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I posted this message a few times in the past because it was one of the first understandings he gave me about 40 years ago while researching time from creation.

Feeding of the 4 & 5 Thousand--Miracle of Multiplication

Lord does nothing without foretelling his servants the future. Take Malachi 4:2 for example.
But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings ( or rays ). You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall (grave).

I see this scripture as being meant for the Hebrews and telling of a future resurrection. On that Passover weekend I also see a time element being spoken. Notice the word sun and not son. Not an error in translation; Lord was saying the sun being made on the fourth day, predicted his entry and coming into Jerusalem on that Passover after 4000 years, also the revolution of the year.

Parables and stories are there to alert us things which are shortly coming to pass and for me none is greater than the story of the feeding of the 4 and 5 thousand.

“Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened? 18 Having eyes do you not see, and having ears do you not hear? And do you not remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” They said to him, “Twelve.” 20 “And the seven for the four thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” And they said to him, “Seven.”

21 And he said to them, “Do you not yet understand?” Mark 8



What a question? Do you not understand? Well, first the baskets. From the Greek manuscripts we see a portent concering the baskets. The basket used to feed the 5000 was a kophino, and the basket used to feed the 4000 was a spuris. This holds true in all 4 gospels whenever the baskets are mentioned, as well in the book of Acts. The kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish because when the people followed Jesus across Lake Galilie he was asked questions only a jew was asked, such as, " Our ancestors ate manna in the wilderness

As for the basket used to feed the 4000, Jesus had left the area of Tyre and Sidon in Lebanon and approached the area of Decapolis. Decapolis was a group of ten cities given to the Greeks for their assistance during the times of conquering the territory. When Apostle Paul was fleeing Damascus, he was let down over the wall in a spuris basket---A Gentile basket in a Gentile city. So we can easily say the kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish and the spuris basket jused to feed the 4000 was Gentile. Strongs Concordance for kophino is #2894 and for spuris #4711.

Now to the feeding of the 4 & 5 thousand. If the Lord had wanted,He could have made it come out to the very crumb as to what was needed to feed the multitude. The miracle was the multiplication of food and we will feed them just as Jesus did! The jews were fed with 5 loaves and 2 fish, and the gentiles with 7 loaves and a few (2) fish.
Feeding of the 5000
5 loaves times 2 fish = 10
5000 divided by 10 = 500 ( Lord divided it among the 5000)
500 times 12 baskets left over = 6000 ( Blessings multiplied)
6000 years

For in so many days the world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. Irenaeus, taught by Polycarp a hearer of Apostle John

Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, He finished in six days. This implies that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifies, saying, Behold, today will be as a thousand years. Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. And He rested on the seventh day. This means: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the-sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day. Barnabas--named an apostle in Acts 14

Feeding of the 4000
7 loaves times 2 fish = 14
4000 divided by 14 = 285.7143
Blessing left over are multiplied
7 baskets left over times 285.7143 =2000
2000 years

This is the number of years till his return. This time is called--The time of the gentiles, all are gentile christians in this story of the 4000..
 
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I posted this message a few times in the past because it was one of the first understandings he gave me about 40 years ago while researching time from creation.

Feeding of the 4 & 5 Thousand--Miracle of Multiplication

Lord does nothing without foretelling his servants the future. Take Malachi 4:2 for example.
But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings ( or rays ). You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall (grave).

I see this scripture as being meant for the Hebrews and telling of a future resurrection. On that Passover weekend I also see a time element being spoken. Notice the word sun and not son. Not an error in translation; Lord was saying the sun being made on the fourth day, predicted his entry and coming into Jerusalem on that Passover after 4000 years, also the revolution of the year.

Parables and stories are there to alert us things which are shortly coming to pass and for me none is greater than the story of the feeding of the 4 and 5 thousand.

“Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened? 18 Having eyes do you not see, and having ears do you not hear? And do you not remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” They said to him, “Twelve.” 20 “And the seven for the four thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” And they said to him, “Seven.”

21 And he said to them, “Do you not yet understand?” Mark 8



What a question? Do you not understand? Well, first the baskets. From the Greek manuscripts we see a portent concering the baskets. The basket used to feed the 5000 was a kophino, and the basket used to feed the 4000 was a spuris. This holds true in all 4 gospels whenever the baskets are mentioned, as well in the book of Acts. The kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish because when the people followed Jesus across Lake Galilie he was asked questions only a jew was asked, such as, " Our ancestors ate manna in the wilderness

As for the basket used to feed the 4000, Jesus had left the area of Tyre and Sidon in Lebanon and approached the area of Decapolis. Decapolis was a group of ten cities given to the Greeks for their assistance during the times of conquering the territory. When Apostle Paul was fleeing Damascus, he was let down over the wall in a spuris basket---A Gentile basket in a Gentile city. So we can easily say the kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish and the spuris basket jused to feed the 4000 was Gentile. Strongs Concordance for kophino is #2894 and for spuris #4711.

