Are we in the great tribulation
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When we are in the great tribulation the Bible will be illegal. They will change the words of the Bible online, and they will seize hard copies of the Bible. There is a reason that all our oldest documents of the New Testament are not complete but rather found a few pages at a time. People had to break apart the scripture and hide it from the authorities.
Those who don't know the bible will be in great trouble unable to defend themselves from the great delusion. Those that only use online Bibles will also be in great trouble.
Everyone should have a bible that they can remove the cover, and divy up into sheets to be hidden and distributed.
Those who don't know the bible will be in great trouble unable to defend themselves from the great delusion. Those that only use online Bibles will also be in great trouble.
Everyone should have a bible that they can remove the cover, and divy up into sheets to be hidden and distributed.
I would agree that may be part of the tribulation getting greater
But I wouldn't say that hasn't happened already as it has happened in many faith they consider the Christian faith illegal
And in many cults
And in many none religious faiths.
You then could say no Satan has to rule the world completely with his bible.
And that would be the only bible.
But as it stands those bibles already exist which is a huge great tribulation for billions of souls
But I wouldn't say that hasn't happened already as it has happened in many faith they consider the Christian faith illegal
And in many cults
And in many none religious faiths.
You then could say no Satan has to rule the world completely with his bible.
And that would be the only bible.
But as it stands those bibles already exist which is a huge great tribulation for billions of souls
No.
In Luke 24 it says:
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Doesn't say they go into the whole earth, or that the gospel is preached in the whole earth. This is the situation at the time of the "pre trib" rapture.
Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
In Mark it is giving you the situation for the left behind saints. Remember, young children from every nation will be taken. So you can see how the government will not be able to prevent them publishing the gospel among all nations.
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew gives the situation when Israel is saved as a nation at the end of the tribulation. By that time the angel has preached from the heavens, the 144,000 have preached and the gospel was published among all the nations. Also, Israel will have turned and said "blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord".
In Luke 24 it says:
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Doesn't say they go into the whole earth, or that the gospel is preached in the whole earth. This is the situation at the time of the "pre trib" rapture.
Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
In Mark it is giving you the situation for the left behind saints. Remember, young children from every nation will be taken. So you can see how the government will not be able to prevent them publishing the gospel among all nations.
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew gives the situation when Israel is saved as a nation at the end of the tribulation. By that time the angel has preached from the heavens, the 144,000 have preached and the gospel was published among all the nations. Also, Israel will have turned and said "blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord".
What your thought on Satan accusing Gods children day and night as the great apostasy .
And what's your views of the great apostacy starting when Jesus was taken from the earth. Because then the authority of priesthood was taken from earth.
Where since then Satan has accused God's children day and night.
And what's your views of the great apostacy starting when Jesus was taken from the earth. Because then the authority of priesthood was taken from earth.
Where since then Satan has accused God's children day and night.
Latest news just in like 15 mins ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68014882
Pakistan launches retaliatory strikes into Iran, killing nine people
Updated 20 minutes ago
Video caption,
Watch: Video shows aftermath of Pakistan strike on Iran
Pakistan has launched missile strikes into Iran, killing nine people, after Iran carried out strikes in Pakistan late on Tuesday.
Pakistan said its strikes had hit "terrorist hideouts" in Iran's south-eastern Sistan-Baluchestan province.
Iran condemned the attack, which it said killed three women, two men and four children who were not Iranian.
The country's foreign ministry later said it was committed to good neighbourly relations with Pakistan.
However, it called on Islamabad to prevent the establishment of "bases and armed terrorist groups" on its soil.
The reciprocal attacks come as tensions in the Middle East are high with several overlapping crises.
Israel is fighting the Palestinian group Hamas in Gaza and exchanging fire with Iran-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Meanwhile, Iran-backed groups in Iraq and Syria are targeting US forces, and the US and UK have struck the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, who have been attacking shipping.
Thursday's strikes by Pakistan were the first external land attack on Iran since Saddam Hussein's forces invaded in the 1980s - launching a brutal eight-year war.
Pakistan's foreign ministry said its strikes around the Iranian city of Saravan had come in light of "credible intelligence of impending large-scale terrorist activities" and added that it "fully respects" Iran's "sovereignty and territorial integrity".
In its own statement, Pakistan's army said the "precision strikes" were conducted with drones, rockets and long-range missiles and targeted the Balochistan Liberation Army and the Balochistan Liberation Front.
Both groups are part of a decades-long struggle for greater autonomy in Balochistan, a remote region in south-western Pakistan.
Pakistan had fiercely condemned Iran's strike on Tuesday, which struck an area of Pakistan's Balochistan province near the Iranian border and which Islamabad said killed two children.
