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There is no need to set some fixed time period of innocence or the age of accountability.. Leave it in Gods hands He has the perfect wisdom and knows all things..
In any case each individual is probably different. So some may be earlier and some maybe later and some people born with mental development problems may never reach the state of accountability..
In any case each individual is probably different. So some may be earlier and some maybe later and some people born with mental development problems may never reach the state of accountability..
It all boils down to:
See to not harm others and do right, having the knowledge of right and wrong given us each. yes, one day, each person does become aware of this truth, whatever age, God continues in God's mercy and Truth, thank you Father Psalm 100:4, 103:12. Having the right, presently, daily every second to choose to not harm others ever again, thanks to God's love for us through Son as risen given us each. After getting caught up in it first, not fully aware, yet should be by age 20 fully aware. To see to not even think out how to harm others and get away with it, anymore. I am accountable as have done this too in past now, wanting to get a Job or a wife, children, money to live presently and end up being a cheater, a person better than others, is not good for my Soul, anyone else? Not good for my Soul to harm anyone over any earth self gain, anyone else? seeing, presently, daily new to store my treasures with Father and Son in Heaven, safe and secure. In Eternity righteously from God whom simply loves us all and is proven to me, when I read the entire Bible, I see sincerely God loves us all y'all. So, choose God over harming others ever, then, see, you choose you will not willingly harm self, even over others harming you, that have or will harm you
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MM, I like what you have posted and has brought many things out in me hearing God's Love over it all, woe is me thank you, for the posts of accountability makes sense to me
See to not harm others and do right, having the knowledge of right and wrong given us each. yes, one day, each person does become aware of this truth, whatever age, God continues in God's mercy and Truth, thank you Father Psalm 100:4, 103:12. Having the right, presently, daily every second to choose to not harm others ever again, thanks to God's love for us through Son as risen given us each. After getting caught up in it first, not fully aware, yet should be by age 20 fully aware. To see to not even think out how to harm others and get away with it, anymore. I am accountable as have done this too in past now, wanting to get a Job or a wife, children, money to live presently and end up being a cheater, a person better than others, is not good for my Soul, anyone else? Not good for my Soul to harm anyone over any earth self gain, anyone else? seeing, presently, daily new to store my treasures with Father and Son in Heaven, safe and secure. In Eternity righteously from God whom simply loves us all and is proven to me, when I read the entire Bible, I see sincerely God loves us all y'all. So, choose God over harming others ever, then, see, you choose you will not willingly harm self, even over others harming you, that have or will harm you
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MM, I like what you have posted and has brought many things out in me hearing God's Love over it all, woe is me thank you, for the posts of accountability makes sense to me
the truth of God's love and see the sensibility to not harm others, even those that have or do wrong to others, you think? I think
I have done wrong as wrong has been done to me too. I refute either one now, sensibly and wisely remaining humble as a dove, Love from God to us all
Otherwise 1 John 2:1-2, makes no sense at all, and is useless to be done once for all
reading through to 1 John 2:27 from verse 1
God does just love us all y'all amazing, thank you Father and Son as Won giving us you to guide us in your Holy Spirit to love all over the few we all have done in first birth first. Now loving all, because you first loved us by Son, thank you
I have done wrong as wrong has been done to me too. I refute either one now, sensibly and wisely remaining humble as a dove, Love from God to us all
Otherwise 1 John 2:1-2, makes no sense at all, and is useless to be done once for all
reading through to 1 John 2:27 from verse 1
God does just love us all y'all amazing, thank you Father and Son as Won giving us you to guide us in your Holy Spirit to love all over the few we all have done in first birth first. Now loving all, because you first loved us by Son, thank you
thank you for seeing that, I did somehow not put that, glad you reading it through
I feel, think I have left earth, yet am here for the present moment, trusting God all in all, to impart life new life in Daddy's Spirit and Truth for each to personally believe between God and them too to see this Love given us to still keep free choice and have chosen, stuck to it as if glued, willingly, thank you, God for this Amazing Grace given to us each to respond to in thanksgiving and praise, seeing by Son all sin taken away Psalm103:12 to be too busy praising God for this gift, there is no time to think of anything else as we, at least me, I did not think well, I see, take all thought captive presently, before beginning the growing up unto maturity as am yet still need more to learn, standing in trust to God in God's timing I will learn as needed as God sees fit, not me anymore thank you. therefore putting past behind me as fast as it came in, before I can ever blink and eye lid
Phil 3
I feel, think I have left earth, yet am here for the present moment, trusting God all in all, to impart life new life in Daddy's Spirit and Truth for each to personally believe between God and them too to see this Love given us to still keep free choice and have chosen, stuck to it as if glued, willingly, thank you, God for this Amazing Grace given to us each to respond to in thanksgiving and praise, seeing by Son all sin taken away Psalm103:12 to be too busy praising God for this gift, there is no time to think of anything else as we, at least me, I did not think well, I see, take all thought captive presently, before beginning the growing up unto maturity as am yet still need more to learn, standing in trust to God in God's timing I will learn as needed as God sees fit, not me anymore thank you. therefore putting past behind me as fast as it came in, before I can ever blink and eye lid
Phil 3
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I think we make a major mistake when we claim to know what "Hell" will be for the Lost. The Bible plainly says that some will receive many stripes and some will receive few stripes. This is not Dante's Inferno.
