History From An Arab Point of View

[Katia]

Being from America, I was not aware how one sided and conceited American History is. In my seven years of deep emersion in Arab Muslim Culture, I learned that they have their own take on history.

 

[Gideon300]

Being from America, I was not aware how one sided and conceited American History is. In my seven years of deep emersion in Arab Muslim Culture, I learned that they have their own take on history.

As an observer, I see that Americans generally know little about the rest of the world. That is changing to some degree. It's not just history. It's just about everything. That's why Australia makes movies like Crocodile Dundee. It's about the only way we can get Americans to realise that Austria and Australia are not the same place.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Being from America, I was not aware how one sided and conceited American History is. In my seven years of deep emersion in Arab Muslim Culture, I learned that they have their own take on history.

One sided? How? We have libraries filled with different authors who share their perspective, we have Amazon where you can find almost any book by any author you want on history.

It isn't a surprise that Arab Muslims would have a different view on history. Every country has a unique view. Unfortunately many countries do not support libraries or companies like Amazon that allows any book to be sold. Many countries censor material that goes against the approved narrative. America is slowly getting to that point of book burnings where so far a few online books have been cancelled or the pulling of books off shelves have occurred.

Now I will say US public and college education has for decades started to lean towards a anti American view of history.

Thankfully we still have the access to view counter sources, archeology, anthropology, sociology, original writings, past historians, eye witness accounts, and textual criticism to determine fact from fiction.

A view of history should only be in the realm of facts or unknown (theory).

Never take something as solid until you get the facts. Do your own research.

 

[Magenta]

Never take something as solid until you get the facts. Do your own research.

OP does not like dealing with facts, and has also said there are no current authoritative sources for history. So how she got this supposed education on the Arab Muslim Culture/their own take on history is surely suspect, as well as being, according to her own words, unauthoritative. That should make it invalid, but of course what it really means is she can view herself as an authority of/on those times, but if you disagree with her, or post facts she does not like, you are dismissed.

No one living today can speak with authority about anything that happened in the 7th Century AD.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

OP does not like dealing with facts, and has also said there are no current authoritative sources for history. So how she got this supposed education on the Arab Muslim Culture/their own take on history is surely suspect, as well as being, according to her own words, unauthoritative. That should make it invalid, but of course what it really means is she can view herself as an authority of/on those times, but if you disagree with her, or post facts she does not like, you are dismissed.

Well despite 7th century AD. evidence in archeology we have the Bible as the ultimate authority that speaks on mankind's history.

If we can not believe God's Word as authoritative then we are not true believers.

 

[DeanM]

No problem. History is being rewritten as we speak/type.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

And their take isn't one sided or conceited, right?

 

[hellopeople]

I agree one should do their own research to study themselves approved to my understanding Arabia was rich in knowledge they went on a conquest from their native land which lead them to cross the sea into Spain that's why some Spanish buildings and places are similar to Arabia if the Spanish where more advanced post dating the Arabians I could be on to something it was only secondary research maybe a little bit of primary.

 

[Gideon300]

I agree one should do their own research to study themselves approved to my understanding Arabia was rich in knowledge they went on a conquest from their native land which lead them to cross the sea into Spain that's why some Spanish buildings and places are similar to Arabia if the Spanish where more advanced post dating the Arabians I could be on to something it was only secondary research maybe a little bit of primary.

Your post would be easier to understand if you used punctuation. It avoids confusion. For example my favourite things are eating pizza children and cats.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Being from America, I was not aware how one sided and conceited American History is. In my seven years of deep emersion in Arab Muslim Culture, I learned that they have their own take on history.

There is no doubt that the Muslim world made many valuable contributions to science and mathematics and other areas. Had the radical Islamists not been incited to violence by the likes of Ayatollah Khomeini and others, Islam could have continued to exist side-by-side with the rest of the world. However, the goal of the Islamists now is worldwide domination as well as the slaughter of the "infidels" and "crusaders". The Arab world has also vowed to destroy Israel totally, and now Israel plans to destroy Iran because of stupid Leftist American policies which are anti-Israel and pro-Iran.

 

[Mission21]

To: OP/Katia
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Christian & Muslim conflict has been going on..
- From the 7th century.
- It is a historical fact.
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'Interpretation of history' is a different issue.
- Debates/arguments..on many historical events/facts..still going on.
- Different point of views/perspectives..

 

[Nehemiah6]

Christian & Muslim conflict has been going on.

The Koran and Islam were created to be in conflict with Christianity, Christians, and the Gospel. All you have to do is examine the pages of the Koran. It was an all-out attack on the Gospel.

