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Tall_Timbers
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I do not place my eternal salvation in the hands of any concordance.. I do not believe there is an infallible inspired gospel concordance of strongs for example.. People who do entrust their eternal salvation in strongs or some other concordance only end up adding words to and taking away words from the Word of God...
Tall_Timbers
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Don't think I've ever met anyone who places their eternal salvation in the hands of any concordance (which happens to be a good study aid).
I simply see a concordance as a reference aid when reading/studying the Bible. I always choose Bibles that have footnotes/various additional references, so I wanted a concordance as an extension of that kind of information.
I actually have 3:
1. One in form of a book, which I bought at as young adult, and still have many years later.
2. The two others are in the form of people: @Lynx and @cinder. I always call them my human concordances.
I keep in touch with a small group from CC, some currently here and some who are no longer on the forum. We have regular, almost daily small, private chats about what we are studying and reading.
I can usually remember certain key words or phrases, but not the specific references. So I'm always asking things like, "Hey guys, I'm thinking of a passage that about the guy whom the Bible says could run like a gazelle..."
Lynx and Cinder can both answer with the specific passage references ten times faster than I can look it up in my paper concordance -- and, if one or both are present in the chat -- they answer even faster than it would take for me to Google (type) my question.
Talking about adding to and taking away from... Why did you add all that to a simple question about a reference tool?
Actually I had to Google that one. And Google told me it was Asahel.
I have one but I never use it anymore. Bible app on my phone has taken its place.
On the other hand, it is still sitting there if I need it and it doesn't require any battery power. I don't have to charge it up to use it. So if my phone tanks, it's still there.
There's actually a story behind me always asking about that particular reference.
Years ago, I'm talking around 2009 or so when CC had live chats and I was brand-new, we were playing Bible Trivia one night and that particular question came up.
The mod was about to give me a point because I answered first, BUT, ALL I could remember was that his name started with an "A."
I also seem to always remember that the second syllable has "sa" sound in it but I always want to add letters... Like "Ahiza-something-something" and can never remember how the name goes after that. You'd think it would be easy as pie, especially since I have a strong memory attached to it, but no.
To this day, I (obviously) still hit a blank when I try to think of the poor guy's full name.
Fortunately I don't think he cares much about being forgotten. He is recorded for all time in the Bible as being very fast. That's more than I'll ever get.
Tall_Timbers
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I've rarely referred to my Strong's, but often use cyclopedic indexes that are in two of my Bibles.
They call it that because it's heavy. If you try to lug it around you will get tired real fast.
Yes, I have an exhaustive one, but it is stored a few hundred miles away at the moment. I miss it. I have a phone app for searching the Bible, and there is of course the internet, but none of those give all the ways a word was translated, which is an important tool for spotting translational bias and breadth of meaning.
A concordance is a really big book that lists every word in the Bible and every place that word is found.
If you wanted to find a verse, and you knew that verse had the word "heavy" in it, you could look up the word "heavy" and the concordance would list all the verses in the Bible that have that word. It will have a snippet of the verse around the word, to help pinpoint the verse you are looking for before you look up every single verse that has that word.
*scratching head*
This is still confusing to me. Is this about translations then? Or is it about finding out what the root of the word means in the culture where it came from?
Nope. It's just about finding a verse when you don't know exactly where it is.
I know there's a verse somewhere that talks about avoiding people who sow contention or dissension among the brethren, but I can't remember exactly where it is...
(goes to look up contention and dissension...)
See this was what we used before we had Google and bible apps. If you couldn't find that verse you were looking for, you either waited until next February when it came around in your normal Bible reading, asked a friend who had a mind like a steel trap or looked it up in a concordance.
Thank you!
So that's what 'concordance" means then? I learned a new word.
It means "Do you have a search engine?"
Before the Internet this question could have been phrased as:
- Do you go to the library?
-Yes, i do go to the library.
'The Library' in this case is not just a place of books with knowledge and information but could also be a person or a group of people with knowledge in their minds.
Okay, thank you Lynx.
- Do you go to the library?
-Yes, i do go to the library.
'The Library' in this case is not just a place of books with knowledge and information but could also be a person or a group of people with knowledge in their minds.
Okay, thank you Lynx.