Israel and the present conflict

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I've not followed Chuck Missler before. I've not been all that interested in last days events until fairly recently. Chuck Missler passed away in 2018 and I don't know when he preached this message. In light of recent events, it is fascinating to hear what he had to say. It's quite long, but well worth your time.
 

I've not followed Chuck Missler before. I've not been all that interested in last days events until fairly recently. Chuck Missler passed away in 2018 and I don't know when he preached this message. In light of recent events, it is fascinating to hear what he had to say. It's quite long, but well worth your time.

I have listened to his teachings, he saw and stated, very insightful to me back then listening to him. Taking everything said to Father, Daddy, PaPa, to learn truth over any errors I got in listening, never stating he does not know. Understanding, what evil does and wants.
Evil wants us, anyone to go after being better than others as in. Luke 18:9-14 tells me about Haughtiness in the flesh and blood that glories over doing better than others and getting those others to do better than them, flesh works, masquerading as God Work. Truth is When That age Old Serpent said to Eve "You will be wise as God". this, independency is what got planted in Adam and Eve: To be independent from God. Which today that same thought planted in us all ever since, to be indecently independent of God, The creator of us all.
Needs to be irradiated. Gone from each person permanently by the free choice to believe God it is done for thee John 19:30, John 1:29 for new life to begin in each person personally over trying to be leader or follower of other flesh and blood, as is going on presently in deceitfulness from Angelic beings, that have not repented to believe God, seeing what is done once for us all to choose and be new in love to all in the same mercy and truth of this
Love given us first 1 John 4:19 by God. Today is the day to turn, no matter where you are, been or might be again. Once anyone turns to believe God the new life begins and one is to come to rest in God, if see that need yet as revealed in Hebrews 4:9-13 to me now after not quitting belief to see, even through adversities, I still have and do through as well
 
Eze 38:14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

Eze 38:15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

Eze 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

It will be at the latter days which it is close.

God will be sanctified among the heathen so they do not know Him yet.

So it cannot be the battle at the end of the millennial reign for the heathen know God.

Eze 38:17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?

Eze 38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.

Eze 38:19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

Eze 38:20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

Eze 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

Eze 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

This battle happens after the 7 years is over.

Israel is protected for the 7 years period so as a nation they will not be touched.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

The woman is Israel and the 12 stars the 12 tribes of Israel.

The child is Jesus who will rule the nations.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Israel is protected for the first three and one half years.

Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Israel is protected for the last three and one half years.

Israel is protected for the 7 years period in which no nation can touch them.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Jer 46:27 But fear not thou, O my servant Jacob, and be not dismayed, O Israel: for, behold, I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and be in rest and at ease, and none shall make him afraid.

Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

God has the plan to restore the kingdom on earth to Israel so He will not allow the world to touch Israel for the 7 years period.

Because of the 7 years peace treaty it will pave the way for all Hebrews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it happen.

For the antichrist wants them on their land but God means it for good towards Israel.

During the first half salvation is available to the world.

When the world takes the mark of the beast the fulness of the Gentiles will have come in which salvation is no longer available to them.

God will send 2 witnesses to Israel to turn them to the truth for the last half and at the end of that time Israel as a nation will be in the truth.

Then the wrath of God will be poured upon the world leading up to the battle of Armageddon and that is when they attack Jerusalem, Israel which Jesus comes back with the saints and defeats the world and saves Israel.

They will not attack Israel before that time, no way, no how.

Eze 39:1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Eze 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:

Eze 39:3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

Eze 39:4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

Eze 39:5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Eze 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:5 and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

When they attack Israel after the 7 years period God will leave a 6th of the heathen and Jesus will rule over them.

Eze 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years.

Eze 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

Eze 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.

Eze 39:13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD.

This 7 years that they burn weapons cannot happen during the 7 years period that the antichrist works in the world for the world does not attack them during the 7 years.

But it has to happen during the first 7 years of the millennial reign along with 7 months of burying the bodies.
 
