I was hoping for a succint explanation of who the beast(s) are pictured in Revelation.
I was hoping for a succint explanation of who the beast(s) are pictured in Revelation.
I was hoping for a succint explanation of who the beast(s) are pictured in Revelation.
I was hoping for a succint explanation of who the beast(s) are pictured in Revelation.
Did you know the book of Daniel is a close companion as other prophecy in many ways with the book of revelation ?
“Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear....
After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.”
Daniel 7:2-7
Daniel sees seven heads on four beasts one as a leopard with four heads one as a bear , one as a lion and then sees the final beast with ten horns seven heads and ten horns upon beasts rising from the sea .
“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.”
Revelation 13:1-3 KJV
when Daniel sees them it’s the beginning of the vision the first head ( Nebucahdnezzar ) had just been in power it’s the start of the Visio.
“And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.”
Daniel 12:6-7
when John sees the vision it’s during the reign of the sixth king ( Nero or Titus ) and the seventh is about to rise up
So the seven headed beast John sees consists of five kings who reigned in the past over Jerusalem beginning with Babylon and in johns day was Rome
“And there are seven kings: five are fallen,
and one is,
and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”
Revelation 17:10 KJV
so johns reference to how long in his vision is near the end of its unfolding concerning the seven heads
“And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:”
Revelation 10:5-6 KJV
But then there’s the other beast whomis the head that appears dead , and yet lives he is the eighth king that we know as the anti christ and has ten nations who will serve him before three are taken away but he is going to arise in the very end Before Christs return
“And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.”
Revelation 17:11-14 KJV
the seven headed beast is about Israel’s desolation beginning with Babylon through the Roman Empire and thier harsh rule over Jerusalem and the Jewish people , but this is going to happen worldwide in the end
From my studies, the Beasts of Revelation are...
Dragon (spiritually satan):
- Revelation 12
- Pagan Roman Empire
- Bears the image of "dragon" on their banner
- After Christ ascends, Rome pursues and persecutes Jews with "great wrath"
- Like a flood, Roman armies hunted Jews and destroyed Jerusalem
- The earth helped the Jews by warring with Roman forces
- Spirit of hatred spreads against anyone (Jew or Gentile) who keeps the commandments & has faith in the Messiah; practicing the faith of the Jews is outlawed.
Beast of the Sea:
- Revelation 13
- Roman emperor gives world-leading authority to Papacy
- (Papal) Holy Roman Empire is formed
- The known world sees Pope as "god on earth" and "god in the flesh"
- Pope installs kings in different lands, outlaws ownership of the bible and changes biblical laws and holidays
- Persecutes Jews & gentile believers of original faith from 538 AD to 1798 AD (1260 years) until Papacy ended.
- Authorized the world to take captive (i.e. enslave) any heretics, leading to worldwide slavery of humans
- Authorized the world to torture and kill heretics
- Was mortally wounded when Papacy ended in 1798
- Was Healed when Papacy was restored in 1929 (but has never reattained world-leading power)
Beast of the Earth:
- Revelation 13
- United States of America, created in a wilderness land in 1776, appears innocent & righteous but official policies and rhetoric are not biblical
- State of Israel, created in a wilderness land in 1948, appears innocent & righteous but official policies and rhetoric are not biblical
- Two horns of power. a Horn represents a kingdom or government in the bible. Two horns of the beast are the USA & Israel
- Assumed world-leading power, the same the Papacy lost
- USA Causes world to celebrate Papacy and follow its policies (Sunday sabbath, gregorian calendar, holidays established by Catholicism)
- Great wonders - firepower (atomic bomb), airplanes, science & technology, medicines come from USA or Israel
- Encourages those on the earth to "copy" the American image (which is someone who obeys Pope's laws).
- Developed the ability to animate (i.e. give life) to the picture (i.e. image) that it can speak; "motion pictures" to project any "image" (idea) to the audience that it wants (Hollywood) so that it can now propagandize through mainstream media and make anyone an "enemy" of the USA or Israel.
- Causes all to work for (hand) or believe in (forehead) "the mark" or the name of the beast (USA & Israel) or the number, just to commence business.
- The number is a family name, turned into an image = Rothschild = Red Shield (a 6 point, 6 sided, 6 triangle emblem) representing the banking family and originators of the world's Fractional Reserve banking system that NO ONE in the world can do business (i.e. buy a& sell) without. Their family image was adopted as the flag of the State of Israel.
I think the beasts refer to men who receive dominion over the earth such as kings like nebucadnezzar he had a dream just before God changes him and made him dwell As a wild beast for seven years
and it suggests that men go have the basest nature re sometimes given a position of power to carry forth Gods judgements pertaining to wrath. When man is given dominion we become like beasts without judgement
Nebucadnezzar was given dominion over all the earth men later saw this dream and Daniel interpreted it for him
“Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
...It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;
This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the most High, which is come upon my lord the king: That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.”
