Be Found Naked

[WebersHome]

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Paul wrote a curious comment in one of his letters to the Christians at
Corinth that goes like this:

"We know that if the earthly tent which is our house is torn down, we have a
building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For
indeed in this house we groan, longing to be clothed with our dwelling from
heaven; inasmuch as we, having put it on, shall not be found naked. For
indeed while we are in this tent, we groan, being burdened, because we do
not want to be unclothed, but to be clothed, in order that what is mortal
may be swallowed up by life." (2Cor 5:1-4)

How is it that the death of a Christian's body puts them at risk of being caught
in the open like a hermit crab without its shell?

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[Magenta]

Paul says we shall not be found naked. It is not Christians who are at risk of being found unclothed, for we have put on the righteousness of Christ.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Put thee on the lord Jesus Christ and the shame of thy nakedness shall not be revealed.

Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed [is] the one who is watching and who keeps his clothing, so that he does not walk around naked and they see his shamefulness! Revelation 16:15​

 

[dcontroversal]

Paul says we shall not be found naked. It is not Christians who are at risk of being found unclothed, for we have put on the righteousness of Christ.

Amen and I was immediately drawn to Adam and Eve...NAKED IN THE GARDEN after their sin and fall...THEY attempted to cover their shame and nakedness to no avail...it took God shedding blood and then coverning their shame and sin to restore fellowship...same is true of us...if we are not found clothed and covered by the shed blood and righteousness of Christ we will be found naked and in our sin....no matter how one tries....we cannot get away from our own feeble attempt and or complete trust into what Christ has done......man's works or Christ's work......!!

 

[Didymous]

I've always found it interesting how many times the Bible uses clothing to represent what we receive from God. The best example I can think of off hand is in Romans 13:14, in which Paul instructs us to put on the Lord Jesus Christ. That makes me think of the whole for of God: the gospel of peace; the belt of truth, the breastplate of righteousness, the helmet of salvation, the shield of faith, and the sword of the Spirit-which is the word of God.

 

[Zmouth]

So does the cloke of unawares cover them if they had not read that it is written that they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. (See John 15:22)

 

[garee]

Paul wrote a curious comment in one of his letters to the Christians at
Corinth that goes like this:

"We know that if the earthly tent which is our house is torn down, we have a
building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For
indeed in this house we groan, longing to be clothed with our dwelling from
heaven; inasmuch as we, having put it on, shall not be found naked. For
indeed while we are in this tent, we groan, being burdened, because we do
not want to be unclothed, but to be clothed, in order that what is mortal
may be swallowed up by life." (2Cor 5:1-4)

How is it that the death of a Christian's body puts them at risk of being caught
in the open like a hermit crab without its shell?

Just a theory one I have been thinking about.

While we do not know the appearance of mankind before God corrupted the first creation. Most likely on the third day death began to its work..... on the forth he turned on the time keepers switch that were previously created on day one giving light by day a partial by night. Up till that time the glory of the lord was the light.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.Genesis 1:14-19


They must have had some covering .I would think they glowed as did Moses face when in the presence of God glory hiding their private parts for procreation. Knowing His Spirit had left they looked for a temporal way to hide using the corrupted rudiments of this life.

In the new heavens and earth it would seem in our new incorruptible bodies they could be like that in the garden before the fall .Glowing in the presence of God to reflect his now hidden glory. Just as the moon reflects the light of the Sun

And I saw no temple therein: (a house not made with hands) for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.Revelation 21:22-23

 

[Zmouth]

I would say that being found without the invisible garment of with visible bows would be found naked, but the reason I say that is because that is what I hear in my unawares; being what one receives,the white stone, for overcoming the image of the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
2 Cor 4:18

Paul says we shall not be found naked. It is not Christians who are at risk of being found unclothed, for we have put on the righteousness of Christ.

I believe it one would listen to what the Holy Ghost said rather that what Paul wrote they might hear that it is telling those who received the white stone that if their mansion in heaven is clothed in the garment with bows that you shall not be found naked. (See 1 Thess 2:13)

For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 2 Cor 5

 

[garee]

I would say that being found without the invisible garment of with visible bows would be found naked, but the reason I say that is because that is what I hear in my unawares; being what one receives,the white stone, for overcoming the image of the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
2 Cor 4:18



I believe it one would listen to what the Holy Ghost said rather that what Paul wrote they might hear that it is telling those who received the white stone that if their mansion in heaven is clothed in the garment with bows that you shall not be found naked. (See 1 Thess 2:13)

For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 2 Cor 5

The apostate Jew crucified the Son of man because oftheir misplaced familiarity as the wrong kind of zeal for God. They thought because they were Jew outwardly according tothe flesh it made them born again Jewinwardly of the Spirit.

That kind of misperceived familiarity caused hatred for the Son of man and death.Helping us to remember not to take him for granted by becoming lukewarm.We must return to the hidden manna. (what is it? )It reveals the unseen spiritual things not seen the eternal and we must accept the fact that God’s thoughts arenot ours and neither are His ways as if he was a man as us to begin with


I believe we are given a beautiful picture of the chastevirgin bride of Christ, the church in aparable to represent the gospel using the prescription you offered in 1 Cor. 4:18.

