The ThreeFold Nature of Man

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Ah, Clarence Larkin, the dispensational chart guy. I thought his name sounded familiar
Not everything Larkin produced focused on dispensationalism — as you can see from the drawing I shared, some of his work simply illustrates biblical truth without tying directly to that framework.

Grace and Peace
 
Not everything Larkin produced focused on dispensationalism — as you can see from the drawing I shared, some of his work simply illustrates biblical truth without tying directly to that framework.

Grace and Peace

I think he was probably just an artist and got his ideas from others, so I wasn't finding fault with him.
 
How do these verse fit in the chart?
[Ecc 9:5 KJV] 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
[Job 14:21 KJV] 21 His sons come to honour, and he knoweth [it] not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth [it] not of them.
[Psa 6:5 KJV] 5 For in death [there is] no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
[Psa 88:10-11 KJV] 10 Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise [and] praise thee? Selah. 11 Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? [or] thy faithfulness in destruction?
[Job 7:9-10 KJV] 9 [As] the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no [more]. 10 He shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him any more.
 
I try to share things that edify the body of Christ, not tear it down — unlike some on this forum who seem more interested in sowing division than building up believers.


Jesus came to divide ---division will always be here until Jesus comes came to fix this broken world ----

Jesus didn't come to bring peace as many believe ---He came with the sword of the Word which divides -

Divideds what ---True Believers from People who only think they are true believers ----but are FALSE PROPHETS

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Every person needs to get a good knowledge of Scripture so they know the True believers posting from the False believers -----

Jesus also called a SPADE A SPADE ---He didn't fluff and appease people who were False Believers ---he called the Pharisees who through they were True Believers ---VIPERS ----HYPOCRITES ----and He said they were whitewashed on the OUTSIDE and DEFILED on the inside -----

So this comment you make here ----

unlike some on this forum who seem more interested in sowing division than building up believers.[/QUOTE]

Division was brought in By Jesus

I say ------How do you tell if they are True Believers posting -----you can tell from what they post -----
and many post here things that go against the Word ------so they are not true believers and should be called out Just as Jesus called out the Pharisees ----


To many people trying to Appease False Prophets --instead of calling them out -----

Many need to adhere to what Paul said when division was happening in His Church -----

Galatians 5:9
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A little leaven [a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers] leavens the whole batch [it perverts the concept of faith and misleads the church].

Paul Told his Church to get rid of False believers when they invaded his Church


I say ---Posting False Doctrine should be called out -----always ------here and everywhere ---

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Some good advice -------here folks ------take HEED ---

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My view is that body + spirit = soul/being/person

Your spirit and Soul are Seprate ----your first a spirit being ----you have a soul and these 2 are housed in a Physical body -----you are a Tri --Part being Like God is a tri-part being --

Hebrews 4:12

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For the word of God is living and active and full of power [making it operative, energizing, and effective].
It is sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating as far as the division of the soul and spirit
[the completeness of a person], and of both joints and marrow [the deepest parts of our nature], exposing and judging the very thoughts and intentions of the heart.


https://www.gotquestions.org/soul-spirit.html

The soul and the spirit are connected, but separable (Hebrews 4:12).

The soul is the essence of humanity’s being; it is who we are.

The spirit is the immaterial part of humanity that connects with God.

The word soul can refer to both the immaterial and material aspects of humanity. Humans have a spirit but are souls. In its most basic sense, the word soul means “life”; beyond this essential meaning,


From Google
What does the Bible say about mind, will, and emotions?

God's Word proves clearly and definitely that the soul is of three parts—the mind, the will, and the emotion. Proverbs 2:10 suggests that the soul needs knowledge. (Note also Proverbs 24:14;


1 Thessalonians 5:23

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23 And may the God of peace Himself sanctify you through and through [separate you from profane things, make you pure and wholly consecrated to God];
and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved sound and complete [and found] blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah).

I say -----Both the Spirit and Soul leave the body when one dies ----
 
Paul indicated in 1Cor. 15:35-54 that the soul will exist in a spiritual body.

We aren't clothed with a spiritual body until the resurrection, so until then the soul either doesn't exist or it's disembodied as described in Rev 6:9.
 