 

[Mission21]

The Koran and Islam were created to be in conflict with Christianity, Christians, and the Gospel. All you have to do is examine the pages of the Koran. It was an all-out attack on the Gospel.

I was in Nigeria...30 years ago.
- Mission trip.
- For outreach & training.
I learned about..'Christian-Muslim conflict' there.
- Still going on..in Nigeria.
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Learning..the basics of Islam & 'Christian-Muslim conflict history' can be helpful.
- understanding..what is going on,
- in many countries (with Islam/Muslim issue).

 

[Magenta]

Had the radical Islamists not been incited to violence by the likes of Ayatollah Khomeini
and others, Islam could have continued to exist side-by-side with the rest of the world.

The Koran and Islam were created to be in conflict with Christianity, Christians, and the Gospel.
All you have to do is examine the pages of the Koran. It was an all-out attack on the Gospel.

These two statements seem to contradict each other.

 

[Nehemiah6]

These two statements seem to contradict each other.

There was a time about 70-80 years ago when Muslims were content to co-exist with other religions peacefully, and there was no radicalization. After Khomeini in Iran came on the scene things changed. But had the Shah of Iran established a genuine democratic monarchy, and focused on helping his people, the ayatollahs could not have incited violence against the "infidels" and rebellion against the Shah.

Following that there was a surge in Wahaabism (radical Islam) in Saudi Arabia. Then Bin Laden began his campaign, followed by Al Qaeda and ISIS (and many other groups of radicals). At the same time America had no business arming the Mujahedin against Russia in Afghanistan. Those same Mujahedin turned against America. America also had no business going into Afghanistan and Iraq. That is what triggered a huge anti-American movement. But radical Islam is taught in the Koran, and now many Muslims are Islamists, and support the idea of an Islamic Caliphate worldwide. Christians and Jews are "infidels" according to the Koran.

 

[Katia]

There was a time about 70-80 years ago when Muslims were content to co-exist with other religions peacefully, and there was no radicalization. After Khomeini in Iran came on the scene things changed. But had the Shah of Iran established a genuine democratic monarchy, and focused on helping his people, the ayatollahs could not have incited violence against the "infidels" and rebellion against the Shah.

Following that there was a surge in Wahaabism (radical Islam) in Saudi Arabia. Then Bin Laden began his campaign, followed by Al Qaeda and ISIS (and many other groups of radicals). At the same time America had no business arming the Mujahedin against Russia in Afghanistan. Those same Mujahedin turned against America. America also had no business going into Afghanistan and Iraq. That is what triggered a huge anti-American movement. But radical Islam is taught in the Koran, and now many Muslims are Islamists, and support the idea of an Islamic Caliphate worldwide. Christians and Jews are "infidels" according to the Koran.

Iran = Shia, Saudi Arabia =Sunni, um mostly. IMHO the West has generally treated the oil rich countries badly. Though I live in America, I do not see our pseudo democracy, or Oligarchy as the best. We live in a fallen world where we constantly turn to evil.

 

[Deus_Vult]

Do you see my picture? That's Don Pelayo, the christian spanish-asturian warrior who leaded the expulsion of all the moors from Spain, doing the RECONQUISTA, and expulsing all the muslims back to africa. We have to do the same as soon as possible... 722, 1492, 1936... A crusade against communists, muslims, marxists, satanists, pharisees and all those revolutionaries, enemies of christian civilization.

 

[soberxp]

Do you see my picture? That's Don Pelayo, the christian spanish-asturian warrior who leaded the expulsion of all the moors from Spain, doing the RECONQUISTA, and expulsing all the muslims back to africa. We have to do the same as soon as possible... 722, 1492, 1936... A crusade against communists, muslims, marxists, satanists, pharisees and all those revolutionaries, enemies of christian civilization.

Love your enemy, that is what Bible teach.
Ask yourself are you a Christian?

 

[Katia]

Do you see my picture? That's Don Pelayo, the christian spanish-asturian warrior who leaded the expulsion of all the moors from Spain, doing the RECONQUISTA, and expulsing all the muslims back to africa. We have to do the same as soon as possible... 722, 1492, 1936... A crusade against communists, muslims, marxists, satanists, pharisees and all those revolutionaries, enemies of christian civilization.

Always wanting more violence... Sad

 

[Egyw0lf]

The Koran and Islam were created to be in conflict with Christianity, Christians, and the Gospel. All you have to do is examine the pages of the Koran. It was an all-out attack on the Gospel.

I am an Egyptian and fully agreed with this opinion