Amillennialists...Here's a chance to state your case.

[Dave-L]

A completely false caricature as they get both, eternal life and their Land Back.
OBTW it is ‘their land strip called Israel in Israel’.

“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)

 

[cv5]

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Scrap that incoherent unscholarly unbiblical rubbish. Here is the REAL DEAL. Nobody knows eschatology better than the master Chuck Missler.

 

[cv5]

Scrap that incoherent unscholarly unbiblical rubbish. Here is the REAL DEAL. Nobody knows eschatology better than the master Chuck Missler.

Lets do this right using the full sessions.

 

[Dave-L]

Scrap that incoherent unscholarly unbiblical rubbish. Here is the REAL DEAL. Nobody knows eschatology better than the master Chuck Missler.

He cannot produce scripture for the gap.

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

Scrap that incoherent unscholarly unbiblical rubbish. Here is the REAL DEAL. Nobody knows eschatology better than the master Chuck Missler.

If he's a dispensationalist, he's wrong. And, he is a dispensationalist. He was a Calvary Chapel pastor. I used to attend a Calvary Chapel, and both him and Dave Hunt were well liked by them.

I just glanced at Wikipedia at Chuck Missler's information. Apparently he publicly admitted that he plagiarized other mens' works for his own books on two separate occasions.

Dave Hunt was another strange character. He wasn't a cultist, but his mentality was somewhat cultic. He tend to be focused on attacking anyone except his particular Plymouth Brethren group. I saw him in a debate with Muslims, where he spent a good share of the first part of the debate claiming he was not like "other Christians", in a derisive manner.

Well, I"m glad he separates himself from me, because I don't believe in his theology in many regards

One funny thing about Hunt is that he hated Reformed theology, yet his full name includes the name of one of the greatest Reformed preachers of all time: David Charles Haddon Hunt.

Charles Haddon Spurgeon was definitely in the top twenty Reformed teachers.

I would love to have asked Dave Hunt about his derision for Reformed people, given the fact that he was named after one of the greatest teachers

I'm sure I would have experienced a great outpouring of his old man vitriole over that question.

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

He cannot produce scripture for the gap.

Yeah, it's funny how they scramble to squeeze in a thousand years, yet claim others are reading too much into the Bible

Whatever happened to their literalism?

Good case in point..the separation of all mankind into those who receive eternal life, and those who receive eternal punishment, when Jesus returns in Matthew 25.

There isn't some third category of individuals who go into a "Millennium" for a thousand years as sinful human beings.

And, that's the case will all of the gospels and epistles. It's only when you get into Revelation 20 that this interpretation is claimed.

It's similar to the rapture of the church. When MacArthur was asked where the rapture was in the book of Revelation, he said that it was "between the lines". If an amillennial person said that, he would be accused of some hermeneutical error, yet dispensationalists scotch-tape their theology together in this manner.

Double standards

 

[cv5]

If he's a dispensationalist, he's wrong. And, he is a dispensationalist. He was a Calvary Chapel pastor. I used to attend a Calvary Chapel, and both him and Dave Hunt were well liked by them.

I just glanced at Wikipedia at Chuck Missler's information. Apparently he publicly admitted that he plagiarized other mens' works for his own books on two separate occasions.

Dave Hunt was another strange character. He wasn't a cultist, but his mentality was somewhat cultic. He tend to be focused on attacking anyone except his particular Plymouth Brethren group. I saw him in a debate with Muslims, where he spent a good share of the first part of the debate claiming he was not like "other Christians", in a derisive manner.

Well, I"m glad he separates himself from me, because I don't believe in his theology in many regards

One funny thing about Hunt is that he hated Reformed theology, yet his full name includes the name of one of the greatest Reformed preachers of all time: David Charles Haddon Hunt.

Charles Haddon Spurgeon was definitely in the top twenty Reformed teachers.

I would love to have asked Dave Hunt about his derision for Reformed people, given the fact that he was named after one of the greatest teachers

I'm sure I would have experienced a great outpouring of his old man vitriole over that question.

So was Spurgeon an amillenialist?

 

[cv5]

Yeah, it's funny how they scramble to squeeze in a thousand years, yet claim others are reading too much into the Bible

Whatever happened to their literalism?

Good case in point..the separation of all mankind into those who receive eternal life, and those who receive eternal punishment, when Jesus returns in Matthew 25.

There isn't some third category of individuals who go into a "Millennium" for a thousand years as sinful human beings.

And, that's the case will all of the gospels and epistles. It's only when you get into Revelation 20 that this interpretation is claimed.

It's similar to the rapture of the church. When MacArthur was asked where the rapture was in the book of Revelation, he said that it was "between the lines". If an amillennial person said that, he would be accused of some hermeneutical error, yet dispensationalists scotch-tape their theology together in this manner.

Double standards

The rapture in Revelation is right here buddy......in black and white. Why don't you read the Bible Instead of railing against those who do?

Rev 3:10
Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.

 

[Dave-L]

The rapture in Revelation is right here buddy......in black and white. Why don't you read the Bible Instead of railing against those who do?

Rev 3:10
Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.

It does not mention a Rapture. You are adding to God's words = really dangerous = strange fire. He keeps me spiritually from all evil in my midst.

 

[garee]

Lets do this right using the full sessions.

I would think do it right by rightly dividing the parables according to the signified understanding. And remember that Christ said without parables that use the signified tongue of God as prophecy Christ spoke not .Leaving us tools to rightly divide we should apply them .

Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and "signified" it by his angel unto his servant John:

The golden introduction to the whole book . Don't study without it and in doing so take away the hidden manna .

Now we can apply it to the parable chapter 20 . . one verse at a time and search for the unseen understanding hid from the literalist that must walk by sight serving that self edifying master. . .

Revelation 20 King James Version (KJV) And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

I can count 5 metaphors in the parable using the first verse .How many can you count?

I say in the vision given to the fleshly mind of John was the witness the signified tongue a angel a unseen messenger of God to bring the thoughts of the father having the gospel as the key the power of life and death which bound the father of lies not seen. Binding him from that kind of deception all the nations .prevented from ever rising (bottomless pit..)

Using the temporal things seen key chains pit hands in that parable what do you think the signified understanding of that portion of the gospel? Some simply literalize and make the signified without effect.

Boils down to which teaching master will mankind serve the things of men seen the temporal or those of God not seen the eternal

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.