And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil
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FreeGrace2 said:
So nothing you say matters at this point.
It seems you are having great difficulty comprehending words. I was obviously referring to your opinions. Neither Jesus, any prophet or any apostle said what you opine.
I haven't attacked the Bible. I have quoted it to REFUTE your opinions.
No, you are misunderstanding and even misreading what they said.
What a hoot. So have you. Dan 12:2 speaks of an eternal contempt. Matt 25:46 speaks of an eternal punishment. Both of which have to be experienced to occur.
Well, I've just said it again, above. Eternal contempt and punishment both refute your opinions.
So nothing you say matters at this point.
It seems you are having great difficulty comprehending words. I was obviously referring to your opinions. Neither Jesus, any prophet or any apostle said what you opine.
I haven't attacked the Bible. I have quoted it to REFUTE your opinions.
No, you are misunderstanding and even misreading what they said.
What a hoot. So have you. Dan 12:2 speaks of an eternal contempt. Matt 25:46 speaks of an eternal punishment. Both of which have to be experienced to occur.
Well, I've just said it again, above. Eternal contempt and punishment both refute your opinions.
You have quite the imagination. God is able to save or destroy. There aren’t any other options. What God wants and what He will do are two different things. You’re tripping over your own shoestrings, pitting Bible verses against Bible verses, again, when they are all in complete harmony. A common tactic of yours. You’re fooling no one.
Get over yourself.
6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
I believe I have nothing left to offer you. You’re free to go laugh hysterically alone on your island of heresy.
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NO CHANCE OF EVERY BEING LOVED BY THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY FOR ALL OF ETERNITY AS YOU NO LONGER EXIST.
NO CHANCE OF EVER SEEING THE NEW HEAVEN AND EARTH
NO CHANCE OF EVER LIVING A LIFE TO WONDERFUL FOR WORDS TO DESCRIBE
NO CHANCE OF EVER HAVING ANOTHER THOUGHT
NO CHANCE OF EVER BEING LOVED BY ANOTHER SOUL
NO CHANCE OF EVER LOVING ANOTHER SOUL
NO CHANCE OF EVER BEING KNOW BY YOUR FAMILY
NO CHANCE OF EVER DOING ANYONE ANY GOOD
COMPLETELY REMOVE YOURSELF FROM HAVING EVER EXISTED BECAUSE THAT IS THE 2ND DEATH.
AND WITH THAT THERE WILL BE NO MEMORY OF YOU AS A LIVING BEING BY A SINGLE SOUL EVER AGAIN. FOR ALL ETERNITY, YOU WILL NEVER TAKE PART IN A SINGLE THOUGHT, ACTION, OR FEELING.
YOU ARE ETERNALLY NOTHING, NO ONE, NOT EVEN A FLEETING THOUGHT.
YOU HAVE VANISHED IN EVERY RESPECT, AS IF YOU HAD NEVER BEEN BORN.
THAT IS ETERNAL DEATH OF A BODY AND SOUL IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.
NOT SOMEONE THAT IS NEVER CONSUMED, NEVER BECOMING SMOKE, NEVER GO UP FOREVER AND EVER
NO CHANCE OF EVER SEEING THE NEW HEAVEN AND EARTH
NO CHANCE OF EVER LIVING A LIFE TO WONDERFUL FOR WORDS TO DESCRIBE
NO CHANCE OF EVER HAVING ANOTHER THOUGHT
NO CHANCE OF EVER BEING LOVED BY ANOTHER SOUL
NO CHANCE OF EVER LOVING ANOTHER SOUL
NO CHANCE OF EVER BEING KNOW BY YOUR FAMILY
NO CHANCE OF EVER DOING ANYONE ANY GOOD
COMPLETELY REMOVE YOURSELF FROM HAVING EVER EXISTED BECAUSE THAT IS THE 2ND DEATH.
AND WITH THAT THERE WILL BE NO MEMORY OF YOU AS A LIVING BEING BY A SINGLE SOUL EVER AGAIN. FOR ALL ETERNITY, YOU WILL NEVER TAKE PART IN A SINGLE THOUGHT, ACTION, OR FEELING.
YOU ARE ETERNALLY NOTHING, NO ONE, NOT EVEN A FLEETING THOUGHT.
YOU HAVE VANISHED IN EVERY RESPECT, AS IF YOU HAD NEVER BEEN BORN.