The Hell we read about in the Bible is merely the place of the Dead where they go awaiting final sentencing. This place where the Dead exist will actually be thrown into the Lake and Fire, which is essentially a place of destruction.
Those thrown into the Lake of Fire forever are simply those who no longer exist on the New Earth nor even in the place of the Dead. They go into a place called "Outer Darkness," far removed from the close personal presence of the Lord among His People.
I think it is evil to think of God as an evil Sadist who burns people alive for all eternity. But they will be removed forever from his close personal presence. Some may live ini God's Kingdom with limited access to God, whereas the Lost will be far removed with no substantial access to God.
2 Sam 14.23 Then Joab went to Geshur and brought Absalom back to Jerusalem. 24 But the king said, “He must go to his own house; he must not see my face.” So Absalom went to his own house and did not see the face of the king.
1 Kings 2. 36 Then the king sent for Shimei and said to him, “Build yourself a house in Jerusalem and live there, but do not go anywhere else. 37 The day you leave and cross the Kidron Valley, you can be sure you will die; your blood will be on your own head.”
The Hell we read about in the Bible is merely the place of the Dead where they go awaiting final sentencing. This place where the Dead exist will actually be thrown into the Lake and Fire, which is essentially a place of destruction.
Those thrown into the Lake of Fire forever are simply those who no longer exist on the New Earth nor even in the place of the Dead. They go into a place called "Outer Darkness," far removed from the close personal presence of the Lord among His People.
I think it is evil to think of God as an evil Sadist who burns people alive for all eternity. But they will be removed forever from his close personal presence. Some may live ini God's Kingdom with limited access to God, whereas the Lost will be far removed with no substantial access to God.
2 Sam 14.23 Then Joab went to Geshur and brought Absalom back to Jerusalem. 24 But the king said, “He must go to his own house; he must not see my face.” So Absalom went to his own house and did not see the face of the king.
1 Kings 2. 36 Then the king sent for Shimei and said to him, “Build yourself a house in Jerusalem and live there, but do not go anywhere else. 37 The day you leave and cross the Kidron Valley, you can be sure you will die; your blood will be on your own head.”
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No matter, however it all works out Father God of in risen Son remains the only one good, In my honest opinion
Matthew 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Matthew 9:2
And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
(understanding this, we are in the new Covenant Hebrews 7:11-12) of God's true Love for us all, wow, woe is me anyone else?)
Matthew 12:29
Or else how can one enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
(Done in Son) for us to choose to believe God or not and be new in love and mercy, thanks to Father in risen Son done for us all to stand in)
(which today is done in risen Son Evil lost) Choose to believe this or not and then learn new from God Father in the Holy Spirit of God given you to see new, thank you)
Matthew 12:34
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
(Ask for the new heart Ezekiel 36:26)
(Only being one with Father and Son can one be as perfect, taking no credit to self) (Col, 1:21-23)
Matthew 12:35
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
(And yet only my Father is good)
Matthew 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
(Love all) in truth Hebrews 7:11-12
(Therefore, am I, you and others good, once believe God personally?) Ask Daddy, please personally)
Matthew 24:43
But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
(therefore be wise as a serpent, remain harmless as a dove, Matt 10:16-20)
Matthew 20:15
Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
(Yet, my Father and I are One, calling all to the fold in belief, I as well to be one with Father and have been made new as good, thanks to Father alone in risen Son. reconciled first (2 Cor 5:17-20, Then new life in belief to our Savior Jesus as risen, brings one, anyone out from being under Law, that got fulfilled for you too, to be new in Father and Son as Won (One) too, Thank you
Matthew 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Matthew 9:2
And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
(understanding this, we are in the new Covenant Hebrews 7:11-12) of God's true Love for us all, wow, woe is me anyone else?)
