I think we can see still how this topic brings people to odds, and is still as heated as ever.
I think some forget, it started (at least what I saw) by a few people (ISIT and PJ) when they made some threads which were apposed to hypergrace. I know myself. I read thinking they were attacking grace, and in one op specifically, I asked for the OP (one of the two above) to show how we believed some things he stated we believed, i then proceded to show him how he was wrong in his understanding of my view. And asked him to explain why he thought I or others like me believed this view. What I got back was a heated, hatefull vengefull response of how evil I was. How wrong I was. And continued slander. It only got worse, it continued, Many followed him and I felt like I was in all out war with a group of people who had utterly no idead what I believed. (Anyone who looks up hypergrace can find these ops. Which is why I mentioned specific people. Because people can see, if I am wrong, I request the mods forgive me and ask them to please remove the names)
All the while. We also had a specific member Angela mentioned in her response. He kept posting these videos of Joseph Prince Which of course fed the war. I and many others basically begged him to stop posting these video’s But he would respond saying so many people appreciated these videos so he would not stop. So it kept going.
It got to the point we had two groups fighting each other No one listening, I myself alienated many people who were my friends because I refused to allow these LIES to continue, hoping and praying the mods would eventually do something, I could not believe they would allow slander like this. Yet I was looking outside, and not helping my own case because I was spouting things myself in anger, and just made things worse, I was just as guilty. It came to the point one group was doing what they could to make certain members mad so they would say something to get them banned, which worked, quite a few good people were banned because of retaliation. Which again, made things worse. Many members, good members left because of all the fighting. And CC stopped being the great place it was to fellowship with members all because of these wars. These wars got so bad, Mods had to also close threads, And other threads were ruined by people on both sides, Where it would get so bad and out of hand those threads to had to be closed, and people from both sides would get banned.
As for should it be reopened? I for one have no desire to see things get to this point I still have old freinds who will not talk to me, or come at me whenever i try to stand up fr my beliefs ar hold people accountable for saying others believe things they do not. Which I have always done But when you lose a reputation because of what happened with HG wars. It is hard to get that back.
Also. We still have members on their HG war, one person (who I have on ignore) still is chosing to tell everyone who believes in grace as following hypergrace. Which means since he already has a preconcieved notion of what others believe, You can never have a conversation, because he will only hear what he wants to hear, And again, This goies on with alot of people. n both sides.. Amd it does nto help one iota people who are trying to have real conversations and real discussion.
I think a member asked why do we not just discuss grace? Discuss Sanctification? Discuss doctrines which are founded by the word. Not doctrines of men, or specific groups of people (ie hypergrace, calvinanism/catholicism/arminianism etc etc) i that such a bad thing?
I do not have time to proofread this post. I have to check in with customer. So i am sure there are many typos, with my fingers or with spellcheck. If you have an issue with my spelling forgive me. I pray you understand what I wanted to say, if you have a question, please ask, do not assume you know.
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