Eze 38:14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

Eze 38:15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

Eze 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

It will be at the latter days which it is close.

God will be sanctified among the heathen so they do not know Him yet.

So it cannot be the battle at the end of the millennial reign for the heathen know God.

Eze 38:17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?

Eze 38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.

Eze 38:19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

Eze 38:20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

Eze 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

Eze 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

This battle happens after the 7 years is over.

Israel is protected for the 7 years period so as a nation they will not be touched.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

The woman is Israel and the 12 stars the 12 tribes of Israel.

The child is Jesus who will rule the nations.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Israel is protected for the first three and one half years.

Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Israel is protected for the last three and one half years.

Israel is protected for the 7 years period in which no nation can touch them.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Jer 46:27 But fear not thou, O my servant Jacob, and be not dismayed, O Israel: for, behold, I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and be in rest and at ease, and none shall make him afraid.

Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

God has the plan to restore the kingdom on earth to Israel so He will not allow the world to touch Israel for the 7 years period.

Because of the 7 years peace treaty it will pave the way for all Hebrews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it happen.

For the antichrist wants them on their land but God means it for good towards Israel.

During the first half salvation is available to the world.

When the world takes the mark of the beast the fulness of the Gentiles will have come in which salvation is no longer available to them.

God will send 2 witnesses to Israel to turn them to the truth for the last half and at the end of that time Israel as a nation will be in the truth.

Then the wrath of God will be poured upon the world leading up to the battle of Armageddon and that is when they attack Jerusalem, Israel which Jesus comes back with the saints and defeats the world and saves Israel.

They will not attack Israel before that time, no way, no how.

Eze 39:1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Eze 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:

Eze 39:3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

Eze 39:4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

Eze 39:5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Eze 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:5 and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

When they attack Israel after the 7 years period God will leave a 6th of the heathen and Jesus will rule over them.

Eze 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years.

Eze 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

Eze 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.

Eze 39:13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD.

This 7 years that they burn weapons cannot happen during the 7 years period that the antichrist works in the world for the world does not attack them during the 7 years.

But it has to happen during the first 7 years of the millennial reign along with 7 months of burying the bodies.

I have to consider that there is something seriously wrong with this construct of interpretation.
Ezekiel, Jeremiah and Zechariah all lived shortly before and during the Babylonian captivity.
They had every reason to tell the people of the coming wars and of the restoration of Israel that followed.
This interpretation puts all the events so far into the future as if to pretend that none of it ever happened.
Having read the books in their entirety, I also see that the interpretation "proves" too much.
The temple would have to be rebuilt, the sacrifices restored and all the Mosaic ritual once again observed.
Reading from Ezekiel 37 to the end of the book will confirm this.
Jesus is the final sacrifice for sin, and to restore all these things after His blood has already been shed is an insult to God.
This is all so uncharacteristic to the Gospel, and it is time you people started looking at the whole Bible through a different lense.
 
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I do not like hating
Romans 9 covers the branch, and talks of how easy we are grafted in. Get proud, boastful and see how easily we can be grafted out read all of Chapter 9

What sort of Hating do you actually dislike?
I am in a situation where I must prove my faithfulness to Jesus.
I must not compromise this for the feelings of others.
Talmudic Judaism teaches that Jesus is now boiling in excrement, and we should be looking for another messiah to replace Him.
I therefore hate Talmudic Judaism, as I also hate all forms of Judaism that do not believe in Jesus.
That does not mean I hate my Jewish neighbor.
My hearts desire is that he will become a Christian, but if he does not I do not want to send him to bring up his children in the dusty ruins of the prison that Jesus escaped from.
It is a delusional environment there, and great pains are gone to to prevent these children getting their hands on a New Testament.
I also notice that you people have a lot of hatred towards the Arabs.
How can that be justified?
 