Matthew 12:29
Or else how can one enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
(Done in Son) for us to choose to believe God or not and be new in love and mercy, thanks to Father in risen Son done for us all to stand in)
(which today is done in risen Son Evil lost) Choose to believe this or not and then learn new from God Father in the Holy Spirit of God given you to see new, thank you)
Matthew 12:34
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
(Ask for the new heart Ezekiel 36:26)
(Only being one with Father and Son can one be as perfect, taking no credit to self) (Col, 1:21-23)
Matthew 12:35
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
(And yet only my Father is good)
Matthew 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
(Love all) in truth Hebrews 7:11-12
(Therefore, am I, you and others good, once believe God personally?) Ask Daddy, please personally)
Matthew 24:43
But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
(therefore be wise as a serpent, remain harmless as a dove, Matt 10:16-20)
Matthew 20:15
Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
(Yet, my Father and I are One, calling all to the fold in belief, I as well to be one with Father and have been made new as good, thanks to Father alone in risen Son. reconciled first (2 Cor 5:17-20, Then new life in belief to our Savior Jesus as risen, brings one, anyone out from being under Law, that got fulfilled for you too, to be new in Father and Son as Won (One) too, Thank you
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So what mistakes do you think are made in the following explanation or apologetic for hell?:
A person—even a theist—might think that God would not permit evil, suffering and hell to exist. People who are mystified by evil and repulsed by its punishment do not realize that the essential aspect of being a human rather than a robot or subhuman creature is moral free will (MFW), which is what enables a person to experience love and meaning. This is what makes humans different from animals, whose behavior is governed mainly by instinct. This is what it means to be created in God’s image (Gen. 1:26-27).
God could not force people to return His love without abrogating their humanity. If God were to zap ungodly souls, it would be tantamount to forcing conversions at gunpoint, which would not be free and genuine. If God were to prevent people from behaving hatefully, then He would need to prevent them from thinking evilly, which would make human souls programmed automatons. Even if God were to prove Himself to skeptics by means of a miracle, they might believe for awhile and then as their memories began to fade they would probably think that God had died and revert to their former doubt—necessitating an endless string of miracles (recapitulating the story of the Israelites on the way to Canaan after the exodus from Egypt).
Thus, for reasons we may understand only sufficiently rather than completely, God designed reality so that experiencing His presence is less than compelling, so that even Jesus (God the Son) on the cross cried out “My God [the Father], why have you forsaken [taken God the Spirit from] me?” (Matt. 27:46, Psa. 51:11) This phenomenon is sometimes called “distanciation”, because we experience God as distant from us and “unknown” (Acts 17:23), even though He is close or immanent, “for in Him we live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:28). Distanciation is not forsaken. God’s normative means of conversion is persuasion rather than coercion (Matt. 12:39, 24:24, 1Cor. 1:22-23). This is seen very clearly in Jesus’ lament over the obstinacy of Jerusalem (Matt. 23:37). Two unusual theophanies included when God appeared to Moses (in a burning bush per Exo. 3:2-6), whom God wanted to establish the Jewish lineage for the Messiah (OT), and to Saul/Paul (as the resurrected Jesus in Acts 9:3-6), whom God chose to establish the NT church of Christ. Miracles are rare (not normative).
