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According to Scripture, the purpose of a male/female marriage is to be fruitful and multiply. Obviously, the male has a part that fits the females part by God's design. Now, does every time the act of sex produce a child, no, but I guess where the thought of practice makes perfect comes into mind. But one thing is for certain, oral sex and anal sex cannot ever produce children. That leads to the thought process that those sexual acts are not what God had intended (and why Homosexuality is a sin because any acts by same sex partners can never produce children).
As far as masturbation is concerned, will it be fruitful and multiply?
If we stay within the confines of what God instructed Adam and Eve, we can easily deduct what God's intent was compared to what our lusts contradicts.
As far as masturbation is concerned, will it be fruitful and multiply?
If we stay within the confines of what God instructed Adam and Eve, we can easily deduct what God's intent was compared to what our lusts contradicts.
"Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was evil in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life." -Genesis 38:9-10
Yes, but why did God think it was evil? Because he wasted his seed, or because of the reason he wasted his seed? I've always thought the latter, but haven't really studied it a lot, I could be wrong. Or it could be both. I've certainly committed more than one sin simultaneously with other sins.
This is not a scripture condemning masturbation, it is a scripture condemning disobedience to God's will. This disobedience just happened to include sexual activity.... which, to be blunt, actually sounds as if it is talking about withdrawing before climax, and ejaculating on the ground. He was with his dead brother's wife, do you think he masturbated in front of her, or simply "pulled out" before climax, so as not to get her pregnant? Read the scripture again...
I do not see how this is personal question but one of what does the bible say on the topic lol. I do not think those here would want to get into their personal sexual activities nor should they.
I will be having my 28 year of marriage on the 25th of April. One wife. I have kept my sex life as the word of Gods says.
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
The meaning in the Greek reads like this:
Marriage is an honorable thing and is so in all they do sexually (that is not spoken as detestable before the Lord) in the context of marriage however, those who practice adultery and who are whoremongers God will never accept.
This is why God will not bless gay marriage, adultery , fornication, or self gratification which masturbation is.
The marriage bed room of another, is none of your business nor is it any of mine.
Was it his rejecting his duty = sin. Or wasting his seed that God killed him? Or both? Why does Paul tell us it is better to marry than to burn? If non-productive sex is sin?
Excellent reply! You have answer my questions with honesty and scripture. The single issue I have with your Biblical understanding is the seemingly natural occasional urges and ambition of a widow or widower to masturbate according to the memories of their lost spouse and their loving bedroom experiences. I can't see that as sinful.
Paul was saying if you lack self-control get marriage. Or better yet put that drive into the work of God there will be plenty of time for that. as far as self-grad the Biblical account was not pour ones seed on the ground it was not obeying Gods word he did that out of rebellion to what God said to do. Because HE hated his brother. Context.
you assume one the widow has to masturbate and suggest it is nature and not lustful as the Bible describe it. The what if assumption of the " widow" to was strange because I never mentioned anything about such a person you did.
I mentioned the widow/widower, because while you made no mention of such people or any exceptions to masturbation being sinful. I was simply contributing the “what if” possibility/probability. Also I, while I appreciate your answer and scripture about the marriage bedroom, I would appreciate a biblical verse for your belief that masturbation is sin. The Bible I’m reading does describe fornication, adultery and homosexuality as sinful, but I’ve yet to find scripture condemning masturbation as sinful, though I, myself believe it is sinful lust “unless” performed in the loving bedroom memories of one’s spouse being lost to death.
Deal with this issue according to your conscience with God.
Yes, I believe it was both. Onan wanted pleasure without commitment. The literal rendering is actually "whenever Onan would go into his brother's wife..." This was ongoing. He was using her purely for pleasure.
as you know the word masturbation is not in the Bible so one must ask would one seek sexual act with oneself because they are missing sex. Does the act glorify God? Is the act praise worthy? Is the act elevated to please oneself?
I would say No, no, and yes. They last one is a type of hedonism which is idolatry. Also we do see this acts as type of sexual addiction. In the context of the origin of sex we too must ask is this acts what God intended it to be in the beginning?
masturbation
Fornication
adultery
homosexuality
lesbianism
notice with sexual sinned addiction the digression of more wicked acts of sin.
Does the act glorify God? Does the act offend God? Well since the act isn’t mentioned in the Bible and most every pre-teenaged child seems to find its pleasures naturally without lusting or even aware of the birds and bees and even sometimes at ages as early as 5 or 6 according to sexologist revelations, I seriously fail to believe God is offended by it until and unless it begins to incorporate lusting thoughts outside of the marriage memories.
Is the act praise worthy? I would think that all depends on by what thoughts it is stimulated and how pleasurable it is.
Is the act elevated to please oneself? Most definitely. When and what is pleasing one’s self sinful? Did God give us our hormones to resist or to create through loving relationships with our opposite sex and pro-create and give pleasure to our spouse? Why would a loving God deny us our loving memories and experience of that pleasure when our lover is lost?