Adam and Eve first people on earth?

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GaryA

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Why is it so hard to believe that God created the races on the 6th day and He created Adam sometime after the 7th day and Eve further down the line than that. That is what His word says happened; Right?
No - it does not say that. And, that is why it is "so hard to believe"...
 
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If you want to believe that all people came from Adam and Eve you have to believe in a form of evolution. There is no way that 2 people of the same race and have a baby of a third race. Just cannot happen. That is as realistic as a man being a berthing person.
That's called VARIATION, not evolution! God made all creatures, and each was according to its KIND. That means species. One species could have numerous subspecies and they could interbreed, but it's a myth that different subspecies share the same ancestor. A chihuahua, German Sheperd, wolf and even fox could share a same canine ancestor, but a dog and a cat don't share the same ancestor.
 

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I use the KJV Companion Bible
Genesis 1



24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 2

1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there wasnot a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



Please take the time to slowly read all of this but really pay close attention to the bold print. You will see day 6 creation God created he him male and female. Right there tells you that could not be Adam and Eve. God took part of Adam to make Eve.

I am going to stop right here I hope this help clear things up

KenA
 

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Please take the time to slowly read all of this but really pay close attention to the bold print.
I believe that you should take a bit more time to read it very carefully.

What does Genesis 2:4 say again?
 

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What do you find interesting about these verses in Genesis?

2:4
5:1
6:9
10:1
11:10
11:27
25:12
25:19
36:1
36:9
37:2
 

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That's called VARIATION, not evolution! God made all creatures, and each was according to its KIND. That means species. One species could have numerous subspecies and they could interbreed, but it's a myth that different subspecies share the same ancestor. A chihuahua, German Sheperd, wolf and even fox could share a same canine ancestor, but a dog and a cat don't share the same ancestor.
I am really trying to stay away from race but here goes I am white, if I marry a white woman and have kids they will be white. If for 50 generations that goes on we ill have 50 generations of white children. Why did God chose Noah.
Genesis 6:8&9
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
9These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. 10And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
 

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What do you find interesting about these verses in Genesis?

2:4
5:1
6:9
10:1
11:10
11:27
25:12
25:19
36:1
36:9
37:2
Are you really wanting me to look at each of these or did you just pull a bunch of verses? Because 2:4 does tie into this.
 

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No - it does not say that. And, that is why it is "so hard to believe"...
Right from Gods word Genesis 2:5
And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
New International Version
Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground,

New Living Translation
neither wild plants nor grains were growing on the earth. For the LORD God had not yet sent rain to water the earth, and there were no people to cultivate the soil.

English Standard Version
When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground,

Berean Study Bible
Now no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth, nor had any plant of the field sprouted; for the LORD God had not yet sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.

King James Bible
And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

New King James Version
before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground;

New American Standard Bible
Now no shrub of the field was yet on the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.

NASB 1995
Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.
8 different translations and they all say That there was no man to till, take care of . . . the ground. Why was there no man ? GOD HAD NOT FORMED HIM YET!
 

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God made the plants before Adam during the creation week.
 

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No - it does not say that. And, that is why it is "so hard to believe"...
Genesis 1:27
New International Version
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

New Living Translation
So God created human beings in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

English Standard Version
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

Berean Study Bible
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

King James Bible
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

New King James Version
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

New American Standard Bible
So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

NASB 1995
God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

NASB 1977
And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Amplified Bible
So God created man in His own image, in the image and likeness of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Here we 10 different verses on the 6th day God created man in His own likeness He created him; male and female He created them.
If this was Adam and Eve God has contradicted Himself. How did He make Eve, shell we go get another 10 verses that say He crated Her from Adams flesh and bone.
 

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No - it does not say that. And, that is why it is "so hard to believe"...
Genesis 2:22
New International Version
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

New Living Translation
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib, and he brought her to the man.

English Standard Version
And the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man.

Berean Study Bible
And from the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man, He made a woman and brought her to him.

King James Bible
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

New King James Version
Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.

New American Standard Bible
And the LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.

NASB 1995
The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.

NASB 1977
And the LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.

Amplified Bible
And the rib which the LORD God had taken from the man He made (fashioned, formed) into a woman, and He brought her and presented her to the man.