MFW only exists when there is the possibility of choosing between two qualitatively opposite moral options that we call good and evil. These options are opposites because of essentially different consequences for choosing them. Choosing good results in blessing, life and heaven; and choosing evil results in cursing, death and hell (Deut. 30:19). This is why hell as well as heaven exists. It is the just consequence for choosing evil rather than God. The Spirit of God is good: love, peace and joy (Gal. 5:22-23). Therefore, whoever rejects the Lord is spiritually separated from Him (Isa. 59:2) and thereby chooses the evil or satanic spirit of hatred, strife and misery and reaps the just consequence called “hell” in the afterlife (Gal. 6:7-9, HB 9:27-28). These options were presented by Moses to the Israelites (Deut. 30:19), and Jesus referred to this fundamental choice in terms of a fish or egg versus a snake or scorpion (Luke 11:11-13). Life… or Curse? (Gen. 3:24, Rev. 22:1-2)
God created theoretical evil or the possibility of rejecting Him as an option that actualizes MFW/free human personality. As such it is necessary and even good (Gen. 1:31). Of course, it was wrong for Satan (1John 3:8) and humanity (Rom. 5:12) to make evil actual by choosing to Sin or reject Faith in God’s Lordship. Sin: ignoring God/God’s Word. God loves a cheerful giver (2Cor. 9:7), which means He desires people to cooperate with Him happily because of love and gratitude for His grace rather than to cower before Him because of fear of hell. Love must be evoked; it cannot be coerced. And again, when souls sin or do NOT choose to love God freely, it is perfectly just (loving and logical) for them to reap the appropriate consequence (Gal. 6:7-9) or hell.
Evil people punish/torture themselves by experiencing delayed karma, just as those who experience appropriate justice during this earthly existence also punish themselves or reap what they have sown and send themselves to jail. This view makes souls responsible for breaking the rules rather than blaming evil on the judges (or Judge) who enforce the rules. The purpose of earthly punishment is to promote repentance, but the reason for retribution in hell is to attain justice. It is difficult to imagine, but somehow even someone as evil as Hitler will receive perfect justice, perhaps experiencing the agony of the millions of deaths he caused in accordance with the principal of “eye for eye” (MT 5:38), after which their souls are destroyed forever (per John 17:12, Rom. 9:22, Gal. 6:8, Phil. 3:19, 2Thes. 1:9, 2Pet. 3:7 & Rev. 20:13-14).
A person—even a theist—might think that God would not permit evil, suffering and hell to exist. People who are mystified by evil and repulsed by its punishment do not realize that the essential aspect of being a human rather than a robot or subhuman creature is moral free will (MFW), which is what enables a person to experience love and meaning. This is what makes humans different from animals, whose behavior is governed mainly by instinct. This is what it means to be created in God’s image (Gen. 1:26-27).
God could not force people to return His love without abrogating their humanity. If God were to zap ungodly souls, it would be tantamount to forcing conversions at gunpoint, which would not be free and genuine. If God were to prevent people from behaving hatefully, then He would need to prevent them from thinking evilly, which would make human souls programmed automatons. Even if God were to prove Himself to skeptics by means of a miracle, they might believe for awhile and then as their memories began to fade they would probably think that God had died and revert to their former doubt—necessitating an endless string of miracles (recapitulating the story of the Israelites on the way to Canaan after the exodus from Egypt).
Thus, for reasons we may understand only sufficiently rather than completely, God designed reality so that experiencing His presence is less than compelling, so that even Jesus (God the Son) on the cross cried out “My God [the Father], why have you forsaken [taken God the Spirit from] me?” (Matt. 27:46, Psa. 51:11) This phenomenon is sometimes called “distanciation”, because we experience God as distant from us and “unknown” (Acts 17:23), even though He is close or immanent, “for in Him we live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:28). Distanciation is not forsaken. God’s normative means of conversion is persuasion rather than coercion (Matt. 12:39, 24:24, 1Cor. 1:22-23). This is seen very clearly in Jesus’ lament over the obstinacy of Jerusalem (Matt. 23:37). Two unusual theophanies included when God appeared to Moses (in a burning bush per Exo. 3:2-6), whom God wanted to establish the Jewish lineage for the Messiah (OT), and to Saul/Paul (as the resurrected Jesus in Acts 9:3-6), whom God chose to establish the NT church of Christ. Miracles are rare (not normative).
