Are you completely Born again????

[watcher2013]

You assume the thief on the cross was baptized?

No the thief was not baptized...and even he get baptized that day.. it has no power..nadda..for Christ must to die and rose again for that baptism to be not in vain

Lets say a man about to die hears the gospel but cant move... oh welp for him its too late... no time to be born of water.🤦‍♂️.

how much time you need to get baptized?
How long have that man lived?
he believed because he is about to die?
God will make a way if a man truly believes.

Your false religion of man is nonsense and far from God.


Water baptism isnt birth.

as I said..it is not birth..but BURIAL

 

[OneOfHis]

No

Ill pray God opens your eyes and you stop looking to the world for religious knowledge opposed to God for truth.

We are saved by grace through faith and not by works of righteousness which we do. (that includes water baptism which is not being born of water or being born of flesh as you falsely claim with youe favorite false youtube teacher)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

do you break bread (lord suffer) with others?

To be saved? No. It’s not required to be saved

I do it because I am saved

 

[watcher2013]

To be saved? No. It’s not required to be saved

I do it because I am saved

no i am not talking about to be saved...why you break bread..

 

[watcher2013]

Wrong. Youre talking about crazy nonsense.


It is not biblical.

The simplicity of Christ is so pure a child can understand it.

No one needs some crazy whack job to tell them how to properly be baptized for 40 minutes.


You are blind and decieved and I pray God opens your eyes.


Right now you trust in the works of man for salvation.


I will continue to follow scripture and trust in Christ.

were the apostles deceived when they baptized those who believes?

 

[mailmandan]

as in the video...
repentance...believing that Jesus is the Son of God..and believing every word peter said at the house of cornelius...is the criteria for baptism

Repentance precedes faith in Jesus Christ. Acts 20:21 - testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ...and believing in Christ for salvation is the criteria for baptism. (Acts 10:43-47; 11:17,18)

 

[watcher2013]

Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


(EXCEPT a man be BORN not dipped in water AGAIN as in a second time REFERRING TO THE FIRST BIRTH HE cannot SEE the kingdom of God never having a quickened spirit)



"born of water" is = to "born of flesh"....


3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

(Jesus is using physical birth as an earthly example to help the spiritually blind nicodemus see His point)

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

(again Nicodemus is unable to understand this spiritual lesson even with an earthly example of birth so he uses his earthly reasoning to question Jesus about being born of flesh two times).

If you just read thoroughly...
Nicodemus ask " how can a man be born again when he is old"...in here he understand that Jesus was talking about a fully grown man...
so follows the next question...can he enter the second time into his mother's...or in other words, can he be physically born again?
now Jesus answered

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

(still speaking of brith and trying to relate the two.... born of water = anatomical fluid =born of flesh and born of the Spirit = when God makes His children new).

Except a man (fully grown man) be born of water and spirit...it make no sense to say born of water is physical birth again...

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

(again further explaining the two births.... born of flesh/born of water = natural birth Spirit = born of God)


7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again......

this is what it meant..
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body (born of flesh), and there is a spiritual body (born of Spirit)

Now here is how the video shows this.
You must be born again....
A fully grown man cannot enter into his mothers womb and be born again...
We are all dead man...because death was passed into all man

a fully grown (dead man) to be born again,,need to bury that old man..
and we buried that old man in baptism romans 6....(Born of water)
and as we buried the old man we planted a new man (conception)
afterwards we are sealed with the holy spirit...(breath to new man)
then at resurrection we received that new spiritual body (born of spirit)

 

[watcher2013]

Repentance precedes faith in Jesus Christ. Acts 20:21 - testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ...and believing in Christ for salvation is the criteria for baptism. (Acts 10:43-47; 11:17,18)

I agree as in the video.

 

[OneOfHis]

If you just read thoroughly...
Nicodemus ask " how can a man be born again when he is old"...in here he understand that Jesus was talking about a fully grown man...
so follows the next question...can he enter the second time into his mother's...or in other words, can he be physically born again?

Dur.... I explained this to you 4 times.


Nicodemus is speaking of physical birth twice.


Jesus is speaking of physical birth (born of water/flesh) then spiritual birth (born of spirit)

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

[OneOfHis]

were the apostles deceived when they baptized those who believes?

Nope just you with your false doctrine. (you have been decieved by worldly videos on youtube)

 

[watcher2013]

Nope just you with your false doctrine.

thank you

 

[watcher2013]

Dur.... I explained this to you 4 times.


Nicodemus is speaking of physical birth twice.


Jesus is speaking of physical birth (born of water/flesh) then spiritual birth (born of spirit)

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

and you making no sense 4 times

 

[OneOfHis]

thank you

You're welcome. I pray God delivers you from your false teaching and uses you for truth one day.

 

[watcher2013]

You're welcome. I pray God delivers you from your false teaching and uses you for truth one day.

appreciated

 

[ForestGreenCook]

While the church is growing...here paul said..
1Co 15:25 KJV For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

He must reign...future reign..kingdom

Jesus put all things under his feet when he was raised from the dead, Eph 1:20-23. There is no future kingdom of Christ. He has been reigning as King over his kingdom, the church, from the time he first set it up.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Why then baptise them if believing is enuf???

why assemble together. Why pray without ceasing. Why break bread
because as with all of Gods command he
Want us to do

Its not spiritual..but rather poetic/allegoric statement.
lets just quote col 2..

Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

You forgot to highlight the most important part
this baptism Is performed by the operation of God who raised him from the dead

Your pastor did not raise Jesus from the dead. My baptism/spiritual circumcision
Was by the hand of God who raised him from the dead (spirit baptism)

 

[watcher2013]

Jesus put all things under his feet when he was raised from the dead, Eph 1:20-23. There is no future kingdom of Christ. He has been reigning as King over his kingdom, the church, from the time he first set it up.

HE MUSt...

 

[Adstar]

Is baptism required for salvation?

Baptism of the Holy Spirit is required..

 

[watcher2013]

why assemble together. Why pray without ceasing. Why break bread
because as with all of Gods command he
Want us to do

so baptism is God command he want us to do..

You forgot to highlight the most important part

this baptism Is performed by the operation of God who raised him from the dead

Your pastor did not raise Jesus from the dead. My baptism/spiritual circumcision
Was by the hand of God who raised him from the dead (spirit baptism)

have you not see it yet...when baptism is mentioned it direct us to the death of Christ.

 

[Adstar]

what does it mean by Born of water?

Born of water is to be born from your mother.. Part of the birth process is the breaking of the woman's waters. The Baby is held in a sack of salt water in their mothers womb until the time of birth..