I have to consider that there is something seriously wrong with this construct of interpretation.
Ezekiel, Jeremiah and Zechariah all lived shortly before and during the Babylonian captivity.
They had every reason to tell the people of the coming wars and of the restoration of Israel that followed.
This interpretation puts all the events so far into the future as if to pretend that none of it ever happened.
Having read the books in their entirety, I also see that the interpretation "proves" too much.
The temple would have to be rebuilt, the sacrifices restored and all the Mosaic ritual once again observed.
Reading from Ezekiel 37 to the end of the book will confirm this.
Jesus is the final sacrifice for sin, and to restore all these things after His blood has already been shed is an insult to God.
This is all so uncharacteristic to the Gospel, and it is time you people started looking at the whole Bible through a different lense.

Maybe through God Father's lens Romans 12:2, thank you, so much to learn and much confusion still, which to me only Father can sort it out, thanks
 
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What sort of Hating do you actually dislike?
I am in a situation where I must prove my faithfulness to Jesus.
I must not compromise this for the feelings of others.
Talmudic Judaism teaches that Jesus is now boiling in excrement, and we should be looking for another messiah to replace Him.
I therefore hate Talmudic Judaism, as I also hate all forms of Judaism that do not believe in Jesus.
That does not mean I hate my Jewish neighbor.
My hearts desire is that he will become a Christian, but if he does not I do not want to send him to bring up his children in the dusty ruins of the prison that Jesus escaped from.
It is a delusional environment there, and great pains are gone to to prevent these children getting their hands on a New Testament.
I also notice that you people have a lot of hatred towards the Arabs.
How can that be justified?

I hate "Sin" "unbelief" to God in God's Love and Mercy given for us all to turn to God and trust God. God knows the best for each of us. each personally Putting on God's vest daily, risen Son. Learning daily from mistakes made, trusting from God I remain forgiven by God Phil 3:1-20 I then can learn once see by God I am and remain forgiven by God to see and learn new
I see to bloom wherever I am planted that day and so as led that day. Not that I always listen and not that I have not sinned again, or that I need to repent again.
I see it is finished by God through Son for all, not only me. And the new life is in the risen Life not the dead life. God is not God of the dead. Son is risen and that be where new life is offered at.
Believe God, recieve truth from God and be new in God without anymore having to think it over. .Just do the same love, mercy and truth for you personally too.
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Yet, presently today, in risen Son, all that is left is, To believe God or not consciously so. Make the chocie
Romans 14:23
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever isnot of faith is sin.

That Chapter is deeper than just about food. So much deeper
To believe God and not be moved from belief to God, teachers one to be set free as in Col 2 tells me about and 1 Cor 15 amazing to me at least We are by Son being rise are set free
I can do whatever I choose. What. NO!
You will make a mockery of God! Really? You think so. Do you not see religion using Law to keep people captivated in Law to not do and be guilty or in pride. Attitudes of the flesh nature still since and excuses sin, accuses people of sin and abuses people,
"I did it, you didn't," Nah Nah Nah, Luke 18:9-14 Who is Justified in those verses scenario?
Father, thank you I need you, thank you
 
Talmudic Judaism teaches that Jesus is now boiling in excrement,

Highly debatable and very questionable. I don't like using Wikipedia as a source for anything but they do have a good post on this subject.


and we should be looking for another messiah to replace Him.

We know the Jews are still looking for their Messiah, we also know they are blinded until He comes again and they will know Him and recognize Him and mourn.

I therefore hate Talmudic Judaism, as I also hate all forms of Judaism that do not believe in Jesus.

The same as the Islamic beliefs, Mormons, Catholic etc.

That does not mean I hate my Jewish neighbor.
My hearts desire is that he will become a Christian, but if he does not I do not want to send him to bring up his children in the dusty ruins of the prison that Jesus escaped from.

All we can do is plant the seed. It's up to God from there.



I also notice that you people have a lot of hatred towards the Arabs.

Who is "you people"? Hate for terrorists, for an evil false religion, for all Arabs, no.
 
