Is the Bible Still Relevant Today?

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newton3003

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There are some who wonder if the Bible, including everything in it, is still relevant today. There are others who prioritize what The Bible tells us to do, differently than when the Bible was first referred to, thereby changing the priorities.

Jesus said the Old Testament, which he came to fulfill, can be summed up in two great commandments, the first being to love God with all your heart, soul and mind, and the second being to love your neighbor as yourself.

Based on what Jesus said concerning the second commandment, if we encounter strangers we should first consider if they make good neighbors, as Jesus defines a neighbor in his Parable of the Good Samaritan. If they then act with hostility and are a threat to our households, we would then defend ourselves with 1 Timothy 5:8 in mind.

But people assert that times have changed, and people change since, say, when the Egyptian Pharaoh welcomed the House of Jacob. So, those people now say that our first priority is not to see if a stranger can be our neighbor, say, but rather it is to first be ready to defend ourselves against said stranger, and to love the stranger as a neighbor if the stranger proves to be a neighbor. So, as a result we wall off everyone, even those who really can be our neighbors.

Some of those people assert that the Egyptian Pharaoh welcomed the House of Jacob because they were small in numbers, so if the Bible tells us to love the sojourner as a neighbor, and that is based on the Pharaoh welcoming the House of Jacob, well, nowadays we have to contend with thousands who want to go to a country to live. On that basis, they assert, nowadays we don’t have to abide by Jesus’ commandment to love our neighbor, which may include strangers inasmuch as his commandment includes loving the stranger, because there are so many of them! Therefore, the second commandment of Jesus is no longer relevant?

Regardless of what the issues are, the words in the Bible are as relevant today as they were when the Bible was first penned. There is no change in its meaning, except perhaps to the extent that some of the meaning may have been lost in translation. Still, the meaning of the Bible is mostly the same today as thousands of years ago, and it is just as relevant.

How do we know this? The Bible tells us so. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says, “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.”

What do the Scriptures say? Malachi 3:6 says, “For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.” Well, if God doesn’t change, then surely the words breathed out by Him into the Scriptures do not change either. And is not Malachi one of the prophets that Jesus came to uphold?

And Moses, another prophet that Jesus came to uphold, says in Deuteronomy 7:9, “Know therefore that the LORD your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations.” Well, we are still within the timeframe of the generations if you consider a generation to be 20 years, but for the benefit of at least the next thousand generations, I tell you that anyone at a point in time who reads that passage can count one thousand generations from that point in time.

So, for thousands of generations God is around, and since God doesn’t change, the Bible doesn’t change either. It is as relevant today as it was then, regardless of how many people populate the earth now compared to then, regardless of whether we read by a lightbulb now compared to a candle then, regardless of whether we can fly around now compared to just travelling on foot or horseback or camelback or on boats then, and regardless of whether the weapons used are more destructive now compared to then…you get the picture.
 

FollowHisSteps

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There are some who wonder if the Bible, including everything in it, is still relevant today. There are others who prioritize what The Bible tells us to do, differently than when the Bible was first referred to, thereby changing the priorities.

Jesus said the Old Testament, which he came to fulfill, can be summed up in two great commandments, the first being to love God with all your heart, soul and mind, and the second being to love your neighbor as yourself.

Based on what Jesus said concerning the second commandment, if we encounter strangers we should first consider if they make good neighbors, as Jesus defines a neighbor in his Parable of the Good Samaritan. If they then act with hostility and are a threat to our households, we would then defend ourselves with 1 Timothy 5:8 in mind.

But people assert that times have changed, and people change since, say, when the Egyptian Pharaoh welcomed the House of Jacob. So, those people now say that our first priority is not to see if a stranger can be our neighbor, say, but rather it is to first be ready to defend ourselves against said stranger, and to love the stranger as a neighbor if the stranger proves to be a neighbor. So, as a result we wall off everyone, even those who really can be our neighbors.

Some of those people assert that the Egyptian Pharaoh welcomed the House of Jacob because they were small in numbers, so if the Bible tells us to love the sojourner as a neighbor, and that is based on the Pharaoh welcoming the House of Jacob, well, nowadays we have to contend with thousands who want to go to a country to live. On that basis, they assert, nowadays we don’t have to abide by Jesus’ commandment to love our neighbor, which may include strangers inasmuch as his commandment includes loving the stranger, because there are so many of them! Therefore, the second commandment of Jesus is no longer relevant?

