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NayborBear

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
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7seasrekeyed said:
sounds more like a prob with sanctification

the Greek for 'saved' (you prob know this) is actually covering all 3 tenses

have been, are and will be

I am no expert in Greek but neither is the op so let's all walk in circles and bump into each other :geek:
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K? Let's go your way.
Does "salvation by grace through faith", mean the believer is "sanctified?"
Or, does the "process/es" of becoming sanctified just "happen?
Or, does one have to put forth "efforts", to become sanctified.
If the answer is yes! One does have to put forth "effort/s" in becoming sanctified.
Can you see how these "efforts", can be viewed by some as "works for salvation?"
Or, "works in maintaining salvation?"
Overcoming DEMANDS "works" or "efforts" TOWARDS sanctification.

That being said. Is one who has not gained any sanctification, yet believes, NOT saved?
GOD FORBID!

This is where, and when, modern Christendom throws "the elect under the bus!"

This is when "being wise in their own conceits", teaches "You ARE SAVED!" "No need, to waste time and energy!" As they look down their nose/s at those "dummies", who put forth efforts in their "working for salvation." As they "fleece the flock", at their own discretion! :mad:


 
NayborBear

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#102
Dec 6, 2015
2,626
775
113
A deplorable! (so you know, what "state" I'm in!)
#102
Pisteuo said:
Traditions make void the word of God!

The rod of iron is called a " tribulum," the rod that is used to beat wheat from the chaff. It's also where we get the word " tribulation".
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Don't care what term or word you use, from any language. ;)

The "definition" is the same! :p

Apostasy and traditions of man ocurrs, WHEN, the false wheat strives to "bring back the chaff", to "cover itself with!" It cannot let itself become exposed to the "Lord of the Harvest!"
 
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7seasrekeyed

Guest
#103
#103
NayborBear said:
K? Let's go your way.
Does "salvation by grace through faith", mean the believer is "sanctified?"
Or, does the "process/es" of becoming sanctified just "happen?
Or, does one have to put forth "efforts", to become sanctified.
If the answer is yes! One does have to put forth "effort/s" in becoming sanctified.
Can you see how these "efforts", can be viewed by some as "works for salvation?"
Or, "works in maintaining salvation?"
Overcoming DEMANDS "works" or "efforts" TOWARDS sanctification.

That being said. Is one who has not gained any sanctification, yet believes, NOT saved?
GOD FORBID!

This is where, and when, modern Christendom throws "the elect under the bus!"

This is when "being wise in their own conceits", teaches "You ARE SAVED!" "No need, to waste time and energy!" As they look down their nose/s at those "dummies", who put forth efforts in their "working for salvation." As they "fleece the flock", at their own discretion! :mad:
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you are going way beyond what I posted and muddying up the waters

there is such a thing as overthinking to the point of either not being sure or making it so complicated it cannot accepted

it's not my way and if you dispute something, welcome to it

but I don't think you can show differently from scripture

works don't save and they do not keep you saved

you prob don't want to bother and that's fine...but I totally addressed all of that in just the last couple of days in another thread
 
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7seasrekeyed

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#105
seed_time_harvest said:
I guess I’m not computer literate as I would like.
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you don't need to learn all there is unless you are going to be building a site and using html to create it...or simply code

I did build a couple of wp (wordpress) sites that way and I enjoyed it

wordpress is what is called an open source, meaning anyone can create things for it that others can purchase or even use freely, whereas this site is not open source. we are using a platform that has been coded and you abide by the structure of said code

if you look at the top extreme right, you will see the little cog wheel that if you click on it says toggle BB code. if you click it, that would provide you with the ability to write simple code for what you are writing in a post

bolded text
italicized text
underlined text



but the simpler option is to use the provided options along the top or upper margin of a post, like the colors, underscored, size of font and so on

most people will not go that route and no need for them to do so
 
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