Are we in the great tribulation

[Thunderrr-mental]

@selahsays the fundamental view of the the rapture has not started happening is based on prophecies that has not been fulfilled in the bible.

But some have that they claim has not not.

But the stubborn evangelist will not admit it 😊

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

This is for others who might be reading my replies.. No i do not deny that Jesus said that that The Word of God would bring division within families.. I have personally experienced this myself because i am a convert from the catholic religion to a Bible believing Christian and that divided me from my devout catholic dad and my staunchly atheist sister.. So i know what the symbolic meaning of the sword mentioned by Jesus means in real life....

(Matthew 10:34-37) "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. {35} For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. {36} And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. {37} He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."

Yep my foes in faith have been members of my own household..

Oh and i am not a preterist.. That should be obvious.. But since this guy does not have English as His main language he does not seem to be able to get to this conclusion from reading my posts..

well if your not a preterist why deny your brother's thoughts

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

War is coming like never before

We are running out of time to build defences against Russia, warns Norway's commander in chief
Moscow is building up its weapons stockpiles much faster than Nato allies had anticipated, creating a sense of urgency, the general said

James Rothwell, BERLIN CORRESPONDENT23 January 2024 • 7:04pm

Norway must ramp up defence spending in the face of a potential war with Russia within three years, the country’s armed forces chief has warned.
General Eirik Kristoffersen said in an interview with Dagbladet, a Norwegian newspaper, that time was running out to build up the nation’s defences in the face of an increasingly unpredictable Russia.
“The current window of opportunity will remain open for a year or two, perhaps three, which is when we will have to invest even more in our defence,” Gen Kristoffersen said in the interview, published on Sunday.
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“We do not know what will become of Russia in three years. We need to prepare a strong national defence to be able to meet an uncertain and unpredictable world,” he added.
The Norwegian general said Moscow was building up its weapons stockpiles much faster than Nato allies had anticipated, adding to the sense of urgency.

Open conflict with Russia on the eastern flank is increasingly becoming the biggest security threat facing Europe CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES EUROPE/SEAN GALLUP
Norway, a Nato member, does not currently meet the alliance’s requirement of spending two per cent of GDP per year on defence, but is aiming to reach that goal by 2026.
It is the latest in a string of warnings from Western leaders that open conflict with Russia on the eastern flank is increasingly becoming the biggest security threat facing Europe

 

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Me? I believe the man of sin revealed is Satan. —selah

Fair enough.. At lest we agree he is not good'

 

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well if your not a preterist why deny your brother's thoughts

Your thoughts are not clear because you do not express them in the English language with clarity... English is not your first language and therefore your thoughts are not expressed clearly when you use the English language..

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Your thoughts are not clear because you do not express them in the English language with clarity... English is not your first language and therefore your thoughts are not expressed clearly when you use the English language..

. English has nothing to do with it.

Where is the word preterist in the Oxford dictionary

 

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. English has nothing to do with it.

Where is the word preterist in the Oxford dictionary

Preterism : is a Christian eschatological view or belief that interprets some (partial preterism) or all (full preterism) prophecies of the Bible as events which have already been fulfilled in history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Preterism : is a Christian eschatological view or belief that interprets some (partial preterism) or all (full preterism) prophecies of the Bible as events which have already been fulfilled in history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

preterism is a word invented by the futurists

Preterists are authentic

Futurists are insane 😊

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

 

[NightTwister]

War is coming like never before

We are running out of time to build defences against Russia, warns Norway's commander in chief
Moscow is building up its weapons stockpiles much faster than Nato allies had anticipated, creating a sense of urgency, the general said

James Rothwell, BERLIN CORRESPONDENT23 January 2024 • 7:04pm

Norway must ramp up defence spending in the face of a potential war with Russia within three years, the country’s armed forces chief has warned.
General Eirik Kristoffersen said in an interview with Dagbladet, a Norwegian newspaper, that time was running out to build up the nation’s defences in the face of an increasingly unpredictable Russia.
“The current window of opportunity will remain open for a year or two, perhaps three, which is when we will have to invest even more in our defence,” Gen Kristoffersen said in the interview, published on Sunday.
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“We do not know what will become of Russia in three years. We need to prepare a strong national defence to be able to meet an uncertain and unpredictable world,” he added.
The Norwegian general said Moscow was building up its weapons stockpiles much faster than Nato allies had anticipated, adding to the sense of urgency.

Open conflict with Russia on the eastern flank is increasingly becoming the biggest security threat facing Europe CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES EUROPE/SEAN GALLUP
Norway, a Nato member, does not currently meet the alliance’s requirement of spending two per cent of GDP per year on defence, but is aiming to reach that goal by 2026.
It is the latest in a string of warnings from Western leaders that open conflict with Russia on the eastern flank is increasingly becoming the biggest security threat facing Europe

They've already used most of their old WWII stocks, and still can't fully control two Oblasts in Ukraine. Pretty soon they'll be using rocks and sticks.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

They've already used most of their old WWII stocks, and still can't fully control two Oblasts in Ukraine. Pretty soon they'll be using rocks and sticks.

I don't know but I would imagine the arms industry is booming 😂

 

[Magenta]

I don't know but I would imagine the arms industry is booming 😂

Is that an intentional pun? .

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Is that an intentional pun? .

noooo it was the booming truth 😋

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Oops sorry blooming 😬

 

[NightTwister]

I don't know but I would imagine the arms industry is booming 😂

North Korea's for one.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Latest news just in more cross border attacks today between iran and Pakistan

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Latest news just in more cross border attacks today between iran and Pakistan

Iran and Pakistan are blaming a third country ? Who may that be

 

[Jimbone]

I take it you mean another temple the same as in 70ad

That temple that was destroyed by the Romans in 70ad

Jesus said he would rebuild a new temple

But the temple he referred to was his church.

My feeling would be the man of predicaments would enter this such church or temple what ever you want to call it.

Is the temple you speak of is it a mosque.

My other question is will it just be one man in one temple that gets revealed 🤔

I was under the impression the man of predicaments is mirrored every where

I am talking about the temple jesus spoke of in Matt 24. It was not the temple in 70 Ad and it is not the church.

it means the jews will build another temple

Is that what it means? Because that's not what it says. You have to BRING the idea of the third temple to the text. What you're saying here is NOT what Jesus says at all. They ask Him about "This Temple" and He tells them not one stone will be on another before THAT generation ends. And He was EXACTLY right. Why do you want it to say something that makes Jesus a liar, ignorant, or wrong? When Jesus is telling them about the AoD and ALL those things He tells THEM that before THAT generation ALL these things will take place. I believe Him.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Is that what it means? Because that's not what it says. You have to BRING the idea of the third temple to the text. What you're saying here is NOT what Jesus says at all. They ask Him about "This Temple" and He tells them not one stone will be on another before THAT generation ends. And He was EXACTLY right. Why do you want it to say something that makes Jesus a liar, ignorant, or wrong? When Jesus is telling them about the AoD and ALL those things He tells THEM that before THAT generation ALL these things will take place. I believe Him.

Yes, he said not one stone will be left

Then he said a bunch of stuff will happen.

4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, [b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.


9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Then he said when you (those alive at the time) see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel. standing in the holy place.

vs 4 - 9 has been happening from 70 AD until today, and are still happening..

The Abomination of desolation did NOT occur in 70 AD.

so 2 reasons it has to be a third temple