Need to get this out there

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NoxVulpine said:
Let's look at it like this; gays are born gay. God creates man, which mean if somebody is born gay, then it is by Gods will that they are so. If it's such a horrible sin to be gay, why would God make somebody such a sinner from birth?
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Are you questioning God? Romans 1:25-28 because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie ans worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them over and abandoned them to vile affections and degrading passions. For their women exchanged their natural and abnormal one. And men also turned from natural relations with women and were set ablaze ( burning out, consumed) with lust for one another-men committing shameful acts with men and suffering in their own bodies and personalities the inevitable consequences and penalty of their wrong doing and going astray, which was [ their ] fitting retribution. And so, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or approve of Him or consider Him worth the knowing God gave them over to a base and condemned mindto do things not proper or decent but loathesome.

We love even the homo's because Jesus died for them too and so we show the word of God from the good old book
 
NoxVulpine said:
It just doesn't make sense... Why would God automatically condemn people because of something they can't control? Something their born with? It's like saying that people born with blonde hair or blue eyes are sinners even though they don't get to choose, they're just born that way.
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Romans 1

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.



26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.



28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

Ask God to help you overcome it, and he will help you if you want to overcome this sin.
 
NoxVulpine said:
I "isolate" the old testament because it is unrelated to Christ, related to God yes, but not Christ, and CHRIST is where our religion comes from.
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Age: 19

No offense kid, but you have no idea what you're talking about. You have this idea and you're trying to make the Bible fit into it.

It doesn't work that way.

Take it as it is or reject it entirely.
 
TheAristocat said:
Onan was not killed because he wasted semen but because he would not give his brother's wife a child. This is called Levirate marriage and was commanded by God in the Torah. Onan disobeyed God's Torah out of jealousy or indifference - I do not know why - and so died the death of a sinner. See Genesis 38:8-9..
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Actually the point I was making about masturbation was that Onan wasn't punished by God because he masturbated, but because of the reason why he masturbated.
 
But according to the Christian site TwoPaths, Christ disproved the Old Testament and instead told believers to follow what He taught as it is what God wished.
 
NoxVulpine said:
But according to the Christian site TwoPaths, Christ disproved the Old Testament and instead told believers to follow what He taught as it is what God wished.
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Do you have a link?


Also, seems to me Jesus thinks otherwise...

Matthew 5 said:
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
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xJoe said:
Christ did not mention homesexuality because he didn't have to. His listeners were Jewish and that in the time of Christ was not a big issue for jews. Now if the Jews were committing goads of homosexual acts Jesus would of corrected them. But they did not so he didn't have to.
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I think they probably were.
 
NoxVulpine! Nobody can be born gay. Being Bi, gay, or lesbian is a lifestyle choice that they can choose to become later in their life.
 
i don't believe that the act of masturbation itself is a sin, but most people use pornography or other impure thoughts as they do it, which is considered lust
 
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