MFW only exists when there is the possibility of choosing between two qualitatively opposite moral options that we call good and evil. These options are opposites because of essentially different consequences for choosing them. Choosing good results in blessing, life and heaven; and choosing evil results in cursing, death and hell (Deut. 30:19). This is why hell as well as heaven exists. It is the just consequence for choosing evil rather than God. The Spirit of God is good: love, peace and joy (Gal. 5:22-23). Therefore, whoever rejects the Lord is spiritually separated from Him (Isa. 59:2) and thereby chooses the evil or satanic spirit of hatred, strife and misery and reaps the just consequence called “hell” in the afterlife (Gal. 6:7-9, HB 9:27-28). These options were presented by Moses to the Israelites (Deut. 30:19), and Jesus referred to this fundamental choice in terms of a fish or egg versus a snake or scorpion (Luke 11:11-13). Life… or Curse? (Gen. 3:24, Rev. 22:1-2)
God created theoretical evil or the possibility of rejecting Him as an option that actualizes MFW/free human personality. As such it is necessary and even good (Gen. 1:31). Of course, it was wrong for Satan (1John 3:8) and humanity (Rom. 5:12) to make evil actual by choosing to Sin or reject Faith in God’s Lordship. Sin: ignoring God/God’s Word. God loves a cheerful giver (2Cor. 9:7), which means He desires people to cooperate with Him happily because of love and gratitude for His grace rather than to cower before Him because of fear of hell. Love must be evoked; it cannot be coerced. And again, when souls sin or do NOT choose to love God freely, it is perfectly just (loving and logical) for them to reap the appropriate consequence (Gal. 6:7-9) or hell.
Evil people punish/torture themselves by experiencing delayed karma, just as those who experience appropriate justice during this earthly existence also punish themselves or reap what they have sown and send themselves to jail. This view makes souls responsible for breaking the rules rather than blaming evil on the judges (or Judge) who enforce the rules. The purpose of earthly punishment is to promote repentance, but the reason for retribution in hell is to attain justice. It is difficult to imagine, but somehow even someone as evil as Hitler will receive perfect justice, perhaps experiencing the agony of the millions of deaths he caused in accordance with the principal of “eye for eye” (MT 5:38), after which their souls are destroyed forever (per John 17:12, Rom. 9:22, Gal. 6:8, Phil. 3:19, 2Thes. 1:9, 2Pet. 3:7 & Rev. 20:13-14).
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Before I read on, let me just stop you here because it seems we're getting off on the wrong foot. I never said "Hell" doesn't exist. I fully agree that Eternal Punishment exists. It just isn't really called "Hell," biblically, because Hades is thrown into the Lake of Fire.
If anything, it eternally exists in a place of removal from the New Earth. But the wicked dead are resurrected and can only exist in the "2nd Death"--not Hell.
At least this is how I understand it. Do you have any thoughts on that?
If anything, it eternally exists in a place of removal from the New Earth. But the wicked dead are resurrected and can only exist in the "2nd Death"--not Hell.
At least this is how I understand it. Do you have any thoughts on that?
God chooses, I am well in my Soul, anyone else? It is not about good and bad anymore, since Son fulfilled the Law for us all first (John 1:29, John 19:30). Done in Son once for us all to turn to Father of risen Son, to be made new as Won, Col 1:1-23, then see Col 2 as well, freed! and Romans 14, where Paul states, I know and am convinced all things are now clean of it self, thanks to the done work of Son at the cross.
Even as Peter saw in a dream, when God told Peter to kill and eat, Peter refused three times and God told Peter to not call anything unclean that God has cleansed
Therefore is all cleansed now, by Son at that cross or not, 2 Cor 5:17-20?
If is, then one, anyone that believes God in Son are saved by God to see it and be new, in trust to God no matter what they do or might do, after belief to Son is risen where new life is then the gift given. these, will learn new and let go of stupid stuff like being under Law that brings out sin in flesh and blood, Romans 7, reveals this to me anyone else?
What????????????????????????? I must do to get, right? Really, how you doing, in trying to not do? Are you getting better in understanding and leaving sin or you being ensued with more pride over thinking you got it or are getting it, you being a person better than others, (Luke 18:9-14), not seeing what true love does, and did for us by God's Son's willingly going to that cross, that he had no sin ever in his life, the only one in flesh to never sin, the second Adam, a life-giving spirit?
Even as Peter saw in a dream, when God told Peter to kill and eat, Peter refused three times and God told Peter to not call anything unclean that God has cleansed
Therefore is all cleansed now, by Son at that cross or not, 2 Cor 5:17-20?
