Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

[Truth7t7]

Well which one do we need to cut out of the Bible, the one BEFORE the thousand year reign or the one AFTER the thousand year reign?

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The "Non-Literal" thousand years is taking place Now in the Lords spiritual realm of "No Earthly Time" and the first resurrection seen in Revelation 20:5 takes place immediately after the future tribulation on the last day.

No Time in The Lords Spiritual Realm, One day Is A Thousand Years, Will You Be Ignorant?

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

"Two" resurrections are seen below, The righteous are blessed To be in the "First Resurrection" to eternal life.

There is "One" future time of resurrection for all that have lived, both righteous and wicked Daniel 12:1-2, John 5:28-29

This takes place immediately after the tribulation, at the second coming of Jesus Christ, Matthew 24:29-31

Daniel below clearly shows this last day resurrection, at the time of tribulation, the books are open, righteous and wicked.

Last Day Resurrection Of All!

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Last Day Resurrection Of All!

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Last Day Resurrection Of All!

Matthew 24:29-31KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Last Day Resurrection Of All!

John 6:40KJV
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

[KJV1611]

The "Non-Literal" thousand years is taking place Now in the Lords spiritual realm of "No Earthly Time" and the first resurrection seen in Revelation 20:5 takes place immediately after the future tribulation on the last day.

No Time in The Lords Spiritual Realm, One day Is A Thousand Years, Will You Be Ignorant?

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

"Two" resurrections are seen below, The righteous are blessed To be in the "First Resurrection" to eternal life.

There is "One" future time of resurrection for all that have lived, both righteous and wicked Daniel 12:1-2, John 5:28-29

This takes place immediately after the tribulation, at the second coming of Jesus Christ, Matthew 24:29-31

Daniel below clearly shows this last day resurrection, at the time of tribulation, the books are open, righteous and wicked.

Last Day Resurrection Of All!

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Last Day Resurrection Of All!

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Last Day Resurrection Of All!

Matthew 24:29-31KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Last Day Resurrection Of All!

John 6:40KJV
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

When did the "Non-Literal" thousand years that are taking place Now in the Lords spiritual realm of "No Earthly Time" begin? When did that start?

 

[Truth7t7]

When did the "Non-Literal" thousand years that are taking place Now in the Lords spiritual realm of "No Earthly Time" begin? When did that start?

When do your believe Jesus Christ began to reign?

He is the Alpha & Omega?

Exodus 15:18KJV
18 The Lord shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[KJV1611]

When do your believe Jesus Christ began to reign?

He is the Alpha & Omega?

Exodus 15:18KJV
18 The Lord shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

According to verse 5, the thousand years isn’t eternal, it has and end. How do you handle this? I mean the 1000 years CAN NOT be Jesus Christ’s eternal kingdom because his eternal kingdom is eternal.

 

[Truth7t7]

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

According to verse 5, the thousand years isn’t eternal, it has and end. How do you handle this? I mean the 1000 years CAN NOT be Jesus Christ’s eternal kingdom because his eternal kingdom is eternal.

The realm of "Eternity" is explained to the human mind in 2 Peter 3:8, One Day is a Thousand Years (NO EARTHLY TIME) ETERNAL

Example: One Second is a Zillion years, same expression to mans human mind in the 21st century lingo for (ETERNAL)

No Time in The Lords Spiritual Realm, One day Is A Thousand Years, Will You Be Ignorant?

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[KJV1611]

The realm of "Eternity" is explained to the human mind in 2 Peter 3:8, One Day is a Thousand Years (NO EARTHLY TIME) ETERNAL

Example: One Second is a Zillion years, same expression to mans human mind in the 21st century lingo for (ETERNAL)

No Time in The Lords Spiritual Realm, One day Is A Thousand Years, Will You Be Ignorant?

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So are you saying that there is no end of the millennial reign?

 

[JamOn]

To deny a future coming of Jesus Christ in the heavens as (Full Preterist) do is heresy!

2Peter 3:3-7KJV
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

red man uses script to slander hmm and the odor raises

 

[KJV1611]

red man uses script to slander hmm and the odor raises

He’s gonna understand it soon hopefully, when he sees all the Bible verses he totally ignores to support his view.