The Sun and the moon to represent the righteousness by which we are clothed of the father and Son working together(the peace of God that surpasses all human understanding) as the Son reflects the unseen glory of the father. It’s the end of time no longer being subject to it, under our feet.

The twelvestars represent all born again believers. Twelve is used that way throughout thebook of Revelation to represent the unseen authority of God .

Revelation 12 King James Version (KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; awoman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head acrown of twelve stars:And she being with child cried, travailing inbirth, and pained to be delivered.

 

[WebersHome]

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I encounter people quite often on internet forums who sincerely believe that
human existence is entirely physical. But Paul speaks of the physical aspect
as merely a residence rather than an existence.

I have no clue what a disembodied human looks like; but I suspect from
passages like Heb 12:23 and 1Pet 3:19-20 that my eyes cannot see them
with any more ease than they can see radio waves.

But I also suspect, from Luke 16:19-31, that though our natural eyes are
unable to see disembodied humans; they themselves are somehow visible
to each other.
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[Deade]

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I encounter people quite often on internet forums who sincerely believe that
human existence is entirely physical. But Paul speaks of the physical aspect
as merely a residence rather than an existence.

I have no clue what a disembodied human looks like; but I suspect from
passages like Heb 12:23 and 1Pet 3:19-20 that my eyes cannot see them
with any more ease than they can see radio waves.

But I also suspect, from Luke 16:19-31, that though our natural eyes are
unable to see disembodied humans; they themselves are somehow visible to each other.

You bet they can. Does not our own version of guardian angels tell us they are unseen around us? Demons can see them. Sometimes God will let humans see them also. Here is an example:

2 Kings 6:15-17 "And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do? And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them. And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha."

I want to be like Elisha, believe without seeing!

 

[Zmouth]

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I encounter people quite often on internet forums who sincerely believe that
human existence is entirely physical. But Paul speaks of the physical aspect
as merely a residence rather than an existence.

Paul also thought that anything which could not be seen was eternal since he wrote that the things which are seen are temporal, so he looked to the things not seen which are eternal.

While the way a person defines a word would alter the meaning of what a person is trying to communicate if the definition is different that one intended for the word being used. And the use of temporal and eternal are a stumbling stone since the temporal (visible) the eternal is that which can not be seen seeing that only those things unseen (invisible) could approach unto that which can not be seen (eternal).

I have no clue what a disembodied human looks like; but I suspect from
passages like Heb 12:23 and 1Pet 3:19-20 that my eyes cannot see them
with any more ease than they can see radio waves.

Actually the seven Spirits of God can be known and observed, it is called the electromagnetic spectrum.

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Of course there are the other seven Spirits of God which can also be know and observed, it is called visible light.

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But I also suspect, from Luke 16:19-31, that though our natural eyes are
unable to see disembodied humans; they themselves are somehow visible
to each other.
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Have you heard why it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire?

 

[WebersHome]

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According to Matt 10:28, the body and the soul are perishable. However;
though the body is perishable by any means, the soul is perishable only by
divine means; i.e. the deaths of body and soul aren't necessarily
simultaneous, viz: the soul lives on until such a time as God decides to give
it either a thumb up or a thumb down.

Well; according to John 5:24, Christ's believing followers all have eternal
life; which is an indestructible kind of life. Therefore the souls of his
believing followers easily survive the death of their bodies.

What's the status of those eternal souls now? Well; for sure they are
disembodied due to the fact that none of the dead bodies of Christ's
believing followers have been resurrected yet because according to 1Thess
4:13-18, they will be resurrected all at once rather than individually.
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[mcubed]

I have nasty fat that hangs from having childern.... My husband said to me, best joke ever, if it was you in the garden instead of Eve, G-d would have not needed to make foreskins...lol I never laughed so much...

To the point of the thread my "clothing" is the glory and I do not want to be unclothed by sin. I pray I am not found nacked, I doubt my fat would be so "sexy".... The glory of G-d is sexy drawing people to Him when I let Him use me.... Yet my body has been a type I diabetic for 40 years; it mones and grans. It is ready for home!!!!

 

[crossnote]

Clothing received from God...first occurance..

Genesis 3:21 KJV
[21] Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

It was a better fit than their 'fig'urines, lol

Genesis 3:7 KJV
[7] And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Put thee on the lord Jesus Christ and the shame of thy nakedness shall not be revealed.

Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed [is] the one who is watching and who keeps his clothing, so that he does not walk around naked and they see his shamefulness! Revelation 16:15​

The wedding garment of righteous deeds in Revelation 19:8 is the same Greek word that is translated requirement of the law in Romans 8:4.

Let us rejoice and be glad and give him the glory, because the wedding celebration of the Lamb has come, and his bride has prepared herself. And it has been granted to her that she be dressed in bright, clean fine linen (for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints). Revelation 19:7-8​

For what [was] impossible for the law, in that it was weak through the flesh, God [did]. [By] sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the requirement of the law would be fulfilled in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:3-4​

This reveals what wedding clothes are this parable. The naked guest without anything to show for his faith is so shamed he can't speak.

But [when] the king came in to see the dinner guests, he saw a man there not dressed [in] wedding clothes. And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here, not having wedding clothes?’ But he could say nothing. Then the king said to the servants, ‘Tie him up hand and foot [and] throw him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth!’ Matthew 22:11-13​