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This one works best on the big screen so the whole street can hear
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God calls it "The Word of Truth". Because every word of God is pure.THE TRUTH
Is any willing to discuss this on the bases that this great tribulation was also for the church when Peter spoke it and relevent for today
Is anyone willing to accept that Jesus through Peter was giving the church warning about Sodom.
2 Peter 2
False Teachers and Their Destruction
2 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness[b] to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.
13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.
17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”
Is anyone willing to accept that Jesus through Peter was giving the church warning about Sodom.
2 Peter 2
False Teachers and Their Destruction
2 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness[b] to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.
13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.
17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”
The Torah is truth (Psalms 119:142) and Jesus is the embodiment of the that truth (John 14:6).Remember God loves you
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The Rapture is for the Church. The Tribulation is to bring the Jewish people to an understanding of who Jesus is and to pour out God's wrath on an unbelieving world. The Bride shall marry the Bridegroom in Heaven before the return to Earth for the Second Coming and Millennial reign.
what's your views on people being raptured to hell right now
Baring in mind Jesus tell us the story of the rich man and lazarus.
We usually think of Rapture as going up, not down. "Rapture" is a future event.
It would be interesting to discuss the timeframe of this event. Does it refer to the future Lake of Fire, or something else? Is this the place where a man wishes to return and warn his brother's?
well this is my point friend all the parables I read and I mean all indicate they've happened
you have this backwards, friend -
Jesus is The Truth
and torah testifies of Him, John 5:39
regarding Psalm 119:142,the true law is to live one another as Christ first loved us - therefore Jesus is that Law.
Psalm 119 testifies of Christ, not Moses.
regarding Psalm 119:142, the true law is to love one another as Christ first loved us - therefore Jesus is that Law, not just one who obeyed Moses perfectly.
Psalm 119 testifies of Christ, not of Moses.
Moses testifies of Christ - for, prophesying of the Messiah, he says "one like me“ ((Deuteronomy 18:15));
Moses is a testimony of Him Who was to come, Who did come, and Who is to come again. YHWH Himself, become flesh: Who was, Who is, Who shall be.
The rich man isn't "raptured" - nor is Lazarus.
mixing terms here a lil: rapture only refers to "those who are alive and remain" when our Husband comes to take us away to the wedding.
how can the rich pharisee wish someone to be sent to return and warn anyone if the old ((present)) heavens and earth have been destroyed and all men already stand before the Lord in final judgment?
there is at that time, when all who do not believe are thrown into the lake of fire, nothing and no one to return to or to warn.
. Can you be sure the rich man and Lazarus has not happened
Baring in mind Jesus says whoever wants to save there life will lose there life,
But whoever loses there life for me will find it,
The word here is whoever should mean whoever
But besides this if your both saying the richman an Lazarus has not happened are you then saying there's no spiritual truth to parables
Then also you must be saying that a soul being lifted out of the body and placed in hell is not a rapture.
Do You both think of a rapture as up.
But which direction is up when the globe is always spinning
which direction is up
And why would you not believe a soul leaving its body is not a rapture
. I have an honest question.
Where any of lots servants he took with him to Sodom as righteous as lot and Abraham