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There is doctrine for the intended audience. If one calls another a fool, they are in danger of hell fire. Is this true about the body of Christ? Paul better hope not.
Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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no not really. you are the one with the system
I have a Bible and the testimony of millions of Christians that Jesus is the way. you have a gospel less understanding which is worse than none at all
you mock the words of Jesus as you do in the post above; don't tell me what I believe. the more astonishing thing is what you do not believe
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that is interesting since I have had you on ignore for months now and only took you off ignore when you appeared in my op
personal attacks are stock in trade for people like you who cannot answer properly
you start name calling and then say the other person did it.
that is one reason I had you on ignore in the first place. you cannot be truthful and you start trying to get personal rather than stick to the op
the other person is Hebrew Roots and got royally angry when I posted scripture that indicates the problems with that
if you want to take sides to counter a person with nasty comments, that indicates you are just plain not able to respond with scripture
like her
well, you are back on ignore where I should have left you
you and your pal Johnny
personal attacks are stock in trade for people like you who cannot answer properly
you start name calling and then say the other person did it.
that is one reason I had you on ignore in the first place. you cannot be truthful and you start trying to get personal rather than stick to the op
the other person is Hebrew Roots and got royally angry when I posted scripture that indicates the problems with that
if you want to take sides to counter a person with nasty comments, that indicates you are just plain not able to respond with scripture
like her
well, you are back on ignore where I should have left you
you and your pal Johnny
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HERE IS ANOTHER GREAT POST BY SOMEONE WHO GETS WHAT THE BIBLE IS ABOUT
Corban, post: 4376928, member: 298250"]It seems to me that our esteemed lenna addressed two different points - both of which are valid. I'll reverse the order for ease of answering.
(1) Attack by infidels on the Person of Christ. This is shortly dispensed with by the historical fact that our Lord Jesus, His Person, His deity, His resurrection, and His very existence is always under attack. We can't stop it, but we should try to equip ourselves with solid answers. But at the end of the day, because our FAITH is based on what is NOT seen (Heb.11:1), we must expect not to convince the infidel.
(2) The opinion of some on this Forum that the contents of the Gospels is largely for Israel, or that they do not address the Christian. This is a far more subtle and dangerous attack because it comes from within our ranks and is mostly well-meaning. The answer to this threat is only slightly less simple than the first.
Because God chose Abraham and made a Covenant with him and his SEED, God was bound by His Words to approach Israel with the Solution to all the earth's problems - Jesus Messiah. So it is true that our Lord Jesus FIRST approached Israel with the glory and benefits of (i) sin and sins being dealt with, and (ii) His coming Kingdom as promised in Daniel. One would remove the main problem that Israel faced and which had caused their crisis - sin and sins, and once that was dealt with, Israel would again be elevated to leading and invincible Nation among the nations. But you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. But by Matthew Chapter 12, our Lord Jesus had been fully rejected and accused of being the emissary of Beelzebub. The Chapter ends with our Lord Jesus severing His connection with His brethren by the flesh.
From this moment on, our Lord Jesus starts to work with a NEW assembly which He calls His DISCIPLES. And the Lord shortly reveals a NEW assembly called "The Church". The three synoptic gospels reveal the Man Jesus in His role as King, Servant and normal Man in dealing with the SAME problems that faced Israel - namely, sin and sins, and the coming Kingdom. This time though, His teaching is directed at the NEW Assembly called His DISCIPLES. The fourth gospel, that of John, reveals Christ's deity for the purpose of returning man to his first estate in Eden - eating from the Tree of Life and thus have an orgainic union with God to be equipped to be in the image and likeness of God, and to be "up to the standard of Christ" to be His Bride.
What we have on the Forum is mostly people who have not seen this. They have not lifted up like an eagle to view the grand vista of God's purpose. They, for more than one reason, very often not their fault, stayed in the multifaceted puzzle of God's divine Revelation and have to contend daily with ... a PUZZLE. The solution is that that (i) we DEBATE, and (ii) that each attempts to be honest and accepting of a logical structured argument that leads to a logical end. And when we are forced to change our mind by this honesty, that we do not let that every present PRIDE cloud our judgment.
But THAT ... the matter of pride, is almost invincible. And THAT ... is why this problem will also not be solved in our time. The last Church is Laodicea. Matters will get worse before they get better. But let the DEBATE go on. We are bound to TESTIFY.
Corban, post: 4376928, member: 298250"]It seems to me that our esteemed lenna addressed two different points - both of which are valid. I'll reverse the order for ease of answering.