 

[Truth7t7]

red man uses script to slander hmm and the odor raises

There is no slander or odor to God's words of truth

 

[Truth7t7]

He’s gonna understand it soon hopefully, when he sees all the Bible verses he totally ignores to support his view.

How could you deny that there is no future coming of Jesus Christ in the heavens, and you have stated its not seen in the Holy Bible.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

[iamsoandso]

So are you saying that there is no end of the millennial reign?

This millennial reign,,who's reign is it and will it end? There is this kingdom https://biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/2-44.htm do you believe you are in it now or do you think the one you are in now will end?

 

[KJV1611]

How could you deny that there is no future coming of Jesus Christ in the heavens, and you have stated its not seen in the Holy Bible.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

What you keep quoting happened at the resurrection of Christ.

 

[KJV1611]

This millennial reign,,who's reign is it and will it end? There is this kingdom https://biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/2-44.htm do you believe you are in it now or do you think the one you are in now will end?

I am in it now and yes it does have an end according to the Bible. The millennial reign for me ends just prior to me being translated to heaven. After that, Satan will be loosed for a very very short time to kill my body. Satan is our DNA. That’s why the Israelites looked up at the serpent on the pole after they had been bitten. The serpent on the pole is Jesus coming in the flesh with human DNA.

 

[KJV1611]

Also, the serpent spoke exactly 46 words to Eve in the garden in the King James Bible. Not only was the serpent in the garden, he was also in the king of Tyrus and in Peter when Jesus said “get thee behind me Satan.

 

[KJV1611]

Multiple other examples in the Bible but I have to go to bed, have to get up early in the morning and go fishing.

 

[iamsoandso]

I am in it now and yes it does have an end according to the Bible. The millennial reign for me ends just prior to me being translated to heaven. After that, Satan will be loosed for a very very short time to kill my body. Satan is our DNA. That’s why the Israelites looked up at the serpent on the pole after they had been bitten. The serpent on the pole is Jesus coming in the flesh with human DNA.

I'm not following you maybe. You said your "in it now" but then the Mill. reign will end how can it be that Jesus sets up his kingdom and then it comes to an end if Daniel 2:44 says it wont ever be destroyed?

 

[Truth7t7]

Multiple other examples in the Bible but I have to go to bed, have to get up early in the morning and go fishing.

We have two things in common, the KJV and I'm gonna kill some fish tomorrow, good luck.

 

[garee]

I'm not following you maybe. You said your "in it now" but then the Mill. reign will end how can it be that Jesus sets up his kingdom and then it comes to an end if Daniel 2:44 says it wont ever be destroyed?

We are in the last days the millennium reign (a unknown) We are not to number days or people rather than walking by faith .As those who seek after signs and wonders.

The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of God in the new heavens and earth on the last day .That new kingdom will not be destroyed. The letter of the law "death" will be tossed into the fiery judgment of God never to rise and condemn through corruption another entire creation .

 

[garee]

I am in it now and yes it does have an end according to the Bible. The millennial reign for me ends just prior to me being translated to heaven. After that, Satan will be loosed for a very very short time to kill my body. Satan is our DNA. That’s why the Israelites looked up at the serpent on the pole after they had been bitten. The serpent on the pole is Jesus coming in the flesh with human DNA.

I would agree Satan the man of sin needs corrupted human flesh "DNA" to show he is the god of this world .

Interesting .Those who had the Spirit of Christ working in them the Holy Spirit turned to look at the object of sin exposing the father lies . Unlike in the garden using DNA to condemn those under the letter of the law .

 

[iamsoandso]

We are in the last days the millennium reign (a unknown) We are not to number days or people rather than walking by faith .As those who seek after signs and wonders.

The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of God in the new heavens and earth on the last day .That new kingdom will not be destroyed. The letter of the law "death" will be tossed into the fiery judgment of God never to rise and condemn through corruption another entire creation .

Then according to what your saying the world is at this point in time under the fourth kingdom(Two legs,ten toes/ten kingdoms ect.) and the stone cut out and cast at them is future tense meaning that the kingdom now present is not the same as "the one that will never be destroyed"?