Angels can procreate

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Couples I have talked to and an experience I had once.
Which Church Denomination, System, Program did you attend where it made you afraid of intimacy and women? Is this Wesleyan, Baptist, Catholic?
 

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It's amazing how some Christians lower the sex act to the level of animals. Of a man and a women, GOD said "The two shall become one" He did not say that about animals having sex.
He didn't say that about humans having sex either- he said that about marriage.
 

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I have heard repeatedly in church that angels cannot procreate. That is not true, according to the bible.

"when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown." Genesis 6:4. It had nothing to do with them being fallen angels. They were able to have children.
It doesn’t even mention angels in this verse

the sons of God are mankind adam for instance

“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭

The Bible is actually very clear there is. I single verse ever saying the equivalent of any angel in fact the scriptire makes that point

“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.


For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:2, 4-5‬ ‭

arhat has never happened God has never called an angel his son infact the “son “ of God us a higher name than an angel of God the chh he listen of God are those he made in his image only one species of creation thats man

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


The line of the son of God is mankind angels were never created in his image
 

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We know Angels are called morning stars. Here, the Hebrew calls the morning stars Sons of God!

7 when the morning stars sang together,
and all the Sons of God shouted for joy?
 
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My curiosity is getting the better of me...
How would you know what sex between a man and woman should be, if you've never been married?
You speak as an authority on the subject, yet you say you've never found a woman that is "right" for you to marry...
I'm beginning to wonder if you are here mainly for the titillation of "talking sex"....
I have nothing against discussing sex in a Biblical context... but you seem to see everything only as it relates to having sex.....
It's beginning to wear thin....
Yes agree with your points, but for me it wore thin after the first thread.
 

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Which Church Denomination, System, Program did you attend where it made you afraid of intimacy and women? Is this Wesleyan, Baptist, Catholic?
I have never been afraid of intimacy. The purity movement is and so are many churches.
 

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Not when you use a Bible based off the Hellenized Greek. But if you use the factual Tanakh, you will find it in a multitude of places. Here's quick couple right off the back.

Genesis 6:
2 then the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were good and they took for themselves wives, any they chose.

Psalm 82
God has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:
6 I said, “You are gods,
sons of the Most High
, all of you;
7 nevertheless, like men you shall die,
Will you hearken to Jesus? is He an authority? He when questioned about marriage in heaven He said "women will be as the angels in heaven they neither give nor are they given in marriage"

No sex in heaven

If someone will say that angels fell by taking upon themselves flesh and blood I would ask where they got the creative power from?
 

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John, have you ever been married?

(sorry, I know someone asked several questions and you answered, but I can't recall if this was one of them. I tried to look back here, but then realized it must have been in one of your other sex threads)
I have never been married.
 

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Will you hearken to Jesus? is He an authority? He when questioned about marriage in heaven He said "women will be as the angels in heaven they neither give nor are they given in marriage"

No sex in heaven

If someone will say that angels fell by taking upon themselves flesh and blood I would ask where they got the creative power from?
the whole issue is that we don’t first read the things we’re explaining

“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

When God created all creation he made one final creation to rule over what he had made he made this particular creature in a distinct way different from any other creature the lord had made

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:26-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is the origin and meaning of the terminology “ the sons of God “ they are the single and only creature created in his image and likeness.

God having to sons isnt the same as when a man has a son through pro creation , Gods children are those he created in his image and likeness and gave freedom and dominion on earth and rule over all the other creatures of earth just as God the father rules all of heaven , man his son is meant to rule all the earth in his nature of goodness and truth and peace for life and not death as man has done

angels were never made in Gods image , God never created an earthly physical Body for them because of this

“being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance ( children inherit ) obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?

And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Hebrews one alone seperates men from angels in that very thing angels aren’t the children of God but his spiritual heavenly servants who worship Jesus the son of God

christians are born into the body of Christ as the sons of God through true worship of the true God found in the gospel

Hebrews two then Further cements the seperation of the two creatures distinction again being who the children are

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; ( why he became flesh )that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; ( Jesus the son didn’t become like an angel but the seed of a particular man ) but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s also why angels aren’t the ones being redeemed and offered salvation from sin .

The sons of God were the line of Seth

rhe daughters of men they married were the children of cain who had already been cast out of Gods people and began his own city.

God wants his people to marry and find his people it’s why he forbade intermarriage between israel and other nations who worshipped other gods It’s still not a good idea for instance for a Christian man to seek out and find a witch to marry it’s always going to lead the good astray and corrupt
 

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the whole issue is that we don’t first read the things we’re explaining

“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

When God created all creation he made one final creation to rule over what he had made he made this particular creature in a distinct way different from any other creature the lord had made

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:26-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is the origin and meaning of the terminology “ the sons of God “ they are the single and only creature created in his image and likeness.

God having to sons isnt the same as when a man has a son through pro creation , Gods children are those he created in his image and likeness and gave freedom and dominion on earth and rule over all the other creatures of earth just as God the father rules all of heaven , man his son is meant to rule all the earth in his nature of goodness and truth and peace for life and not death as man has done

angels were never made in Gods image , God never created an earthly physical Body for them because of this

“being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance ( children inherit ) obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?

And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Hebrews one alone seperates men from angels in that very thing angels aren’t the children of God but his spiritual heavenly servants who worship Jesus the son of God

christians are born into the body of Christ as the sons of God through true worship of the true God found in the gospel

Hebrews two then Further cements the seperation of the two creatures distinction again being who the children are

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; ( why he became flesh )that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; ( Jesus the son didn’t become like an angel but the seed of a particular man ) but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s also why angels aren’t the ones being redeemed and offered salvation from sin .

The sons of God were the line of Seth

rhe daughters of men they married were the children of cain who had already been cast out of Gods people and began his own city.

God wants his people to marry and find his people it’s why he forbade intermarriage between israel and other nations who worshipped other gods It’s still not a good idea for instance for a Christian man to seek out and find a witch to marry it’s always going to lead the good astray and corrupt
excellent

And I saw something I hadn't seen before ... Adam AND Eve the sons of God.
 

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I see the purity movement is still a live in the church today. I hate to see people fall for it.
What exactly do you mean by "purity movement"... that was an idea from the late 1800's. I understand that it lingered well into the 1900's and probably still today... but what do you mean by it?
 
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Will you hearken to Jesus? is He an authority? He when questioned about marriage in heaven He said "women will be as the angels in heaven they neither give nor are they given in marriage"

No sex in heaven

If someone will say that angels fell by taking upon themselves flesh and blood I would ask where they got the creative power from?
I did not use those Verses to claim Angels had Sex.

But I will show you a Verse that explains it much better:

6 And the angels—who did not keep their own position of authority but deserted their proper place—He has kept in everlasting shackles under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great Day.
7 In the same way as these angels, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them—having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after a different sort of flesh—are displayed as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire

These Angels in Genesis 6 [[DID NOT HAVE SEX]]...they given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after a different sort of flesh.
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Whether you agree or not, the Holy Spirit, instructed for this to be Written as Reason these Angels are in Chains and Eternal Darkness waiting Judgement Day ... they given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after a different sort of flesh.