How do these verse fit in the chart?
[Ecc 9:5 KJV] 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
[Job 14:21 KJV] 21 His sons come to honour, and he knoweth [it] not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth [it] not of them.
[Psa 6:5 KJV] 5 For in death [there is] no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
[Psa 88:10-11 KJV] 10 Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise [and] praise thee? Selah. 11 Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? [or] thy faithfulness in destruction?
[Job 7:9-10 KJV] 9 [As] the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no [more]. 10 He shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him any more.
Soul sleep collapses under the full weight of Scripture.
Those verses sound convincing when taken in isolation, but once you read them in the context of the entire Bible—especially the New Testament revelation of life and immortality through Christ—the meaning becomes clear.

Those verses in Ecclesiastes, Psalms, and Job describe death from an earthly point of view — what man sees “under the sun.”
To the living, the dead appear silent and inactive, but the New Testament reveals the full truth about the soul after death.

“Absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.” — 2 Cor 5:8 KJV​
“Today shalt thou be with Me in paradise.” — Luke 23:43 KJV​
“Them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him.” — 1 Thess 4:14 KJV​

The “sleep” Scripture speaks of is the body resting, not the spirit ceasing.
Christ “brought life and immortality to light through the gospel” (2 Tim 1:10 KJV).
So there is no soul sleep — believers are alive with Christ, awaiting resurrection.

Grace and peace — always in His Word.
 
I think he was probably just an artist and got his ideas from others, so I wasn't finding fault with him.
Don't remember which book I got the above graphic 3 form nature of man but grabbed the Preface from the book titled below:
fair use: ----EXCERPT used for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY----
(Dispensational Truth: God's Plan and Purpose in the Ages) The preparation and publication of this book is a wonderful story of divine leading. The author by profession was a mechanical engineer and architect. When he entered the gospel ministry directly from business and without any previous theological training, at the age of thirty-four, he believed that he would have no further use for his skill as a draughtsman and sold all his professional books and appliances except his drawing instruments. His first charge was in a small town, where he remained fifteen years.

He was not premillennialist at the time of his ordination, but his study of the Scriptures, aided by some books that fell into his hands, led him to adopt that view. He began to make large colored wall charts on “prophetic truth” for use on the pulpit. This led to his being invited to teach, in connection with his pastoral work, in two Bible institutes. During this time, he published a number of prophetic charts that had a wide circulation. These led to the request that he publish a book, illustrated with charts, on prophetic truth.

But it was not until the spring of 1915 that the Lord laid it upon his heart to prepare a work on dispensational truth or God’s plan and purpose in the ages illustrated with charts. The designing and drawing of the charts and the writing of the descriptive matter took over three years. The book therefore has not been hastily gotten up. It is the outcome of over thirty years of careful and patient study of the prophetic Scriptures, and aims to give not the opinions of men, but the teaching of the Word of God. The writer’s purpose has been to prepare a standard work on dispensational truth. That such a work was greatly longed for is evidenced by the reception the book has had. In ten months, the first edition was exhausted and was widely circulated all over the world. The first edition was a feeler to see whether such a book would be in demand, and so was printed and circulated in the cheapest form. When the author awoke to the fact that the book was what the students of prophecy were looking for, he decided to revise and enlarge the book and put it out in a more substantial and usable form, but before he could do this, a second edition was called for and had to be printed in the old form.

This, the third edition, has been revised and enlarged by the addition of twice as many charts and twice as much descriptive matter as the previous editions, and the charts are now inserted in the descriptive matter where they belong. The book has also been printed in Atlas form, eleven inches square, and bound in cloth, making it more convenient to handle and carry about. The large charts of the earlier editions have not been reduced in size or form, but are printed from the old plates, and when the book is open, spread across two pages. This method and manner of printing the book adds greatly to its cost, but the buyer gets far more than the additional cost in the increased value of the contents of the book, which contains twice as much as the previous edition. There are 170 double pages of descriptive matter in the book, or 340 single pages, and as each page contains one-half more matter than the page of an ordinary book, there are the equivalent of 500 pages of an ordinary book.

If the author had had to employ a skilled draughtsman to draw the charts, the cost of the book would have been prohibitive. In fact, the charts could not have been drawn that way, for the draughtsman would have had to have had the scriptural knowledge of the author; for the charts had to be thought out and developed under the direction and guidance of the Holy Spirit. In this, the Holy Spirit did not confuse the author by suggesting all the charts at one time. When one was completed, another was suggested. And upon more than one occasion when a problem arose, the answer was given in the night or at awakening in the morning.