Christian Standard Bible
Then the LORD God made the rib he had taken from the man into a woman and brought her to the man.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Then the LORD God made the rib He had taken from the man into a woman and brought her to the man.
Genesis 2:26 We are just a few days from Day 6 in creation when God made man and woman, male and female, He created THEM.
He created them at the same time. Adam He formed as a potter would a pot and planted a garden for him and put him in it alone.
Then some time later took a part of Adam He made (fashioned, formed) a woman and brought her to him.
Does that sound like what happened on the 6th day of creation.
 

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I believe that you should take a bit more time to read it very carefully.

What does Genesis 2:4 say again?
This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
History did not stop there, Gods work did not stop there. God said this is what has happened up to this point in history. Genesis 2:5 - Revelation 22:21 was still to come and is still to come.
 
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I am really trying to stay away from race but here goes I am white, if I marry a white woman and have kids they will be white. If for 50 generations that goes on we ill have 50 generations of white children. Why did God chose Noah.
Genesis 6:8&9
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
9These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. 10And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Oh really? How about you define "white"? This is a political term invented by the communists. If that means ancestry of western europeans, then that's a wide range of skin tone, some Italians and Greeks could be as dark as Indians and Arabs. And speaking of, people from Middle East and North Africa are also classified as "white", but by no means would you consider those muslims as "white", would you?
 

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Where Adam and Eve the first people God Created?​





The short answer is no. Before you call me crazy lets go to the bible and see what Gods word says.

Let's pick it up in the 6th day of creation.



Genesis 1.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.



Verse 26. God said “Let us make man in our image, after our image” That would in His image as well as the angles. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea “fisherman” over the fowl of the air, cattle, ranchers, herdsman, and every creeping thing on the earth hunters

Verse 27. God created both men and woman at the same time.

Verse 28. God blessed them and said unto them “plural, more than one”

Verse 29. God sets up some people to gather fruit, seeds and herbs,

Verse 30. All the animals shell eat off the land.

Verse 31. God looked at everything that He had made and He said it was good; very good.



Genesis 2.

1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.



The 7th day God rested from all His work. God blessed the 7th day



4These are the generations “family history” of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



Verse 4This is the time line for every thing that has been created up to this time.

Verse 5 Notice in this verse every plant of the field. There were no farm plants, no corn, no wheat . . . AND there was NO MAN: “ what about all the men and woman God just created on day 6 before He rested on day 7?” This is a different man to till the ground. To cultivate the ground, to farm the ground, to be the farmer. Different from the fishermen, hunters, gathers.

Verse 6. God brings a mist a dew, a watering of the ground so that everything can grow. With the mud that was created by this God does something with it and in verse 7 we will find out what that is.

Verse 7. And the LORD GOD formed man “The man Adam” The man that God would use to bring His people Israel into the world. Stop right here and go back to the end of day 6. What id God say about those men and woman “ They were good very good. God is not a raciest, God loves all His children. Remember the Song Jesus loves all the children of the world red and yellow, black and white they are precious in His sight.” The people that His son would be born into. He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. Did He give the people created on the 6th day a soul yes He did. He gave them a human soul a soul libel to die. Adam had the chance to live in the garden for ever, but different study for a different time.

I am not going to copy off the rest of chapter two we will just highlight it.

Verses 8-14 God creates the Garden of Eden for Adam.



Verses 15&16 God puts Adam into the garden to keep it. To be the gardener the farmer of the garden. God does tell Adam there is one tree the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Different time Different study is it really a tree.



Strong's Concordance

of the knowledge: Strong's Hebrew 1847: 1) knowledge 1a) knowledge, perception, skill 1b) discernment, understanding, wisdom



Verses 17-20 God brings the animals of the garden for Adam to name and see if any will make a good mate for him.



Verses 20-24. God takes a part of Adam and makes him a mate Woman Eve. How long has it been sense God created the men and women of the 6th day. Why were the women of the 6th day not brought to Adam for a wife? Just as Adam was to be the male line for His people God also knew that Eve would be the womb of his people.

Let me ask a question that I have asked before. Why did God make multiple men and women on day 6? We know where the Israelite came from Adam and Eve. That does not answer the question about all the races. This is why He created the men and women of the 6th day.

If you want to believe that all people came from Adam and Eve you have to believe in a form of evolution. There is no way that 2 people of the same race and have a baby of a third race. Just cannot happen. That is as realistic as a man being a berthing person.
There is a simple answer to your question. It is "genetic pooling". Every race was genetically included in Adam. It's nothing strange or unusual. Every dog breed can be traced back to one breed, or possibly two. The genes of a Great Dane and a Pug (short for plug ugly) were in the same original dog.