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I hate "Sin" "unbelief" to God in God's Love and Mercy given for us all to turn to God and trust God. God knows the best for each of us. each personally Putting on God's vest daily, risen Son. Learning daily from mistakes made, trusting from God I remain forgiven by God Phil 3:1-20 I then can learn once see by God I am and remain forgiven by God to see and learn new
I see to bloom wherever I am planted that day and so as led that day. Not that I always listen and not that I have not sinned again, or that I need to repent again.
I see it is finished by God through Son for all, not only me. And the new life is in the risen Life not the dead life. God is not God of the dead. Son is risen and that be where new life is offered at.
Believe God, recieve truth from God and be new in God without anymore having to think it over. .Just do the same love, mercy and truth for you personally too.
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Yet, presently today, in risen Son, all that is left is, To believe God or not consciously so. Make the chocie
Romans 14:23
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever isnot of faith is sin.

That Chapter is deeper than just about food. So much deeper
To believe God and not be moved from belief to God, teachers one to be set free as in Col 2 tells me about and 1 Cor 15 amazing to me at least We are by Son being rise are set free
I can do whatever I choose. What. NO!
You will make a mockery of God! Really? You think so. Do you not see religion using Law to keep people captivated in Law to not do and be guilty or in pride. Attitudes of the flesh nature still since and excuses sin, accuses people of sin and abuses people,
"I did it, you didn't," Nah Nah Nah, Luke 18:9-14 Who is Justified in those verses scenario?
Father, thank you I need you, thank you

You and I are the same in most of what you wrote.
I still see much spiritual wickedness in the teaching that modern Israel and God's Israel are one and the same.
If modern Israel were to be occupied by another power such as Iran yet retain the same name "Israel", would people still think they had to bless the Iranians because of Genesis 12?
If not, why do they not recognize that Israel is occupied by a foreign power now?
Paul defends the free offer of the Gospel to his kinsmen, and tells us that God has reserved a remnant among them (Rom 11).
How is it that intelligent people still think Paul's kinsmen all identify as Jewish to this day?
I also think we should hate lies and love truth.
 
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You and I are the same in most of what you wrote.
I still see much spiritual wickedness in the teaching that modern Israel and God's Israel are one and the same.
If modern Israel were to be occupied by another power such as Iran yet retain the same name "Israel", would people still think they had to bless the Iranians because of Genesis 12?
If not, why do they not recognize that Israel is occupied by a foreign power now?
Paul defends the free offer of the Gospel to his kinsmen, and tells us that God has reserved a remnant among them (Rom 11).
How is it that intelligent people still think Paul's kinsmen all identify as Jewish to this day?
I also think we should hate lies and love truth.
Modern Israel was foretold by the prophets. Spurgeon thought that Jews needed a homeland. Sir Isaac Newton, predicted the start of Zionism, even the time it would happen. He was out by about a year.

You need to get it into your head that God still deals with the nation of Israel. There is no separate salvation for Jews and Christians, but that is irrelevant. Jesus will return to stand on the mount of Olives, not mount Rushmore. Sorry about that, America.
 
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Modern Israel was foretold by the prophets. Spurgeon thought that Jews needed a homeland. Sir Isaac Newton, predicted the start of Zionism, even the time it would happen. He was out by about a year.

You need to get it into your head that God still deals with the nation of Israel. There is no separate salvation for Jews and Christians, but that is irrelevant. Jesus will return to stand on the mount of Olives, not mount Rushmore. Sorry about that, America.

Sorry about that America, sorry Jerusalem that is now and sorry to every part of the world.
Nothing of this world will be glorified when Jesus comes.

Luke 17: "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

Mathew 24:23 "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together."


Jerusalem which is above (Galatians 4:26) is a spiritual reality, as is the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16).
Yes, Zechariah 14:4 foretells that Jesus would stand on the mount of olives, and that is exactly where He was standing when He gave the teachings above.
 