Daniel 4:16-17, 22-
This actually happened to nebucadnezzar king of Babylon in the beginning of the Babylonian exile of the Jews. And then after Babylon’s rule came the media Persia rule , then Greece later which split and became the Roman Empire which was near the end of this succession of dominion over Jerusalem it was never free from 600 bc and then in Jesus day was romes dominion over them the endings of the vision of the seven headed beast that ruled over the ancient world
but in the end another will be given dominion and ten nations with him he will be a re appearing of one of the seven before one of those nations will rise again
I was hoping for a succint explanation of who the beast(s) are pictured in Revelation.
Hmmmmm
Need to digest this
Why 1929 and not 1801?
Right 4 beast with seven heads ,Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece Rome - only 4 not 5 though
Ya. The basest of men - How would we say that now?
Complete scumbags? Is that what is meant here?
I was hoping for a succint explanation of who the beast(s) are pictured in Revelation.
- Bears the image of "dragon" on their bannerFrom my studies, the Beasts of Revelation are...
Dragon (spiritually satan):
- Revelation 12
- Pagan Roman Empire
- Bears the image of "dragon" on their banner
- After Christ ascends, Rome pursues and persecutes Jews with "great wrath"
- Like a flood, Roman armies hunted Jews and destroyed Jerusalem
- The earth helped the Jews by warring with Roman forces
- Spirit of hatred spreads against anyone (Jew or Gentile) who keeps the commandments & has faith in the Messiah; practicing the faith of the Jews is outlawed.
Beast of the Sea:
- Revelation 13
- Roman emperor gives world-leading authority to Papacy
- (Papal) Holy Roman Empire is formed
- The known world sees Pope as "god on earth" and "god in the flesh"
- Pope installs kings in different lands, outlaws ownership of the bible and changes biblical laws and holidays
- Persecutes Jews & gentile believers of original faith from 538 AD to 1798 AD (1260 years) until Papacy ended.
- Authorized the world to take captive (i.e. enslave) any heretics, leading to worldwide slavery of humans
- Authorized the world to torture and kill heretics
- Was mortally wounded when Papacy ended in 1798
- Was Healed when Papacy was restored in 1929 (but has never reattained world-leading power)
Beast of the Earth:
- Revelation 13
- United States of America, created in a wilderness land in 1776, appears innocent & righteous but official policies and rhetoric are not biblical
- State of Israel, created in a wilderness land in 1948, appears innocent & righteous but official policies and rhetoric are not biblical
- Two horns of power. a Horn represents a kingdom or government in the bible. Two horns of the beast are the USA & Israel
- Assumed world-leading power, the same the Papacy lost
- USA Causes world to celebrate Papacy and follow its policies (Sunday sabbath, gregorian calendar, holidays established by Catholicism)
- Great wonders - firepower (atomic bomb), airplanes, science & technology, medicines come from USA or Israel
- Encourages those on the earth to "copy" the American image (which is someone who obeys Pope's laws).
- Developed the ability to animate (i.e. give life) to the picture (i.e. image) that it can speak; "motion pictures" to project any "image" (idea) to the audience that it wants (Hollywood) so that it can now propagandize through mainstream media and make anyone an "enemy" of the USA or Israel.
- Causes all to work for (hand) or believe in (forehead) "the mark" or the name of the beast (USA & Israel) or the number, just to commence business.
- The number is a family name, turned into an image = Rothschild = Red Shield (a 6 point, 6 sided, 6 triangle emblem) representing the banking family and originators of the world's Fractional Reserve banking system that NO ONE in the world can do business (i.e. buy a& sell) without. Their family image was adopted as the flag of the State of Israel.
- Bears the image of "dragon" on their banner
Could you show this?


You could do a teaching on Revelation - I would follow along with great interest.
I wouldn't mind sharing my understanding of Revelation in a similar way OldHermit did. What's interesting is I must've posted a lot of it already, here and there, and would probably only need to copy those posts. I roughly follow a historicist view of eschatology (though not exactly), as history seems to confirm multiple events predicted.
I believe that the Almighty does nothing unless He first reveals it to His servants (Amos 3:7). I also believe that the Almighty is sovereign in the affairs of man, making nations rise and fall at His will (Job 12:23). Putting these together, it must be the case that the last approx. 2000 years have been given to us in the pages of Revelation and elsewhere.
Using "relative" terms, I can say that I'm most secure about the seals, relatively secure about the trumpets, and less secure about the bowls/vials (as we approach the present day in Revelation's timeline). I believe we're currently in the bowl/vial judgments.
I wouldn't mind sharing my understanding of Revelation in a similar way OldHermit did. What's interesting is I must've posted a lot of it already, here and there, and would probably only need to copy those posts. I roughly follow a historicist view of eschatology (though not exactly), as history seems to confirm multiple events predicted.
I believe that the Almighty does nothing unless He first reveals it to His servants (Amos 3:7). I also believe that the Almighty is sovereign in the affairs of man, making nations rise and fall at His will (Job 12:23). Putting these together, it must be the case that the last approx. 2000 years have been given to us in the pages of Revelation and elsewhere.
Using "relative" terms, I can say that I'm most secure about the seals, relatively secure about the trumpets, and less secure about the bowls/vials (as we approach the present day in Revelation's timeline). I believe we're currently in the bowl/vial judgments.