THAT IS ETERNAL DEATH OF A BODY AND SOUL IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.
NOT SOMEONE THAT IS NEVER CONSUMED, NEVER BECOMING SMOKE, NEVER GO UP FOREVER AND EVER
Lets say I cut off your arm. Until the day you die, your arm remains cut off. I don't have to KEEP cutting off your arm for every minute until you die for IT TO HAVE HAPPENED and for it to continue on and on and on.
ONCE the 'punishment' aka the 'DEATH' has taken place, DEAD you remain forever. The death is ETERNAL. Not the ACT of being killed.
ONCE the 'punishment' aka the 'DEATH' has taken place, DEAD you remain forever. The death is ETERNAL. Not the ACT of being killed.
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THAT'S HOW WE KNOW IT IS GOD GIVEN and not of ourselves. I had never had that thought before. It came out of much 'persecution' of a sort.
I believe this is WHY we have to go through these long debates. Without the other side PUSHING us towards the Truth of what is written, it's hard to get there. But once learned this way, it is never forgotten. I love the ways of GOD. Isn't it funny how once it is revealed it is always so simple it's hard to believe it was missed? THAT is how I know there is so much written that I read over because God has yet to open up my eyes to the truths written there. So I remain open to constant change and growth and continue to BUILD upon the foundation, which in itself REQUIRES us to be willing to grow and expand.
So don't credit me with anything, I believe THIS is a reward given US (sometimes to you and sometimes me, but all for the body) for diligently seeking after HIS TRUTH.
The path is narrow because only WHAT IS WRITTEN is TRUTH, and for thousands of years, the wisdom of man has been taught not WHAT IS WRITTEN. It is only since the words of God were made available to the common man and then computers and the internet that it has become POSSIBLE for us to do what we are doing here. WE ARE TRULY BLESSED indeed to be living here and now and able to do this and willingly open to receive the 'latter day rain' so to speak. Not till the end times would knowledge be opened up just like the book of Daniel was closed until this time. So many people say but that wasn't what the first century church was taught and I say YEAH because GOD tells us they didn't know anything so to follow them would be stupid on our part.
BUT we can't let ourselves forget how HARD it is to let go of any strongly held belief since it is usually tied to others we don't want to let go of. BUT we must go from the MILK to the MEAT and that is a rising up that some will never be able to accomplish because of PRIDE. That first FALL is not only the hardest lesson but is also the most eye opening one. And with that I say thank you for your perseverance here. I understand how difficult it is to do and how heavily it can weigh on the soul not knowing how much is too much while not allowing false doctrine to proceed any further. May God bless you and all your studies...
I believe this is WHY we have to go through these long debates. Without the other side PUSHING us towards the Truth of what is written, it's hard to get there. But once learned this way, it is never forgotten. I love the ways of GOD. Isn't it funny how once it is revealed it is always so simple it's hard to believe it was missed? THAT is how I know there is so much written that I read over because God has yet to open up my eyes to the truths written there. So I remain open to constant change and growth and continue to BUILD upon the foundation, which in itself REQUIRES us to be willing to grow and expand.
So don't credit me with anything, I believe THIS is a reward given US (sometimes to you and sometimes me, but all for the body) for diligently seeking after HIS TRUTH.
The path is narrow because only WHAT IS WRITTEN is TRUTH, and for thousands of years, the wisdom of man has been taught not WHAT IS WRITTEN. It is only since the words of God were made available to the common man and then computers and the internet that it has become POSSIBLE for us to do what we are doing here. WE ARE TRULY BLESSED indeed to be living here and now and able to do this and willingly open to receive the 'latter day rain' so to speak. Not till the end times would knowledge be opened up just like the book of Daniel was closed until this time. So many people say but that wasn't what the first century church was taught and I say YEAH because GOD tells us they didn't know anything so to follow them would be stupid on our part.
BUT we can't let ourselves forget how HARD it is to let go of any strongly held belief since it is usually tied to others we don't want to let go of. BUT we must go from the MILK to the MEAT and that is a rising up that some will never be able to accomplish because of PRIDE. That first FALL is not only the hardest lesson but is also the most eye opening one. And with that I say thank you for your perseverance here. I understand how difficult it is to do and how heavily it can weigh on the soul not knowing how much is too much while not allowing false doctrine to proceed any further. May God bless you and all your studies...
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