Now to the feeding of the 4 & 5 thousand. If the Lord had wanted,He could have made it come out to the very crumb as to what was needed to feed the multitude. The miracle was the multiplication of food and we will feed them just as Jesus did! The jews were fed with 5 loaves and 2 fish, and the gentiles with 7 loaves and a few (2) fish.
Feeding of the 5000
5 loaves times 2 fish = 10
5000 divided by 10 = 500 ( Lord divided it among the 5000)
500 times 12 baskets left over = 6000 ( Blessings multiplied)
6000 years

For in so many days the world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. Irenaeus, taught by Polycarp a hearer of Apostle John

Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, He finished in six days. This implies that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifies, saying, Behold, today will be as a thousand years. Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. And He rested on the seventh day. This means: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the-sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day. Barnabas--named an apostle in Acts 14

Feeding of the 4000
7 loaves times 2 fish = 14
4000 divided by 14 = 285.7143
Blessing left over are multiplied
7 baskets left over times 285.7143 =2000
2000 years

This is the number of years till his return. This time is called--The time of the gentiles, all are gentile christians in this story of the 4000..
So since this year is 2025 how does this add into the formula?
 
So since this year is 2025 how does this add into the formula?
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Unless you have studied time from creation or understand the parables the story would not mean much. Each parable and many scriptures can paint the picture.

The Transfiguration is one of them.

Matthew 17:17 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”
5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”

Another story of the Resurrection/Rapture

After 6 days=after 6000 years

Moses represents the dead

Elijah represents the Living

Cloud---meeting the Lord in the clouds
 
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Do you know why there was no Rapture of the Living when a Resurrection took place the weekend our Lord Yeshua/Jesus was crucified??
 
No I don't, why was that?
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Blain, you are a brave soul

Because if a Rapture had taken place that Passover weekend no believers in Christ would have been left behind to teach the gospel message including the Apostles.

This is why the next Resurrection includes the Rapture. End of being saved by Grace by Faith ends.
 
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Blain, you are a brave soul

Because if a Rapture had taken place that Passover weekend no believers in Christ would have been left behind to teach the gospel message including the Apostles.

This is why the next Resurrection includes the Rapture. End of being saved by Grace by Faith ends.
That makes sense, and everyone is really hoping it will be this year but if it doesn't I certainly cannot see the tribulation to far off.
 
No Resurrection in very near future but the Tribulation to start next month IMO
Yes next month is something I am looking to as well, the question is how will it begin? What will trigger the tribulation?
 
Yes next month is something I am looking to as well, the question is how will it begin? What will trigger the tribulation?
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Pure speculation as how it comes about. Watch the United Nations next month concerning Israel/ The timing would be on the New Moon on the Feast of Trumpets Sept 23
 
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Why would the great tribulation start next month? What does the great tribulation mean to you? Is it 7 years to you, or only the latter 3-1/2 years?

Why would the Tribulation start next month?

The 70weeks of Daniel would be a good start.

24 “Seventy weeks are decreed concerning your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.[c] 25 Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. 26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off, and shall have nothing; and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its[ end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war; desolations are decreed.

It is my desire to show the 7 weeks and 62 weeks are thousands of years apart, If the Lord wanted us to add the 7 and 62 weeks together, He would have designated 69 weeks which he didn't. Number of weeks could be weeks of years but not always. Being cut-off does not mean killed for there is a word for that.

The prophecy deals with the building of Jerusalem to the coming of the anointed one, (Yeshua/Jesus)

First Coming 7 weeks

A Passover was coming and the Lord got into a discussion with some Pharisees and they said --it has taken us 46 years to build this temple.

46 years and 3 years of ministry makes 7 weeks or 49 years, First Resurrection on Passover weekend
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62 weeks

Coming Resurrection

From the building of Jerusalem

1967- returned after the six day war

So what else could the 62 weeks represent meaning 7

I believe it is 62 Passover weeks

1967 plus 62 = 2029 Year of the Timing of the Resurrection/Rapture
Confirmation is needed
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Dan 12:12 Blessed is he who waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five days

This is the number of days in the Tribulation ---1335 days till the coming of the Lord

I said the Tribulation would begin Sept. 23. 2025 on the feast of Trumpets, and if you add 1335 days it will take you to Pentecost in the year 2029

add 1335 days and this is 75 days after the antichrist takes his seat in the Temple of God in the middle of the 7---1260 days

Corresponds to Rev 14:14 at the reaping of the earth when the Lord s seen in the clouds
 
The 70weeks of Daniel would be a good start.

24 “Seventy weeks are decreed concerning your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.[c] 25 Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. 26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off, and shall have nothing; and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its[ end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war; desolations are decreed.

