts 2:9-11 which they were people from many religions this would explain how so many were saved .
Niv : 15" In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) "
NASB 15: "At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty [r]persons was there together), and said,
KJV: 15 " And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Now are we move into Chapter two
ne " they were all with one accord in one place.And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
there in more contextual understanding of about 120 as Acts 1 states then there is just the 12 speaking. And spoke in more than 12 languges recorded in Acts 2:9-11 which they were people from many religions this would explain how so many were saved .
well the Book of Acts says acts 1:15
Niv : 15" In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) "
NASB 15: "At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty [r]persons was there together), and said,
KJV: 15 " And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Now are we move into Chapter twone " they were all with one accord in one place.
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
there in more contextual understanding of about 120 as Acts 1 states then there is just the 12 speaking. And spoke in more than 12 languges recorded in Acts 2:9-11 which they were people from many religions this would explain how so many were saved .
Niv : 15" In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) "
NASB 15: "At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty [r]persons was there together), and said,
KJV: 15 " And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Now are we move into Chapter two
ne " they were all with one accord in one place.And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
there in more contextual understanding of about 120 as Acts 1 states then there is just the 12 speaking. And spoke in more than 12 languges recorded in Acts 2:9-11 which they were people from many religions this would explain how so many were saved .
well the Book of Acts says acts 1:15
Niv : 15" In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) "
NASB 15: "At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty [r]persons was there together), and said,
KJV: 15 " And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Now are we move into Chapter twone " they were all with one accord in one place.
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
there in more contextual understanding of about 120 as Acts 1 states then there is just the 12 speaking. And spoke in more than 12 languges recorded in Acts 2:9-11 which they were people from many religions this would explain how so many were saved .
Niv : 15" In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) "
NASB 15: "At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty [r]persons was there together), and said,
KJV: 15 " And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Now are we move into Chapter two
ne " they were all with one accord in one place.And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
there in more contextual understanding of about 120 as Acts 1 states then there is just the 12 speaking. And spoke in more than 12 languges recorded in Acts 2:9-11 which they were people from many religions this would explain how so many were saved .
For the cause of Christ
Roger
If I have desire to insult anyone. We were in fact talking about children. I always look forward to your participation in the conversation.
Paul in his letter to the Corinthians was not commending them for their Spiritual maturity. Paul is writing to correct a string of errors known to be in the church at Corinth and hindering the grown of the church.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Paul in his letter to the Corinthians was not commending them for their Spiritual maturity. Paul is writing to correct a string of errors known to be in the church at Corinth and hindering the grown of the church.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I'm going to disagree with you on this because what does the term edifying mean in the book of 1Cor. 14 ? Yet it also says the church, so in this case we could look at it two ways the first being the church as a building and in this building you have the saved and unsaved. Secondly we can look at it as the body of believers because they are called the church also.
So when people are speaking a tongue how are they edifying the true believers and yet we know without a shadow of a doubt that it is God who is giving these people the words to speak so with that in mind we should be letting other true believers all around this great world know what God has revealed to them in this tongue. Because this is the word of God and in all reality it should be added to the Bible so that other true believers can be edified.
Now on the other hand you and I do not know who the true believers are in the church so when one does speak then they would be in a sense edifying the unbelievers in the church because we don't know if it might be that this individual could become saved by these words that God has given this person and yet again it should be added into the Bible because God has spoken. Also remember the word of God is not for private interpretation. [2Pt 1:20]
According to Jn. 21:25 there were many other things that Christ did and yet were not put in the Bible because if it were so then the world could not contain everything that Christ had done. We know from Rev. 22:18 that tongues have ceased, that is to say when the Bible was completed tongues as described in 1Cor. 14 would be no more. Now if someone is have a super natural experience of speaking in tongues it is of assurance that these word did not come from God, it could be just a figment of their imagination as of the fact that their pastor said you have to move your mouth this way and say this words or it could be from Satan himself because he comes as Angel of light and it would be virtually impossible to distinguish if this was from him or God.
So when people are speaking a tongue how are they edifying the true believers and yet we know without a shadow of a doubt that it is God who is giving these people the words to speak so with that in mind we should be letting other true believers all around this great world know what God has revealed to them in this tongue. Because this is the word of God and in all reality it should be added to the Bible so that other true believers can be edified.
Now on the other hand you and I do not know who the true believers are in the church so when one does speak then they would be in a sense edifying the unbelievers in the church because we don't know if it might be that this individual could become saved by these words that God has given this person and yet again it should be added into the Bible because God has spoken. Also remember the word of God is not for private interpretation. [2Pt 1:20]
According to Jn. 21:25 there were many other things that Christ did and yet were not put in the Bible because if it were so then the world could not contain everything that Christ had done. We know from Rev. 22:18 that tongues have ceased, that is to say when the Bible was completed tongues as described in 1Cor. 14 would be no more. Now if someone is have a super natural experience of speaking in tongues it is of assurance that these word did not come from God, it could be just a figment of their imagination as of the fact that their pastor said you have to move your mouth this way and say this words or it could be from Satan himself because he comes as Angel of light and it would be virtually impossible to distinguish if this was from him or God.