(1) Attack by infidels on the Person of Christ. This is shortly dispensed with by the historical fact that our Lord Jesus, His Person, His deity, His resurrection, and His very existence is always under attack. We can't stop it, but we should try to equip ourselves with solid answers. But at the end of the day, because our FAITH is based on what is NOT seen (Heb.11:1), we must expect not to convince the infidel.
(2) The opinion of some on this Forum that the contents of the Gospels is largely for Israel, or that they do not address the Christian. This is a far more subtle and dangerous attack because it comes from within our ranks and is mostly well-meaning. The answer to this threat is only slightly less simple than the first.
Because God chose Abraham and made a Covenant with him and his SEED, God was bound by His Words to approach Israel with the Solution to all the earth's problems - Jesus Messiah. So it is true that our Lord Jesus FIRST approached Israel with the glory and benefits of (i) sin and sins being dealt with, and (ii) His coming Kingdom as promised in Daniel. One would remove the main problem that Israel faced and which had caused their crisis - sin and sins, and once that was dealt with, Israel would again be elevated to leading and invincible Nation among the nations. But you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. But by Matthew Chapter 12, our Lord Jesus had been fully rejected and accused of being the emissary of Beelzebub. The Chapter ends with our Lord Jesus severing His connection with His brethren by the flesh.
From this moment on, our Lord Jesus starts to work with a NEW assembly which He calls His DISCIPLES. And the Lord shortly reveals a NEW assembly called "The Church". The three synoptic gospels reveal the Man Jesus in His role as King, Servant and normal Man in dealing with the SAME problems that faced Israel - namely, sin and sins, and the coming Kingdom. This time though, His teaching is directed at the NEW Assembly called His DISCIPLES. The fourth gospel, that of John, reveals Christ's deity for the purpose of returning man to his first estate in Eden - eating from the Tree of Life and thus have an orgainic union with God to be equipped to be in the image and likeness of God, and to be "up to the standard of Christ" to be His Bride.
What we have on the Forum is mostly people who have not seen this. They have not lifted up like an eagle to view the grand vista of God's purpose. They, for more than one reason, very often not their fault, stayed in the multifaceted puzzle of God's divine Revelation and have to contend daily with ... a PUZZLE. The solution is that that (i) we DEBATE, and (ii) that each attempts to be honest and accepting of a logical structured argument that leads to a logical end. And when we are forced to change our mind by this honesty, that we do not let that every present PRIDE cloud our judgment.
But THAT ... the matter of pride, is almost invincible. And THAT ... is why this problem will also not be solved in our time. The last Church is Laodicea. Matters will get worse before they get better. But let the DEBATE go on. We are bound to TESTIFY.
Mat 19
14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 10:14
But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
Plainly and clearly interchangeable
Paul,under your prism,is a heretic
14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 10:14
But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
Plainly and clearly interchangeable
Paul,under your prism,is a heretic
No man has entered the eternal promised land . As sons of God we are not what we will be, no longer male and female Jew not gentile. .
A man must be born again inwardly of the Spirit of Christ. If any man has not the Spirit of Christ then he is not of God.
Romans 2:28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:2 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
The outward Jews according to the corrupted flesh like all the nations have not entered the eternal propmised land the heavenly Zion. The city prepared for his bride made up of all the nations of the world. All die having not received the promise. Hebrew 11:38
Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
In Acts our father in heaven renamed his bride Christian, previously called her Israel . Not all Israel are born again Jews .
Christian a more befitting name for all the nations. Literally meanly without adding other meaning. the bride as residents of the heavenly city named after her husband and founder Christ.
Outward Jews according to corrupted flesh of mankind have returned to the temporal land. They are in dire need of hearing the gospel The way I understand a person would be hard pressed to find the new testament in a local book store.
A man must be born again inwardly of the Spirit of Christ. If any man has not the Spirit of Christ then he is not of God.
Romans 2:28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:2 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
The outward Jews according to the corrupted flesh like all the nations have not entered the eternal propmised land the heavenly Zion. The city prepared for his bride made up of all the nations of the world. All die having not received the promise. Hebrew 11:38
Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
In Acts our father in heaven renamed his bride Christian, previously called her Israel . Not all Israel are born again Jews .
Christian a more befitting name for all the nations. Literally meanly without adding other meaning. the bride as residents of the heavenly city named after her husband and founder Christ.
Outward Jews according to corrupted flesh of mankind have returned to the temporal land. They are in dire need of hearing the gospel The way I understand a person would be hard pressed to find the new testament in a local book store.