It is my desire to show the 7 weeks and 62 weeks are thousands of years apart, If the Lord wanted us to add the 7 and 62 weeks together, He would have designated 69 weeks which he didn't. Number of weeks could be weeks of years but not always. Being cut-off does not mean killed for there is a word for that.

The prophecy deals with the building of Jerusalem to the coming of the anointed one, (Yeshua/Jesus)

First Coming 7 weeks

A Passover was coming and the Lord got into a discussion with some Pharisees and they said --it has taken us 46 years to build this temple.

46 years and 3 years of ministry makes 7 weeks or 49 years, First Resurrection on Passover weekend
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62 weeks

Coming Resurrection

From the building of Jerusalem

1967- returned after the six day war

So what else could the 62 weeks represent meaning 7

I believe it is 62 Passover weeks

1967 plus 62 = 2029 Year of the Timing of the Resurrection/Rapture
Confirmation is needed
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Dan 12:12 Blessed is he who waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five days

This is the number of days in the Tribulation ---1335 days till the coming of the Lord

I said the Tribulation would begin Sept. 23. 2025 on the feast of Trumpets, and if you add 1335 days it will take you to Pentecost in the year 2029

add 1335 days and this is 75 days after the antichrist takes his seat in the Temple of God in the middle of the 7---1260 days

Corresponds to Rev 14:14 at the reaping of the earth when the Lord s seen in the clouds


The great tribulation also has the antichrist. So we're going to finally see who he is next month?


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The great tribulation also has the antichrist. So we're going to finally see who he is next month?

Good question: Here is what I see:

He will probably be working to start with at the direction of the United Nations (speculation ). The seven years is the key. He will not come roaring in as the antichrist but a protector bringing peace and security with powerful backing. The Kingdom of the antichrist wont be known till the middle of the seven and the next 42 months.( Dan 12:7 ) He will be a Jew from the tribe of Dan coming from the old nation of Assyria. He will appear as a loving Messiah for about 3 years before taking his seat in temple.

The two witnesses should be there within30 days of the covenant being fulfilled.

Things will go downhill quickly in the world after the covenant begins. The seal judgements will be about 30 days in duration and we see peace is taken from the earth by opening of 2nd seal. Trumpet judgements about five months in duration.

The events will follow in a orderly fashion with Seals first, Trumpets, next, then the Bowl judgements
 
Good question: Here is what I see:

He will probably be working to start with at the direction of the United Nations (speculation ). The seven years is the key. He will not come roaring in as the antichrist but a protector bringing peace and security with powerful backing. The Kingdom of the antichrist wont be known till the middle of the seven and the next 42 months.( Dan 12:7 ) He will be a Jew from the tribe of Dan coming from the old nation of Assyria. He will appear as a loving Messiah for about 3 years before taking his seat in temple.

The two witnesses should be there within30 days of the covenant being fulfilled.

Things will go downhill quickly in the world after the covenant begins. The seal judgements will be about 30 days in duration and we see peace is taken from the earth by opening of 2nd seal. Trumpet judgements about five months in duration.

The events will follow in a orderly fashion with Seals first, Trumpets, next, then the Bowl judgements


So when do you see the rapture happening?

Pre-tribbers are expecting Jesus to collect us all before next month's great tribulation begins.


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So when do you see the rapture happening?

Pre-tribbers are expecting Jesus to collect us all before next month's great tribulation begins.

A great disappointment awaits the pre-tribers and pre-wrath.

Just as the nation of Israel began on Passover,there was a resurrection on Passover weekend. Same with the church, Began on Pentecost and will end on Pentecost.

The timing in scriptures is Rev 14:14 between the last Trump and the Bowl judgements. This is also how he shorten the days

14 Then I looked, and lo, a white cloud, and seated on the cloud one like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head, and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, calling with a loud voice to him who sat upon the cloud, “Put in your sickle, and reap, for the hour to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is fully ripe.” 16 So he who sat upon the cloud swung his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

**** Notice the Lord sitting on the clouds
 
A great disappointment awaits the pre-tribers and pre-wrath.

Just as the nation of Israel began on Passover,there was a resurrection on Passover weekend. Same with the church, Began on Pentecost and will end on Pentecost.

The timing in scriptures is Rev 14:14 between the last Trump and the Bowl judgements. This is also how he shorten the days

14 Then I looked, and lo, a white cloud, and seated on the cloud one like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head, and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, calling with a loud voice to him who sat upon the cloud, “Put in your sickle, and reap, for the hour to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is fully ripe.” 16 So he who sat upon the cloud swung his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

**** Notice the Lord sitting on the clouds


I agree with you on the red highlighted sentence.

I'm not sure if Jesus returns on a Pentacost though. I think God just wants us to count the days from when the antichrist is revealed.

I'll have died already by that time and home with Him, which is why I don't pay too much attention to when the rapture occurs, because I will be already with Him.


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