The author does not claim infallibility for the charts, but having drawn the main chart, “Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth,” it stands to reason that in developing the sectional or topical charts, if he had made an error in the main chart, it would have been detected in the sectional or topical charts. It is this agreement in the study of the sectional or topical charts with the main chart that confirms the author in his belief that the charts are scripturally correct.

The author has always deplored the tendency of writers on dispensational truth to say uncharitable things of each other, and to unfairly present the side of their opponent; he has therefore earnestly and prayerfully sought to avoid any such criticisms and to simply expound the Word of God as the Holy Spirit opened it up to him. He has sought not to be influenced by any religious or doctrinal bias, and with “open mind” to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, and let the Scriptures say what they want to say. His writings therefore must be judged by their agreement or disagreement with the holy Scriptures.

With profound gratitude and thankfulness for the blessing of his heavenly Father upon the previous editions of this work, the author sends forth this third revised and enlarged edition, earnestly praying that it may be of untold blessing to thousands of God’s dear children who love the Lord’s appearing, and be an instrument in the hands of the Holy Spirit for the conversion of the unsaved, and of those who deceitfully handle the Word of God.
—Clarence Larkin, author
Sunnyside, Fox Chase, Philadelphia, PA
March 25, 1920
fair use: ----EXCERPT used for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY---- end excerpt

Grace and Peace
 
Don't remember which book I got the above graphic 3 form nature of man but grabbed the Preface from the book titled below:
fair use: ----EXCERPT used for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY----
(Dispensational Truth: God's Plan and Purpose in the Ages) The preparation and publication of this book is a wonderful story of divine leading. The author by profession was a mechanical engineer and architect. When he entered the gospel ministry directly from business and without any previous theological training, at the age of thirty-four, he believed that he would have no further use for his skill as a draughtsman and sold all his professional books and appliances except his drawing instruments. His first charge was in a small town, where he remained fifteen years.

He was not premillennialist at the time of his ordination, but his study of the Scriptures, aided by some books that fell into his hands, led him to adopt that view. He began to make large colored wall charts on “prophetic truth” for use on the pulpit. This led to his being invited to teach, in connection with his pastoral work, in two Bible institutes. During this time, he published a number of prophetic charts that had a wide circulation. These led to the request that he publish a book, illustrated with charts, on prophetic truth.

But it was not until the spring of 1915 that the Lord laid it upon his heart to prepare a work on dispensational truth or God’s plan and purpose in the ages illustrated with charts. The designing and drawing of the charts and the writing of the descriptive matter took over three years. The book therefore has not been hastily gotten up. It is the outcome of over thirty years of careful and patient study of the prophetic Scriptures, and aims to give not the opinions of men, but the teaching of the Word of God. The writer’s purpose has been to prepare a standard work on dispensational truth. That such a work was greatly longed for is evidenced by the reception the book has had. In ten months, the first edition was exhausted and was widely circulated all over the world. The first edition was a feeler to see whether such a book would be in demand, and so was printed and circulated in the cheapest form. When the author awoke to the fact that the book was what the students of prophecy were looking for, he decided to revise and enlarge the book and put it out in a more substantial and usable form, but before he could do this, a second edition was called for and had to be printed in the old form.

This, the third edition, has been revised and enlarged by the addition of twice as many charts and twice as much descriptive matter as the previous editions, and the charts are now inserted in the descriptive matter where they belong. The book has also been printed in Atlas form, eleven inches square, and bound in cloth, making it more convenient to handle and carry about. The large charts of the earlier editions have not been reduced in size or form, but are printed from the old plates, and when the book is open, spread across two pages. This method and manner of printing the book adds greatly to its cost, but the buyer gets far more than the additional cost in the increased value of the contents of the book, which contains twice as much as the previous edition. There are 170 double pages of descriptive matter in the book, or 340 single pages, and as each page contains one-half more matter than the page of an ordinary book, there are the equivalent of 500 pages of an ordinary book.

If the author had had to employ a skilled draughtsman to draw the charts, the cost of the book would have been prohibitive. In fact, the charts could not have been drawn that way, for the draughtsman would have had to have had the scriptural knowledge of the author; for the charts had to be thought out and developed under the direction and guidance of the Holy Spirit. In this, the Holy Spirit did not confuse the author by suggesting all the charts at one time. When one was completed, another was suggested. And upon more than one occasion when a problem arose, the answer was given in the night or at awakening in the morning.

