My friend, can we PLEASE just follow the text? You may not realize but you are putting your own twist on John. Here is how John put it.
Seals 1-5 church age, the very age we are living. (Re. 6)
Seal 6 is FUTURE and is the START of God's wrath (Rev. 6)
Seal 7 starts the 70th week of Daniel using the first trumpet (Rev. 8)
Trumpet 7 marks the midpoint (Rev 11)
Chapters 11, 12, and 13 are midpoint chapters, each including the start of a countdown to the end (7th vial)
No, I actually understand the book of Revelation, but you however are thrown off by ONE VERSE, which tells you no such thing that the Seals have been being opened for nigh 2000 years, but you run with it anyway, thereby via all your errors all you can say is that everyone else is wrong, when its you who are down the Rabbit Hole.
Rev. 5:3 And
no man in heaven,(But you REFUSE TO CKOELDGE THE 2 FOLLWING NOTATIONS) nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.5 And one of the elders saith unto me,
Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
So, via your thinking Jesus is a NOWHERE MAN, because he also was not IN THE EARTH, nor was he UNDER THE EARTH but you tune all that out and only see NO MAN IN HEAVEN !! Then you run from this fact that destroys your whole thesis on the Seals being opened 2000 years ago.
This is why you can never teach me anything sir, I would never listen to anyone's opinion on anything if when shown they are in error they just pretend its not factual and carry on with said errors, why would I ever listen to any point you have after you refuse to acknowledge the facts? And instead carry on with said falsehoods?
The Church Age is Rev. 2 and 3, this s not even debatable, sorry you wasted so much of your life believing in a falsehood brother, but that is on you sir, no one else. We get the 7 (7 means COMPLETENESS) Churches in Revelation 2 and 3. Then in Rev. 4:1 we get the Pre Trb Rapture, sadly about the only thing you get right is the Pre Trib Rapture, but you really don't even get it right via where that happens because you think the Seals are the Church Age. All mixed up and confused by ONE OR TWO VERSES sadly, in Rev. ch. 5. The NOWHERE MAN verse. When I pointed out on WORTHY (which I left because of the mods and people reporting posts like children when they got their feelings hurt, SMH) that Jesus would have to be a NOWHERE MAN according to your understandings, you just avoided that fact, which showed me personally your understandings are the must important thing unto you, it obvious you are in error, but your whole understandings would be shattered, so you just carried on. When I know I have proven something unto someone, and there can be no doubt, and they just carry on anyway, I totally quit debating anything with them. That's why I stopped replying to you on that site.
Rev. 4 and 5 are CLEARLY the Raptured Church in Heaven, that is not debatable either. In Rev. 4:4 they have three things Jesus Promised to those who OVERCAME in Rev. 2:10, Rev. 3:5 and 3:21. Thrones, Crowns and Robes.
In Rev. 6 we see the Seals are NOT JUDGMENTS, but Prophesies by Jesus on what is about to befall mankind when the Judgments finally do fall in Rev. ch. 8, just after Jesus opens the 7th Seal, which is why its in Rev. ch. 8. The Seals are Jesus simply saying that an Anti-Christ Conqueror on a White Horse (Seal #1) will go forth and take away the Peace (bring wars = Seal #2). which leads to Famine (Seal #3) and he will cause many deaths, via sickness (Seal #4) and during his 42 month reign he will Martyr (Seal #5) many who come unto Christ Jesus during the 70th week tribulation period. THEN.............The Six Seal of God's Wrath comes, but it is LIKEWISE a Prophesy also !! It comes to pass via the Rev. 8 Trumpet Judgments, and that can also be proven. So, Joel 2:31 and the 6th Seal are both IDENTICAL Prophesies !! But they can only happen when the 7th Seal is opened.
Rev. 7 is the 144,000 (ALL Israel ho repents OR 3-5 million Jews who flee Judea) and this isn't speculation, this is me unraveling the CODED Book of Revelation which you can't seem to understand in like manner. Those seen in Rev. 7:9-17 are the Church Age Saints who came out of the 2000 year GREAT TRIBUATION PERIOD, as on 2000>7.
Rev. 8 is the 7th Seal being opened because Gods Wrath is about to hit via the Asteroid (Apophis). Then the fire cones in first(Trump #1), as Scientists say happens, the Asteroid then hits in the ocean via Trump #2, and the WORMWOOD FALLOUT from whatever it is in the Asteroid that Poisons the Fresh Waters, be it Sulfur dioxide fallout or some unknown metal, or maybe it explodes like unto a Nuclear reaction, who knows, God can send what He so desires, all I know is this same Asteroid comes in HOT and God says it poisons the Fresh Waters via Trump #3.
Trump number 4 MATCHES the Joel 2:31 AND Seal #6 Prophesies doesn't it? Of course it does, the Sun, Moon and Stars are diminished by 1/3 here, and that is what both of those "PROPHESIES" say will happen !!
Trumpet #7 is 75 days from the end, and it happens in Rev. 16:19, w can see that in the Parenthetical Citation Chapters of Rev. 11 where you say "IT HAPPENS" but does the 2nd Trump happen in Rev. 11 also? Or in Rev. 9 where we see THAT JUDGMENT? In Rev. 11 we se the STORY of the Two-witnesses ministry over 1260 days, which actually misses the 7th Trump, if you would READ VERY CARFULLY, because in Rev. 11 the Two-witnesses DIE then we are told the 3rd Woe comes quickly now go read Rev. 8:13, the THREE Woes to come are the last THREE Trumps. Thus, just like the 2nd Woe in Rev. 11 is not the actual REAL TIME Judgment as seen in Rev. 9, the Rev. 11 3rd Woe/7th Trump is also not a REAL TIME Judgment, that is seen in Rev. 16, all of the Vials ae the 3rd Woe, which is the 7th Trump.
Chapter 12 and 13 are really the Midway point, but Rev. 11 starts BEFORE those two chapters because the Beast only rules for 1260 days, so that has to be the middle, BUT.........The Two-witnesses who also have to Witnesses for 1260 days, DIE at the 2nd Woe, so they can't start in the middle of the week, this is SIMPLE MATH !! Why is this so hard to understand? Its SIMPLE MATH !! Thus the Two-witnesses are the 1335 BLESSING. They therefore must start their ministry 75 days BEFORE the 1260.
I don need to read you posts, I know what you think already, and I also know you will never admit you are in error, so its kind of a waste of my time tbh.
