Righteousness

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The purpose of this thread is to discuss the basics of what it means to attain character trait, what it means to have a character trait, and then to understand what the Bible specifically says about the trait of righteousness in a way that does not depart from the simplicity of that framework.

Character traits are not earned as the result of our works but rather they are embodied through our works. The one and only way to attain a character trait is through faith apart from being required to have first done enough works in order to earn it as the result, but what it means to attain a character trait is to become a doer of works that embody that trait, so it would contradictory for to attain a character trait apart from becoming a doer of that trait. More specifically, the faith by which a character trait is attained is the belief that we ought have our lives directed at being a doer of works that embody that trait.

We embody what we believe to be true about who God is through our works, such as with James 2:18saying that he would show his faith through his works. In other words, the way to believe in God is by believing that we ought to have our lives directed at embody His likeness through being a doer of His character traits. For example, by being a doer of good works in obedience to God we are embodying His goodness, which is why our good works bring glory to Him (Matthew 5:16), and by embodying God's goodness we are also expressing the belief that God is good. Likewise, the way to believe that God is compassionate is by being compassionate, the way to believe that God is a doer of justice is by being a doer of justice, the way to believe that God is holy is by being a doer of His instructions for how to be holy as He is holy, and so forth. This is exactly the way to believe in the Son, who is the radiance of God's glory and the exact likeness of His character (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied through his works by setting an example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God's law, and it is by that faith alone that we attain the character traits of God.

While it is true that Abraham believed God, so he was declared righteous (Genesis 15:6), it is also true that he believed God, so he was a doer of righteous works (Genesis 18:19), so the faith by which he was declared righteous was also embodied through his works, but he did not earn his righteousness as the result of his works (Romans 4:1-5). In James 2:21-24, it quotes Genesis 15:6 to support saying that Abraham was declared righteous by his works when he offered Isaac, that his faith was active along with his works, and his faith completed his works, so he was declared righteous by his works insofar as they embodied his faith but not insofar as they were earning a wage. In 1 John 3:7, everyone who is a doer of righteous works is righteous even as they are righteous, so while we do not earn our righteousness as the result of our works, there is is no such thing as someone being righteous apart from being a doer of righteous works, but rather the content of the gift of being imputed with the righteousness of God is getting to become a doer of righteous works.
 
Abraham set out to do the 'righteous work' of sacrificing Abraham (of which he was ultimately commanded to refrain from doing) because he believed that God possessed the power to raise the dead.
 
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Abraham was declared righteous through his faith, but it can be said that he was saved through his obedience because anyone who wasn't circumcised was cut off from God's promises. I think realistically that included Abraham
 
Righteousness is imputed. It is not acquired through activity.
You have the order backwards. We don't become loving by performing what we believe are loving acts. Rather, God sheds His love abroad in our hearts, and this produces loving acts on our part.
 
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Righteousness is imputed. It is not acquired through activity.
You have the order backwards. We don't become loving by performing what we believe are loving acts. Rather, God sheds His love abroad in our hearts, and this produces loving acts on our part.

Being declared righteous, ie justification, is just the first step in salvation. Those loving acts produced by the spirit are works of obedience to the spirit.
 
Abraham set out to do the 'righteous work' of sacrificing Abraham (of which he was ultimately commanded
to refrain from doing) because he believed that God possessed the power to raise the dead.
Isaac... the child of promise .:)
 
Being declared righteous, ie justification, is just the first step in salvation. Those loving acts produced by the spirit are works of obedience to the spirit.
Romans 5:5 says the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts. What work of obedience caused this? Philippians 2:13 says God is at work in us willing and doing of His good will. What acts of obedience caused that? The fruit of the Spirit produced by the Spirit mentioned in Galatians 5:22-23: what acts of obedience produced this?
 
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the basics of what it means to attain character trait, what it means to have a character trait, and then to understand what the Bible specifically says about the trait of righteousness in a way that does not depart from the simplicity of that framework.

Character traits are not earned as the result of our works but rather they are embodied through our works. The one and only way to attain a character trait is through faith apart from being required to have first done enough works in order to earn it as the result, but what it means to attain a character trait is to become a doer of works that embody that trait, so it would contradictory for to attain a character trait apart from becoming a doer of that trait. More specifically, the faith by which a character trait is attained is the belief that we ought have our lives directed at being a doer of works that embody that trait.

We embody what we believe to be true about who God is through our works, such as with James 2:18saying that he would show his faith through his works. In other words, the way to believe in God is by believing that we ought to have our lives directed at embody His likeness through being a doer of His character traits. For example, by being a doer of good works in obedience to God we are embodying His goodness, which is why our good works bring glory to Him (Matthew 5:16), and by embodying God's goodness we are also expressing the belief that God is good. Likewise, the way to believe that God is compassionate is by being compassionate, the way to believe that God is a doer of justice is by being a doer of justice, the way to believe that God is holy is by being a doer of His instructions for how to be holy as He is holy, and so forth. This is exactly the way to believe in the Son, who is the radiance of God's glory and the exact likeness of His character (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied through his works by setting an example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God's law, and it is by that faith alone that we attain the character traits of God.

While it is true that Abraham believed God, so he was declared righteous (Genesis 15:6), it is also true that he believed God, so he was a doer of righteous works (Genesis 18:19), so the faith by which he was declared righteous was also embodied through his works, but he did not earn his righteousness as the result of his works (Romans 4:1-5). In James 2:21-24, it quotes Genesis 15:6 to support saying that Abraham was declared righteous by his works when he offered Isaac, that his faith was active along with his works, and his faith completed his works, so he was declared righteous by his works insofar as they embodied his faith but not insofar as they were earning a wage. In 1 John 3:7, everyone who is a doer of righteous works is righteous even as they are righteous, so while we do not earn our righteousness as the result of our works, there is is no such thing as someone being righteous apart from being a doer of righteous works, but rather the content of the gift of being imputed with the righteousness of God is getting to become a doer of righteous works.

Righteousness is simplified or summarized in the NT by the trait of love (Matt. 22:37-40, John 13:34-35, Rom. 5:5, Gal. 5:6).
 
Your works just aren't good enough.

lol not good enough for what? Justification? Duh. I'm already justified so there's nothing left to do in that regard.

Not good enough for sanctification? Ridiculous. Any and every believer can keep their vessels clean if they so choose. But if they think they are totally disabled and haven't been given the ability to do that, well then it's as they say, use it or lose it.
 
There is saved to go to heaven when you die and there is saved from the ways of the world. Each have different requirements. Neither of them involve the law of Sinai.
 
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