The author does not claim infallibility for the charts, but having drawn the main chart, “Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth,” it stands to reason that in developing the sectional or topical charts, if he had made an error in the main chart, it would have been detected in the sectional or topical charts. It is this agreement in the study of the sectional or topical charts with the main chart that confirms the author in his belief that the charts are scripturally correct.

The author has always deplored the tendency of writers on dispensational truth to say uncharitable things of each other, and to unfairly present the side of their opponent; he has therefore earnestly and prayerfully sought to avoid any such criticisms and to simply expound the Word of God as the Holy Spirit opened it up to him. He has sought not to be influenced by any religious or doctrinal bias, and with “open mind” to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, and let the Scriptures say what they want to say. His writings therefore must be judged by their agreement or disagreement with the holy Scriptures.

With profound gratitude and thankfulness for the blessing of his heavenly Father upon the previous editions of this work, the author sends forth this third revised and enlarged edition, earnestly praying that it may be of untold blessing to thousands of God’s dear children who love the Lord’s appearing, and be an instrument in the hands of the Holy Spirit for the conversion of the unsaved, and of those who deceitfully handle the Word of God.
—Clarence Larkin, author
Sunnyside, Fox Chase, Philadelphia, PA
March 25, 1920
fair use: ----EXCERPT used for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY---- end excerpt

Grace and Peace

Well his dispensational charts will be a dead work for him. Wood hay and stubble to be burned in the fire. No telling how many people he has led astray into vanity with them
 
I shared it because truth sometimes needs to be said plainly — not to divide, but to remind us what our focus should be: building up the body of Christ in love.

The only focus that True Believers have------ IS ---Building up the Body of Christ in Agape amongst the True believing Church ----The Division comes NOT From True Believing Church ----it comes from the False Believers who have infiltrated the Church of True Believers ---and The False Believers need to be Weeded out of the True Believing Church ---only then will you have peace --harmony and Agape flowing through the True Believing Church -----

True believers who Agape God with all their Heart --soul --mind and strength with not be divided -----they will work together in Agape to please and obey God -----

Satan"s influence is the divider in God's True Church ------ the Wolf in Sheep's clothing ----


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True believers can tell who are the Dividers ---(-Wolves in Sheep's clothing ) are on this sight by having a good knowledge of the Scriptures and what is being posted by the person on this sight -----

Any Postings that go against the Word of God --will be your divider ----God's True Church will never post anything that is contrary to what the scripture says -----The Holy Spirit will never direct anyone to post anything that is contrary to His Word -----Discernment is Needed here Folks

AI Agrees

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Numerous Bible passages support the principle that the Holy Spirit will never direct a person to go against God's Word
. The Holy Spirit and the Bible, which is the written Word of God, are in complete harmony because both have God as their source.

The Holy Spirit and the Word of God
The following Scriptures outline the inseparable relationship between the Holy Spirit and God's Word:
  • The Spirit is the source of all Scripture. "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16). The Spirit guided the biblical authors to write God's truth, so He cannot contradict the message He inspired.
  • The Spirit guides into all truth. In John 16:13, Jesus says, "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come". The Holy Spirit communicates what He hears from the Father and glorifies the Son, not Himself. This means the Spirit's guidance will always be consistent with the complete truth of Scripture.
  • The Spirit enables obedience to the law. The Bible describes the Spirit's role in writing God's law on believers' hearts to enable them to walk in God's statutes (Hebrews 10:16; Ezekiel 36:27). He provides the power to obey, not the impulse to disobey.
  • The Spirit produces righteous fruit. The work of the Holy Spirit in a person's life is evident through the fruit of the Spirit, which includes love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, and self-control (Galatians 5:22–23). These virtues are fully aligned with God's commands and moral character.

How to discern a spirit's guidance
If a person feels prompted to do something that seems to conflict with God's written Word, the Bible provides a way to test that guidance:
  • Test the spirits: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1).
  • Beware of false teaching: The apostle Paul warned against those who twist scripture for their own gain. Any supposed leading that promotes disobedience is a counterfeit, not the work of the Holy Spirit.
  • A spirit of liberty, not of bondage: The Holy Spirit brings freedom from the power of sin, not a spirit of fear or condemnation (Romans 8:15). Any direction that leads to a lifestyle contrary to Scripture is not true freedom.