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JaumeJ

JaumeJ

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If we use the Hebrew word in the Psalm we we see the word elohim, small e, which may be translated as "mighty ones." Small letter, ge, also makes sense but does not fully translate the word el or the plural elohim.

On the Cross our Lord spoke "Eli, Eli, lama sachtani." My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me."
 
Nehemiah6

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JaumeJ said:
On the Cross our Lord spoke "Eli, Eli, lama sachtani." My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me."
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That's right. This was said in Aramaic, not Hebrew. But the word "sachtani" should be "sabachthani" (Mt 27:46). In the Hebrew Psalm 22:1 it is slightly different (see Bible Hub): Eli, Eli, lamah azabtani. But the meaning is identical.
 
JaumeJ

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I haave read the Word in Biblical Hebrew, including The minor prophet in Aramaic, and the first half of Daniel.
I know that Eli is Hebrew for my God, and lama is Hebrew for why. The ending of the phrase is out of my recollection.
The "i" on El makes it first person possessive. Just as "hanu" as the suffix of El produces the first person plural possessive, again, in Hebrew.

My constant thinking on this is, why would our Lord, Who came to speak to the remnant of Israel, speak to them in Aramaic, while teaching by even the Pharisees and the Temple priests would most likely teach in Hebrew?

This confusion may be taught by intellectuals, but common sense from above tells otherwise.
 
Obedience

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Nehemiah6 said:
No. That is NOT what the Bible says. Here is what is said in Psalm 82,6,7: I have said, Ye are gods [small "g]; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

Who is tis addressed to? UNJUST AND UNRIGHEOUS JUDGES IN ISRAEL: God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. (Ps 82:1,2)

"The mighty" and "the gods" is from the Hebrew word "elohim" (plural). This word not only can apply to the one true God, but it can also be applied to the mighty ones among men. In Israel the judges had a lot of power. "but they shall die like men". But the translators were careful not to call them "God" (as you have done).

The KJV translates Strong's H430 in the following manner: God (2,346x), god (244x), judge (5x), GOD (1x), goddess (2x), great (2x), mighty (2x), angels (1x), exceeding (1x), God-ward (with H4136) (1x), godly (1x). [ Note: so this is based upon the context]
  1. (plural)
    1. rulers, judges
    2. divine ones
    3. angels
    4. gods
  2. (plural intensive - singular meaning)
    1. god, goddess
    2. godlike one
    3. works or special possessions of God
    4. the (true) God
    5. God
NOTE: Your posts reveal a lot of spiritual confusion. So either you do not really know the truth or you are here to sow spiritual confusion. Time will tell.
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Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Psalms 95:3
For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all gods.

Psalms 97:7
Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.

The word of God is the truth of life.

Replace word "God and gods" with Word "Life".

For the LORD is a great life,and a great King above all lives.

I have said, Ye are lives ; and all of you are children of the most High life. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

I'm not confused.
Every word of the Bible says all about the life.

Time will tell.

God created man in the image of God.
Life created man in The image of life.
Every word God tells us is describing himself, because God is life.
 
Obedience

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Learn and teach that Jesus is God, doesn't help you find out what is the life.

Jesus is The only one example that God has given us to learn from, from son of man to son of God, then the image of God.

Don't get me wrong here.

O:Why Jesus is God?
S:He is God.
A:Why Jesus is sinless.
S:He is God.

Doesn't this sound ridiculous? God given us an example of The Almighty God to learn from? Almighty, Where am I going to learn this.

The Bible teaches me that Jesus is made prefect due to the obedience to the will of God or the word of God, then I could learn correctly from here.
 
notmyown

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Obedience said:
Rev 22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
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Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to reward each one as his work deserves. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they will have the right to the tree of life, and may enter the city by the gates. Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral persons, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.

“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you of these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.” (Rev 22:12-16)

the whole passage so you can see Who is speaking


“Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.'(Is 44:6)

Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. (Is 48:12)

who is speaking in Isaiah?
 
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