Incest was not a problem because there was so much genetic diversity initially. It became a problem when the nations were scattered and tribes were formed, starting with the sons of Noah.
 

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Where Adam and Eve the first people God Created?​





The short answer is no. Before you call me crazy lets go to the bible and see what Gods word says.

Let's pick it up in the 6th day of creation.



Genesis 1.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.



Verse 26. God said “Let us make man in our image, after our image” That would in His image as well as the angles. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea “fisherman” over the fowl of the air, cattle, ranchers, herdsman, and every creeping thing on the earth hunters

Verse 27. God created both men and woman at the same time.

Verse 28. God blessed them and said unto them “plural, more than one”

Verse 29. God sets up some people to gather fruit, seeds and herbs,

Verse 30. All the animals shell eat off the land.

Verse 31. God looked at everything that He had made and He said it was good; very good.



Genesis 2.

1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.



The 7th day God rested from all His work. God blessed the 7th day



4These are the generations “family history” of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



Verse 4This is the time line for every thing that has been created up to this time.

Verse 5 Notice in this verse every plant of the field. There were no farm plants, no corn, no wheat . . . AND there was NO MAN: “ what about all the men and woman God just created on day 6 before He rested on day 7?” This is a different man to till the ground. To cultivate the ground, to farm the ground, to be the farmer. Different from the fishermen, hunters, gathers.

Verse 6. God brings a mist a dew, a watering of the ground so that everything can grow. With the mud that was created by this God does something with it and in verse 7 we will find out what that is.

Verse 7. And the LORD GOD formed man “The man Adam” The man that God would use to bring His people Israel into the world. Stop right here and go back to the end of day 6. What id God say about those men and woman “ They were good very good. God is not a raciest, God loves all His children. Remember the Song Jesus loves all the children of the world red and yellow, black and white they are precious in His sight.” The people that His son would be born into. He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. Did He give the people created on the 6th day a soul yes He did. He gave them a human soul a soul libel to die. Adam had the chance to live in the garden for ever, but different study for a different time.

I am not going to copy off the rest of chapter two we will just highlight it.

Verses 8-14 God creates the Garden of Eden for Adam.



Verses 15&16 God puts Adam into the garden to keep it. To be the gardener the farmer of the garden. God does tell Adam there is one tree the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Different time Different study is it really a tree.



Strong's Concordance

of the knowledge: Strong's Hebrew 1847: 1) knowledge 1a) knowledge, perception, skill 1b) discernment, understanding, wisdom



Verses 17-20 God brings the animals of the garden for Adam to name and see if any will make a good mate for him.



Verses 20-24. God takes a part of Adam and makes him a mate Woman Eve. How long has it been sense God created the men and women of the 6th day. Why were the women of the 6th day not brought to Adam for a wife? Just as Adam was to be the male line for His people God also knew that Eve would be the womb of his people.

Let me ask a question that I have asked before. Why did God make multiple men and women on day 6? We know where the Israelite came from Adam and Eve. That does not answer the question about all the races. This is why He created the men and women of the 6th day.

If you want to believe that all people came from Adam and Eve you have to believe in a form of evolution. There is no way that 2 people of the same race and have a baby of a third race. Just cannot happen. That is as realistic as a man being a berthing person.
I think some folks overlook so much… I think it is naivety. Whom was Cain afraid of when he was marked? Evolution.. or man observing GOD’s blue print and adding their theories to exalt themselves amongst men? The Bible lightly tells us about the beginning.. The Bible is True. It is our understanding of what is written that does error.. for we see that GOD made man in His image whilst telling a second party.. In our Image.. after our likeness. Clearly stating the fact. My inquisitive nature once did contemplate such. Then throughout the Bible it references a story.. But my friends need us not overly concern for our Faith, Trust and Love is not in knowledge of the beginnings.. but in Hope, Love and Faith in the End. When our Lord and Saviour will give us our Royal pardon. The tree of Life is more important than the Tree of knowledge… one kills.. the other saves us. If a man wishes to believe Adam and Eve were the first creation and everyone came from their lineage.. no harm is done. For Salvation is in the New Covenant. The flood wiped much out.. for strange beings did walk the earth. Much immorality indeed. Yet we have Salvation through our Lord. All that came to pass is part of the story of life. Be found written in the Book of life, be not consumed with needing the exact beginning for we are set here in this age.