Of this sort are they..........

[Shepherd]

3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

A sales rep came to my place of business several weeks ago and, during the conversation, I discovered that the salesman was soninlaw of a man who my fatherinlaw had purchased a restaurant from many years ago. He seemed to be a nice fellow so I mentioned the fact that my sisterinlaw still had all the recipes, from the restaurant, which he said were his mother's. He wanted the recipes so I gave him my wife's phone number, he contacted her, and she made arrangements for getting them to him. Weeks later, we met with him at a trade show/expo and my wife had brought the recipes for him. During the conversation the man was very rude to me but kept showering my wife with compliments. He spoke ill of his fatherinlaw, while bragging on himself, and mentioned that his fatherinlaw was a dishonest "get rich quick" schemer who "knew the Bible" inside and out but didn't practice it. Well, I had never met his fatherinlaw so I can't say what type of man he really was. But my wife was eating it all up, and even mentioned that her Dad was the same way. I've never heard her speak that way about her father to a stranger. My wife has always faithfully honored both of her parents. The whole interaction made me uncomfortable to say the least.

Have you encountered anyone who puts forth as a great guy while showering someone else's wife with compliments? I have a few times. This is all I will say for now. What say you?

 

[Shepherd]

No comments? Is this one of the "sort" 2 Timothy 3:5-7 is speaking of? Grooming and seducing other men's wives(creeping into houses?), with one's "spiritual authority", power, and position; even exploiting minors, from one's congregation, and abusing their trust? And to try to confront such a man is near to impossible because he's a wolf in sheep's clothing surrounded by pack members who would come down on you for "touching God's anointed". So I ask again, is it appropriate for a Christian, any Christian to inordinately shower someone else's wife with compliments? Is it a good idea to "counsel" them alone? I'm quite capable of praising my own wife and do so daily so, she doesn't need it from another man. . How about praising all the ladies on Mother's Day but raking the husbands over the coals on Father's Day for not quite measuring up as "leaders". It kind of leaves the impression that you're the only "spiritual leader" in the church and all the other men are failures. why wouldn't a few "silly women", who don't study their Bibles. be attracted to someone who abuses their authority in such a way?

 

[Shepherd]

Let me say, Jack Schaap may not have been the best choice for the photo because he spoke ill of and disrespected women. But he certainly abused his authority and power.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Let me say, Jack Schaap may not have been the best choice for the photo because he spoke ill of and disrespected women. But he certainly abused his authority and power.

I was offered a full ride scholarship to Hyles Anderson college before Jack Hyles died.
I just flew in from a business trip and a nice staff member/ recruiter, to my surprise, met me at the Pittsburgh airport. He flew from Indiana to my home church. My pastor told him where I was and he investigated and drove an hour and a half to meet me on a late flight at the airport.
He offered me the post grad scholarship. However I turned it down. I liked some of the staff and grads because I heard them preach and talked doctrine. However, as much as I appreciated him and the college in many ways, I had to reluctantly turn down the offer.

The problem was that certain staff members taught a false works based gospel. To the best of my recollection, I disagreed with Jack Schaaps gospel presentations. I reasoned that I should not be under a false teacher. I credit Jack Schaap for turning me away from the college. It wasn't until years later that he was convicted of a crime.

In hindsight, I should have prioritized the good staff, marked and avoided the false ones and accepted the scholarship.
That was the time and place to find a good wife. One thing about Independent Baptists is that they send their daughters to Bible college to get a MRS Degree.
I would likely have acquired one of those and my own MA Degree gratis of Dr Anderson, who I've always respected.