If is, then one, anyone that believes God in Son are saved by God to see it and be new, in trust to God no matter what they do or might do, after belief to Son is risen where new life is then the gift given. these, will learn new and let go of stupid stuff like being under Law that brings out sin in flesh and blood, Romans 7, reveals this to me anyone else?
What????????????????????????? I must do to get, right? Really, how you doing, in trying to not do? Are you getting better in understanding and leaving sin or you being ensued with more pride over thinking you got it or are getting it, you being a person better than others, (Luke 18:9-14), not seeing what true love does, and did for us by God's Son's willingly going to that cross, that he had no sin ever in his life, the only one in flesh to never sin, the second Adam, a life-giving spirit?
I think, hearing what you stated above is: the great white throne judgment day, Up for judgement to live or die. What did you choose?
And those that did things, get judged by God, these do not escape the second death as many have and will, being of the faith God Father given them by God. As long as there good is better than that of the Pharisees that got God's Son killed to begin with (Matthew 5:20.)
What I am saying is: God did not come for those that chose to do right, having the knowledge to do right over wrong, and chose to do right, and did right, seeing to not harm others and accuse or excuse even themselves or anyone else, just love all as are loved first by God. God came for the lost, however they got lost in religion. That is what I see, a Just God in all things, to me anyways. To say unless you believe in God as laid out by religion, whatever religion here on earth (Be aware Hebrews 8:1-4, the only true Church Ecclesia), earth religion, you lost unless: tells me those doing that are lost as God continues to stand in love and mercy to us all, you and me too, even doing wrongs still. God, continues, hoping us to see to let go of self work or anyone else's works that is leading them to death and not seeing it as of yet, Love all, not a few anymore, thank you.
God just loves us all, otherwise God would not have ever sent Son to go to that cross in the first place you think? Your free choice to decide
I have decided in thanksgiving and praise, seeing all sin as gone as far as the east is from the west, anyone else? Ps 103:12 seeing, believing, then asking for the new heart describe in Ezekiel 36:26 where the new born again life begins as in Ezekiel 1:13, seeing verses 6, 7
Wow! accepted, forgiven and sealed to see it, so please do not quit, you will eventually see it too and be incredibly thankful too
And those that did things, get judged by God, these do not escape the second death as many have and will, being of the faith God Father given them by God. As long as there good is better than that of the Pharisees that got God's Son killed to begin with (Matthew 5:20.)
What I am saying is: God did not come for those that chose to do right, having the knowledge to do right over wrong, and chose to do right, and did right, seeing to not harm others and accuse or excuse even themselves or anyone else, just love all as are loved first by God. God came for the lost, however they got lost in religion. That is what I see, a Just God in all things, to me anyways. To say unless you believe in God as laid out by religion, whatever religion here on earth (Be aware Hebrews 8:1-4, the only true Church Ecclesia), earth religion, you lost unless: tells me those doing that are lost as God continues to stand in love and mercy to us all, you and me too, even doing wrongs still. God, continues, hoping us to see to let go of self work or anyone else's works that is leading them to death and not seeing it as of yet, Love all, not a few anymore, thank you.
God just loves us all, otherwise God would not have ever sent Son to go to that cross in the first place you think? Your free choice to decide
I have decided in thanksgiving and praise, seeing all sin as gone as far as the east is from the west, anyone else? Ps 103:12 seeing, believing, then asking for the new heart describe in Ezekiel 36:26 where the new born again life begins as in Ezekiel 1:13, seeing verses 6, 7
Wow! accepted, forgiven and sealed to see it, so please do not quit, you will eventually see it too and be incredibly thankful too
Although Christ atoned for the sins of humanity, a sinner must genuinely repent in order for Christ's righteousness to be credited, and
Paul listed some sins he implied genuine Christians would not typically commit (in 1Cor. 6:9-10), saying: “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
Apparently, although a new Christian might commit such sins occasionally, it is inconceivable (because antithetical to NT teaching and the fruit of the HS) that a Christian would commit them so typically that the person could be classified as an adulterer or murdered, for example.
Paul listed some sins he implied genuine Christians would not typically commit (in 1Cor. 6:9-10), saying: “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
Apparently, although a new Christian might commit such sins occasionally, it is inconceivable (because antithetical to NT teaching and the fruit of the HS) that a Christian would commit them so typically that the person could be classified as an adulterer or murdered, for example.
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