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Jerusalem which is above (Galatians 4:26) is a spiritual reality, as is the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16).
Yes, Zechariah 14:4 foretells that Jesus would stand on the mount of olives, and that is exactly where He was standing when He gave the teachings above.

An obvious fulfillment, but Zechariah 14:4-5 is a difficult prophecy to decipher primarily because the Masoretes inserted their tradition of the messiah splitting apart the Mt of Olives like Moses split the Red Sea into that prophecy simply by altering the pronunciation of one word. The LXX preserved the original reading. Explained on this website:

Azal: A Longtime Mystery Rediscovered
https://zechariahfourteenfive.wordpress.com
 
You and I are the same in most of what you wrote.
I still see much spiritual wickedness in the teaching that modern Israel and God's Israel are one and the same.
If modern Israel were to be occupied by another power such as Iran yet retain the same name "Israel", would people still think they had to bless the Iranians because of Genesis 12?
If not, why do they not recognize that Israel is occupied by a foreign power now?
Paul defends the free offer of the Gospel to his kinsmen, and tells us that God has reserved a remnant among them (Rom 11).
How is it that intelligent people still think Paul's kinsmen all identify as Jewish to this day?
I also think we should hate lies and love truth.

1 Corinthians 3:6
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

Just plant and water as led in the risen Savior, Jesus please. Search out the truth from Father personally
Take care of our own boards in our own eye, first. Then one can see to remove specks in other's eyes and not argue, or fight in the first birth of flesh and blood anymore. Day one anyone believes God, between God and them, God and Son Step in. the new begins, starts with justified by Son's done work. then one and many begin to learn new and grow into maturity seeing to let go of 1 Cor 3 and turn to God in growing up as in Hebrews 5:12 reading through Chapter 6 for us to see to remain humble, even if we think we know evil, as many think. that, seeing Matthew 10:16-20. Forgetting to remain harmless, become evil themselves in fighting others as if they are right and those other over there are wrong Luke 18:9-14, and Matthew 18:24-35 I see to not be taken back to court, I see God Father is really all in all and see Psalm 82 to not be proud, as if I am better than anyone else Romans 2:1-4
 
All we can do is plant the seed. It's up to God from there.

Yep, I got a rake, you got a shovel or visa versa, matters not. I will rake the scattered seed to the fertile soil, where you dig a hole to plant these to grow fertile over many mistakes made growing up and not withering out
"A mighty Oak tree, was a small nut that stood its ground"
We start out religious nuts, that can grow into Spiritual fruit, the singer grow up spiritually and see humbly. Many times arrogantly art first. Thanks for your insights
 
1 Corinthians 3:6
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

Just plant and water as led in the risen Savior, Jesus please. Search out the truth from Father personally
Take care of our own boards in our own eye, first. Then one can see to remove specks in other's eyes and not argue, or fight in the first birth of flesh and blood anymore. Day one anyone believes God, between God and them, God and Son Step in. the new begins, starts with justified by Son's done work. then one and many begin to learn new and grow into maturity seeing to let go of 1 Cor 3 and turn to God in growing up as in Hebrews 5:12 reading through Chapter 6 for us to see to remain humble, even if we think we know evil, as many think. that, seeing Matthew 10:16-20. Forgetting to remain harmless, become evil themselves in fighting others as if they are right and those other over there are wrong Luke 18:9-14, and Matthew 18:24-35 I see to not be taken back to court, I see God Father is really all in all and see Psalm 82 to not be proud, as if I am better than anyone else Romans 2:1-4

It is unclear here what you are asking me to do.
Should I not expose evil?
If I fail to do that I would have to repent before God.
Should I humble myself to Him or to spiritual wickedness and false doctrine?
It is no value to us to be called "Christian" by men.
It does not even make us brothers.
We all need God to see something of the character and mind of Jesus in us.
He will test our faith.
Modern Israel is one of those tests.
Will we bless Jesus, or will we bless the idol?
Genesis 12:3 in light of Galatians 3:16, Galatians 3:29 and Galatians 6:16.