Women cannot have authority in the congregation or over their husbands.
1 Corinthians 14: 34-35
1 Timothy 2: 11-12
1 Corinthians 14: 34-35
1 Timothy 2: 11-12
Women cannot have authority in the congregation.
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There have been countless threads on this topic. There are many instances in the bible where God has place women in positions of authority. There has been endless debate and discussion on this for years and I have yet to see any member that was persuaded to change their perspective one way or another.
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Humm profile says not married... How bout lets do this. How bout the men worry about what the Bible commands them to do and let women do the same? When you have that perfected you can come preach to us on how we should be living. Alrighty then? Good!
You are correct, but the way you put it just stirs a hornet's nest. Why not explain to us why in matters of GRACE, we are all equal, but in matters of GOVERNMENT there is an order.
Judging by your pseudonym I can understand your sentiments. But wouldn't your suggestion take away the right to debate? I too have an Head over me and I too must submit. Jesus too (1st Cor.11:3).
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lenna
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lenna
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so true
and we also have yet to see these fact dissuade anyone who has their little heart set on proving women are inferior while thumping the Bible to do so
12 posts in and he's diving into the deep end. shark pool
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lenna
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uh huh
only the One you call YOUR head, isn't going to come down and tell you to shut up
how convenient
there is an ongoing thread on this topic. over and over and they are almost always started by men
as I said in the other thread, it takes a certain type of male personality who likes to seemingly take advantage of scripture to silence women while the scripture is actually in disagreement with them
He will eventually have to come up for air. The waters are murky in the pool that he dived into. Sharks.so true
and we also have yet to see these fact dissuade anyone who has their little heart set on proving women are inferior while thumping the Bible to do so
12 posts in and he's diving into the deep end. shark pool
You don't have to submit to Jesus as you have a choice in that matter. Even if you did submit He would not Lord it over you.
What is the point of this thread?
Married women have these things already worked out with their husbands, and if they're Christians, they read their Bibles, do their best to follow teachings in the Bible, and go to church. It's not like they're going to listen to a total stranger telling them what to do and what relationship to have.
Married women have these things already worked out with their husbands, and if they're Christians, they read their Bibles, do their best to follow teachings in the Bible, and go to church. It's not like they're going to listen to a total stranger telling them what to do and what relationship to have.
Ahhh, should've guessed. Men starting these are ALWAYS unmarried and trying to lord over OTHER men's wives. Because the Bible says to command wives of other men......... not!
Every time, man.
Please find a place in Scripture where it is recorded that God said this.........
and not the Apostle Paul...........
See, Paul had two distinct writing styles............ "Thus sayeth the Lord," which was commandments from God, and not to be argued or debated.............AND..........."I would rather that, it would be better that....." When he wrote in this style.....he was ONLY giving his best advice to the Church on how to behave so as to have the least amount of problems................
AS WELL............the Scriptures you posted..............ARE NEVER TAUGHT IN ANY CHURCH THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD OF.....they ONLY want to teach women can't be Pastors............hmm
You can run and hide all you want...........but God sees you and...........
Yeah, probably going to turn into a typical women bashing thread. I did noticed what you have mentioned in that these threads are usually started by men who are not married.
FYI to consider.........
Sometimes the Apostle Paul's advice was a wee bit off target, as with this example
1 Corinthians, Chapter 11:14) Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 15) But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
Well, I've seen some pictures of Lions, and I'm pretty sure that in NATURE the male has the long hair and the female the short hair. So...........hmm
Now, this next verse surely reveals that at least SOME of his teachings were ONLY FOR certain Curches/Congregations...............
16) But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
When people read the Epistles of the Apostle Paul is is NECESSARY to do so with FULL understanding, elsewise, folks are gonna have all sorts of stuff added to their teachings/their Churches/Denominations teachings that ARE NOT Biblical...............
Sometimes the Apostle Paul's advice was a wee bit off target, as with this example
1 Corinthians, Chapter 11:14) Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 15) But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
Well, I've seen some pictures of Lions, and I'm pretty sure that in NATURE the male has the long hair and the female the short hair. So...........hmm
Now, this next verse surely reveals that at least SOME of his teachings were ONLY FOR certain Curches/Congregations...............
16) But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
When people read the Epistles of the Apostle Paul is is NECESSARY to do so with FULL understanding, elsewise, folks are gonna have all sorts of stuff added to their teachings/their Churches/Denominations teachings that ARE NOT Biblical...............
The Apostle explains it for ALL who will read with understanding:
1 Corinthians, Chapter 7:
6) But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
7) For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8) I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
9) But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
10) And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
11) But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
12) But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1 Corinthians, Chapter 7:
6) But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
7) For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8) I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
9) But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
10) And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
11) But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
12) But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
Samson the Nazirite of God comes to mind. How were his locks a shame? God literally wanted him to have long locks.
So apostle Paul must've been making another point here, like you say there must be full understanding and not just go ballistic.
Based on my own personal marital experience I have found this to be true.