The country's former foreign minister, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, told the BBC he was surprised at the attack because Iran's foreign minister met with Pakistan's acting prime minister on "the day they violated the sovereignty of our country".
He added "it would be a mistake" for a country to think Pakistan can't respond to violations, and says it sends a "clear message that Pakistan has both the will and ability to respond".
Iran insisted its strikes were aimed only at Jaish al-Adl, or "army of justice", an ethnic Baloch Sunni Muslim militant group (formerly called Jundullah) that has carried out attacks inside Iran, and not Pakistan's citizens.
Iranian state media reported on Thursday that Tehran had summoned Pakistan's chargé d'affaires over the strikes. Pakistan had earlier recalled its ambassador and blocked the Iranian envoy from returning.
China, Turkey and the Taliban government in Afghanistan have all called for restraint and dialogue.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68014882
Pakistan launches retaliatory strikes into Iran, killing nine people
- By Frances Mao, Caroline Davies and Paul Adams
- in Singapore, Islamabad and London
Updated 20 minutes ago
Video caption,
Watch: Video shows aftermath of Pakistan strike on Iran
Pakistan has launched missile strikes into Iran, killing nine people, after Iran carried out strikes in Pakistan late on Tuesday.
Pakistan said its strikes had hit "terrorist hideouts" in Iran's south-eastern Sistan-Baluchestan province.
Iran condemned the attack, which it said killed three women, two men and four children who were not Iranian.
The country's foreign ministry later said it was committed to good neighbourly relations with Pakistan.
However, it called on Islamabad to prevent the establishment of "bases and armed terrorist groups" on its soil.
The reciprocal attacks come as tensions in the Middle East are high with several overlapping crises.
Israel is fighting the Palestinian group Hamas in Gaza and exchanging fire with Iran-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Meanwhile, Iran-backed groups in Iraq and Syria are targeting US forces, and the US and UK have struck the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, who have been attacking shipping.
Thursday's strikes by Pakistan were the first external land attack on Iran since Saddam Hussein's forces invaded in the 1980s - launching a brutal eight-year war.
Pakistan's foreign ministry said its strikes around the Iranian city of Saravan had come in light of "credible intelligence of impending large-scale terrorist activities" and added that it "fully respects" Iran's "sovereignty and territorial integrity".
In its own statement, Pakistan's army said the "precision strikes" were conducted with drones, rockets and long-range missiles and targeted the Balochistan Liberation Army and the Balochistan Liberation Front.
Both groups are part of a decades-long struggle for greater autonomy in Balochistan, a remote region in south-western Pakistan.
Pakistan had fiercely condemned Iran's strike on Tuesday, which struck an area of Pakistan's Balochistan province near the Iranian border and which Islamabad said killed two children.
The country's former foreign minister, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, told the BBC he was surprised at the attack because Iran's foreign minister met with Pakistan's acting prime minister on "the day they violated the sovereignty of our country".
He added "it would be a mistake" for a country to think Pakistan can't respond to violations, and says it sends a "clear message that Pakistan has both the will and ability to respond".
Iran insisted its strikes were aimed only at Jaish al-Adl, or "army of justice", an ethnic Baloch Sunni Muslim militant group (formerly called Jundullah) that has carried out attacks inside Iran, and not Pakistan's citizens.
Iranian state media reported on Thursday that Tehran had summoned Pakistan's chargé d'affaires over the strikes. Pakistan had earlier recalled its ambassador and blocked the Iranian envoy from returning.
China, Turkey and the Taliban government in Afghanistan have all called for restraint and dialogue.
The prophecy that includes Damascus reveals that Damascus will be destroyed and will become a ruinous heap.. When that happens then yeah i will believe we are in the great tribulation.. But a few conventional bombs dropped on one or two installations is not going to make me think the great tribulation has started..
Do you have a verse on that? We have been promised tribulation in this age and there has been, and many have been martyred and tortured. So if martyrdom and torture is included in "tribulation" what has to happen for it to become "great tribulation"? Not looking for your opinion, just for your Bible reference.
Tribulation is simply a word for suffering... It's not God punishing sinners.. God punishing sinners is called Wrath.. Gods Wrath.. which ends up being tribulation that anti-christ experience.. Great tribulation is the attempted genocide of followers of The LORD Jesus.. In the end times they will identify us because we shall refuse to worship the image of the beast..
(Revelation 13:15) "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
Later after the return of the LORD Jesus these followers of God will rule the world with Jesus..
(Revelation 20:4) "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Jesus made it clear that we would face tribulation in this world..
John 16: 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
(Revelation 13:15) "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
Later after the return of the LORD Jesus these followers of God will rule the world with Jesus..
(Revelation 20:4) "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Jesus made it clear that we would face tribulation in this world..
John 16: 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