Regardless of what the issues are, the words in the Bible are as relevant today as they were when the Bible was first penned. There is no change in its meaning, except perhaps to the extent that some of the meaning may have been lost in translation. Still, the meaning of the Bible is mostly the same today as thousands of years ago, and it is just as relevant.

How do we know this? The Bible tells us so. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says, “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.”

What do the Scriptures say? Malachi 3:6 says, “For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.” Well, if God doesn’t change, then surely the words breathed out by Him into the Scriptures do not change either. And is not Malachi one of the prophets that Jesus came to uphold?

And Moses, another prophet that Jesus came to uphold, says in Deuteronomy 7:9, “Know therefore that the LORD your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations.” Well, we are still within the timeframe of the generations if you consider a generation to be 20 years, but for the benefit of at least the next thousand generations, I tell you that anyone at a point in time who reads that passage can count one thousand generations from that point in time.

So, for thousands of generations God is around, and since God doesn’t change, the Bible doesn’t change either. It is as relevant today as it was then, regardless of how many people populate the earth now compared to then, regardless of whether we read by a lightbulb now compared to a candle then, regardless of whether we can fly around now compared to just travelling on foot or horseback or camelback or on boats then, and regardless of whether the weapons used are more destructive now compared to then…you get the picture.
The bible is relevant if you live it and believe it. It is Gods message to our souls.
 

TM19782017

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Dec 15, 2018
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People are so diverse and different in the things that matter very little.

However, we are all exactly the same in the area that matters the most......Country to country, love is the foundation for all.
 

memyselfi

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Jan 12, 2017
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Are there still humans today? ….. Did G-d change with modern times?

THE BIBLE IS RELEVANT!!!!

Human nature changes... People are still going to hell the same and going to heave the same.... Everything is people choosing Messiah or hell!!!
 

Lanolin

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Hmm yes Bible is always relevant.

I dont know what you mean about egypt though. The Pharoah welcomed slaves or hebrew labourers because he wanted to build up his country, but when they got too populous and threatened to overhwhelm the majority native population he wanted them out, and even got to killing newborns to do this. . This happens in countries all over the world they are ok when those in power are a majority becuase the minorities dont have the power or numbers to overthrow them. They can be used as cheap labourers. They arent given the vote. Then they can be sent back when their visas run out. They dont own any land.

I mean yes show hospitality to your guests but you cant treat them as invaders. With the hebrews maybe they got used to the egyptian lifestyle but God actually wanted to give them the promised land he didnt want them to stay in egypt. I dont think the hebrews intended to over run egypt and seize power though Jospeh proved himself to be pharoahs 2ic.

With israel and palestine will thats a huge landmine sometimes you dont really know whos trying to keep out who. The jews want to be majority there so want to exclude anyone not jewish, the palestianins the same, and the christians seem to be caught up in the fray. But both sides cant actually function without the other it seems.

Anyone whos ever been a minority or enslaved know what it feels like? How did Hagar feel like to be sarahs maid. Or an employee of an employer way more powerful?
 

crossnote

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As long as there is sin and death, the Bible is relevant.
 

PennEd

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Well since the op is trying to relate the situation with Israel 4000 yrs ago with the United States today, why not fulfill ALL God's commands to Israel.

I guess we should slay every man woman and child that isn't Christian then? Cause ya know, GOD told them to do that as well!

This is how asinine it is to take commands given to ancient Israel and apply them on the U.S. today.
 

Lanolin

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Im not sure the US can be likened to the nation of Israel since God actually had specific things he wanted the Israelites to do that cant be applied to whats happening in the US today. Plus its not the case that all christians live in the US. Christians are living in the nations worldwide not just the US.

You also get some believers who think britian is the new israel theres a whole sect that believe in british israelism but since the US rebelled from the Brits I wonder if those two camps even talk to each other.

The application is actually in the words of Jesus that makes the Bible come alive for us. I think certainly all of us can learn from Israels dealings with God its written down for our learning after all. But its not a good idea to then say well the US is now Gods chosen people. And then imply that people in other countries arent.