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More opinion with no scripture.
Here’s my scripture that refutes the unbiblical theory that there were no apostles until after the ascension.
And when He had called His twelve disciples to Him, He gave them power overunclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease. 2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; 3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; 4 Simon the Cananite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him.
5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 6 But go rather to thelost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick,cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 9 Provide neither gold nor silver nor copper in your money belts, 10 nor bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor staffs; for a worker is worthy of his food.
Matthew 10:1-10
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Here’s my scripture that refutes the unbiblical theory that there were no apostles until after the ascension.
And when He had called His twelve disciples to Him, He gave them power overunclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease. 2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; 3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; 4 Simon the Cananite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him.
5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 6 But go rather to thelost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick,cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 9 Provide neither gold nor silver nor copper in your money belts, 10 nor bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor staffs; for a worker is worthy of his food.
Matthew 10:1-10
JPT
the "apostles " who were the Disciples of Jesus all saw HIM in the resurrected Body they were Eyewitnesses to this which PAUL was too. all are saved as we are and as they were amen. But the context of an Apostle and the office of an apostle in eph 4:11 mean two different things . Which was stated earlier
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I attended Faith Fellowship for a couple of years. Over the door of the head pastor' office door was a brass plate inscribed, "Apostle David T. Demola". This I posted on the news of his death:
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-demola-died-oops-he-had-no-authority.163960/
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-demola-died-oops-he-had-no-authority.163960/
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OK THANKS, I won't give a reaction because I don't want it taken taken wrong way but, 
I am sorry if i have offended you. I am learning that this is a forum for discussion and learning, But most people i have encountered are teaching as if God gave them the secret and only them, I am noticing that i am doing the same thing. I know what i believe, i'm not sure how to plant seeds, which is what im trying to do here, Please forgive me and be patient with me. I will get better.
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